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  nerovipus32

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5/29/13 6:20:20 AM#41
Titan is nothing but hyped up vapourware.
  lickm3

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5/29/13 6:24:57 AM#42


Originally posted by nerovipus32
Titan is nothing but hyped up vapourware.

I couldn't agree more.

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”? -Albert Einstein

  nerovipus32

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5/29/13 6:30:40 AM#43
Every time blizzard mention titan blizzard fanboi's get giddy with excitement, they have you hook line and sinker..lets reel them in slowly.
  Ayulin

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5/29/13 6:54:34 AM#44
Originally posted by MMOExposed

It's a brand new iP, not Starcraft or WoW 2. What you all don't understand about that.

the current WoW developers may be kind of stupid when it comes to game design, but that's because most of the brains were moved to Titan's development. 

And I am sure Titan's developers had some interesting ideas, in which they figured would be pretty much a niche experience if they launched it in today's society, which would doom the game. So they going back to the drawing board to revamp it for more modern day MMO gamer's appeal, which seem radically different than how it was a few years ago when project Hydra was first announced.

the brains at Blizzard know they need more modern day trends or fail like many recent MMOs have like SWTOR for example.

also it may had originally been designed for P2P which they know is a dying market in the next year or so. So they redesign from the ground up to be Sub Free.

I love it how the F2P fans will never miss an opportunity to slip these "predictions" into their posts, even when it's completely superfluous. "They may have decided to re-design the game around a F2P model" would be sufficient. The rest of it is just wishful soothsaying.

Folks, don't you think it's time to stop beating that horse? You've been kicking it for about 3 years now, probably longer. It's like a broken record at this point. "P2P will be dead within the year". A year later.. "P2P will be dead within a year!". A year later, "P2P will be dead within a year!". And on and on. Yet, P2P is still here. MMOs are still launching with and surviving on the revenue model. And no, it's not "just WoW". There are several out now, with more still coming down the line.

Is it a case of "Maybe if we just keep saying it enough, we'll convince everyone and it'll happen"? Who knows.

It won't. A large number of people (still about 50% of MMO players) prefer a straight up monthly sub, to the nickel-and-dime "try to monetize them every moment they're logged in" approach of Cash Shops. Subs are still viable. They're still relevant. They're not going anywhere.

Also, something to keep in mind is how all but 2 Subscription MMOs (that I'm aware of) that have changed their revenue model have actually kept subscriptions as an option. Why? Because there's a lot of people who still prefer a straight-up subscription. Subs generate a far more consistent monthly income than cash shop purchases alone ever could, and the developers are well aware of that.

Many F2P fans love to tell P2P supporters that they need to learn to adapt and deal with subscriptions going away. I think it's the other way around. F2P fans need to learn to adapt and adjust to the fact that they aren't.

Industry experts have come right out and said that F2P does not work for every MMO. Some are best suited to F2P. Some are best suited to B2P. Some are best suited to P2P. Some are best suited to a hybrid setup. A developer will pick the one that works best for their game.

F2P is popular among gamers because the idea of playing a game for free fits perfectly with the entitled mentality of "I shouldn't have to pay for anything" that's so prevalent today. It's the uTorrent generation.

F2P is popular among developers now because they've seen how, by exploiting the predictability and malleability of human behavior, they can lift the ceiling off their monthly revenue and earn a lot more. The expense this comes at, is that it requires them to now design a game built around the fact that they need people to be spending money for it to work. This is why so many F2P MMOs inevitably start selling more and more game-affecting items. Because "just selling fluff" doesn't reliably bring in enough $$$.

 

  User Deleted
5/29/13 7:02:03 AM#45
Well there goes my theory that a reveal would be coming soon.
  Doogiehowser

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5/29/13 7:05:38 AM#46
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG
Originally posted by MMOExposed

It's a brand new iP, not Starcraft or WoW 2. What you all don't understand about that.

It WAS going to be a brand new IP, but article now says they are RESETING

 

Should probably read the article before you come down on commenters.

Resetting does not mean they are making a WOW 2.

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  Jockan

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5/29/13 7:06:57 AM#47
Originally posted by lickm3

 


Originally posted by nerovipus32
Titan is nothing but hyped up vapourware.

 

I couldn't agree more.

 

 

True, they never were working on anything.


  Doogiehowser

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5/29/13 7:08:16 AM#48
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Titan is nothing but hyped up vapourware.

Blizzard and vapourware? sorry those two do not mix. People throw around this word way too casually around here whenever a MMO is delayed.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
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  Quirhid

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5/29/13 7:12:37 AM#49
They're trolling, doogie.

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  zymurgeist

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5/29/13 7:15:37 AM#50
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by lickm3

 


Originally posted by nerovipus32
Titan is nothing but hyped up vapourware.

 

I couldn't agree more.

 

 

True, they never were working on anything.

So the put an huge design team with some of Blizzards well known developers on a project that doesn't exist?

Riiiiight. If you're going to troll you need credible bait.

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  Doogiehowser

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5/29/13 7:16:21 AM#51
Originally posted by Quirhid
They're trolling, doogie.

Yeah i realize that now... 

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
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  Anireth

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5/29/13 7:22:46 AM#52
I don't understand how "2016 release at the earliest" is news. Did anyone really expect it earlier? WoW is still going, Diablo III just released, no expansion yet, Starcraft II just did got it's first expansion, one to come in 2014/2015..why would they release it in 2016? It took 12 years for a new Diablo, and 12 years for a new SC..if they'd release Titan in 2016, what would they do until 2025?

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  ElRenmazuo

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5/29/13 7:27:09 AM#53

"We've come to a point where we need to make some large design and technology changes to the game"

Sounds like to me they are redesigning the game to be cross-platform for PC/PS4 since they announced at PS4 reveal press conference they are supporting it now and how they redesigned Diablo 3 for PS3 and PS4. Just speculation of course...

  lickm3

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5/29/13 7:32:29 AM#54


Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by lickm3  

Originally posted by nerovipus32 Titan is nothing but hyped up vapourware.
  I couldn't agree more.
    True, they never were working on anything.
So the put an huge design team with some of Blizzards well known developers a project that doesn't exist?

Riiiiight. If you're going to troll you need credible bait.



This Blizzard company can keep their secrets really secure without any single screen or alpha test info within 5 years when they first time mentioned about their "titan" project. They are like UFO. Nobody have seen them, but all believe they exists. Well done I can tell you!

edit: can you please name a few "well known developers" workin' on that project?

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  zymurgeist

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5/29/13 7:36:03 AM#55
Originally posted by lickm3

 


Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by lickm3  

Originally posted by nerovipus32 Titan is nothing but hyped up vapourware.
  I couldn't agree more.
    True, they never were working on anything.
So the put an huge design team with some of Blizzards well known developers a project that doesn't exist?

 

Riiiiight. If you're going to troll you need credible bait.


 


This Blizzard company can keep their secrets really secure without any single screen or alpha test info within 5 years when they first time mentioned about their "titan" project. They are like UFO. Nobody have seen them, but all belive they exists. Well done I can tell you!

Anyone who believes more than one person can keep a secret is an alien from another planet. Don't tell the MiB you heard that from me.

 

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  Yukmarc

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5/29/13 7:44:10 AM#56
I think, once again, SOE and Blizzard are waiting to see what each other does in regards to both of their MMO's... just like WOW and EQ2. You guys remember how EQ2 and WOW had the exact same release date until SOE surprised everybody at the last minute and released a week earlier? I think this is the same kind of game they are playing with each other.. let's see what the other does first.
  mari3k

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5/29/13 7:51:34 AM#57

So what we learn from this ?

Cancel your Wow account , so Blizz is forced to work faster on titan !

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  DMKano

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5/29/13 8:03:04 AM#58
Originally posted by duggyfr3sh123

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/28/blizzards-titan-mmo-delayed-reset?abthid=51a53c74fda91d400200001e

 

apparently the game is being rebooted(was probably WoW 2.0) and they have assigned 70% of the team to other games while it gets reworked.

Project Titan was not WoW 2, it was 100% new IP, the game mixed fantasy, sci-fi, contemporary, magic, and was very ambitious, it apparently lacked cohesion and it felt like several different games combined. The game was not going to be in direct competition with WoW.

Also some portions of the game were allegedly designed for x-platform play including tablets and next gen consoles, I am not sure how far they got along on x-platform stuff as the base game is for PCs.

I will try to find out more info on the reboot, its too early in CA right now.

 

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

5/29/13 9:37:31 AM#59
Originally posted by MaNiaGG
 

how can you delay something that had no eta anyways? ;)

Lol, yeah.

  kizan0601

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5/29/13 10:39:02 AM#60
Have not read the whole thread so if this has already been said sorry....but I know the reason why Titan was delayed to 2016........are you ready for it......drum roll please.......its because they took Jay Wilson off D3 and put him on Titan and his ability to destroy games went with him there!
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