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  Datastar

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5/28/13 3:18:18 PM#21
glad they decided to put in real first person combat when they first announced it was going to be no weapons or animations in first person mode I was instantly not interested seems like they realized it was good to have and im interested again.
  ShakyMo

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5/28/13 3:39:44 PM#22
Tkreep

Ask anyone who played war about the likes of hickman, barnet and the other people left after the ea take over took root.

Hickman was a community moderator on daoc. Ea came in, he ended up being put in charge of war, then later they put him in charge of swtor. The guys never programmed, designedor produced game art in his life but somehow ended up a project lead.

For more info check out the ealouse stuff.
  ShakyMo

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5/28/13 3:43:54 PM#23
^ sorry meant savage

As for "beating on other mmos you don't like"

I've actually played swtor, I found it very poor.

Have you actually played TESO? How can you form an opinion on something not even released. It maybe good, it may suck, no one knows, personally I think it will be slightly above average with an over reliance on instancing.
  Iselin

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5/28/13 4:03:38 PM#24

In-game graphics keep looking better and better with each new video we see.

Looking good.

  BeansnBread

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5/28/13 4:06:36 PM#25
Honestly? I think it would have been badass if the whole game was forced 1st person for everyone instead of a sort of novelty feature. I might roll with it while questing just for a little different experience. It's nice that it's there.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  nerovipus32

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5/28/13 4:56:03 PM#26
Gamers are so fickle i can't stand any of you.
  SavageHorizon

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5/28/13 5:09:50 PM#27
Originally posted by ShakyMo
^ sorry meant savage

As for "beating on other mmos you don't like"

I've actually played swtor, I found it very poor.

Have you actually played TESO? How can you form an opinion on something not even released. It maybe good, it may suck, no one knows, personally I think it will be slightly above average with an over reliance on instancing.

Just like you can form an opinion on it, not once have i said it will suck. I'm saying that what we have seen so far and that's hardly anything, it doesn't look impressive at all.

Slightly above average is not what ZeniMax are hoping for there game, if slightly above average make you happy then it's a pretty poor show on your part.

If slightly above average is what the mmo community are satisfied with then their is no hope for mmo's, seriously your attitude and acceptance of slightly above average mmo's is what's killing mmo's.

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  Hellidol

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5/28/13 5:44:50 PM#28
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by ShakyMo
^ sorry meant savage

As for "beating on other mmos you don't like"

I've actually played swtor, I found it very poor.

Have you actually played TESO? How can you form an opinion on something not even released. It maybe good, it may suck, no one knows, personally I think it will be slightly above average with an over reliance on instancing.

Just like you can form an opinion on it, not once have i said it will suck. I'm saying that what we have seen so far and that's hardly anything, it doesn't look impressive at all.

Slightly above average is not what ZeniMax are hoping for there game, if slightly above average make you happy then it's a pretty poor show on your part.

If slightly above average is what the mmo community are satisfied with then their is no hope for mmo's, seriously your attitude and acceptance of slightly above average mmo's is what's killing mmo's.

What you feel is average and what is top notch might be very different from others. I like graphics but it should not make that game it should be a result of today's technology. To me way below average gaming for a MMO is WoW, I believe it is way water down and dumb down and a insult to real gamers but that is IMO not necessarily yours. I feel Swtor is a horrible game but others say its the best game they have ever played.

People can assume ZeniMax is aiming for this or that but we dont really know until more data is out or we can talk about it on the forums from our own playing experience.

One of my fears is it will turn into a FPSMMO with no one playing Melee because you will die before you can even reach anyone. There are steps they can do to prevent that my hopes is they will.

 

  ShakyMo

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5/28/13 5:45:09 PM#29
I disagree, its your attitude that's killing them. What's pitching and moaning about stuff at this late stage going to achieve. At best they ignore it, at worst they start banging in some hastily rushed half finished features to shut people up.
  Hellidol

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5/28/13 5:56:03 PM#30
Originally posted by ShakyMo
I disagree, its your attitude that's killing them. What's pitching and moaning about stuff at this late stage going to achieve. At best they ignore it, at worst they start banging in some hastily rushed half finished features to shut people up.

I understand what you are saying but I hope to god they dont take those tactics when dealing with the public, "give them what they want so they will shut up" will kill any MMO look at SWG.

  Nikopol

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5/28/13 6:19:05 PM#31

The video looks really good and I'm looking forward to this game. The thing I'll probably miss most is open world PVP, because it actually makes the open world PVE experience exciting (you know, surprise factor and all that)... but, oh well, I'll take what the game has as long as it's good.

I'm digging the visuals and the crafting & fishing vid gave me further hope regarding the feeling of a TES world - which would be the primary thing I'd look for in a TES MMO.

As for comparisons to SWTOR, I'm not seeing it other than the fact that both are based on huge IPs. But the thing is, Star Wars is not a gaming IP, so if you're going to compare TESO with any MMO, it should be World of Warcraft, which was a gaming IP to begin with.

I don't dislike SWTOR, but TESO will probably be a noticeably more successful game. I'm thinking it's going to be big (not WOW-big, but big) unless they totally screw it up in tech, polish and service quality.

  Distopia

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5/28/13 6:25:32 PM#32
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Yeah and they have a whole bunch of other people that worked on daoc, uo, coh, swg, and numerous other mmos.

As for the swtor team, well yeah they had a few people from war, mostly the people who suited the ea regime like Jeff hickman and gabe amangetello. e.g. drones not creatives.

Actually TOR had quite a few SWG/SOE devs. Dallas Dickinson and Gordon Walton are a couple examples.

(on topic) The first person gameplay looked great in that video.

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  Iselin

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5/28/13 7:19:35 PM#33
Originally posted by Nikopol

The video looks really good and I'm looking forward to this game. The thing I'll probably miss most is open world PVP, because it actually makes the open world PVE experience exciting (you know, surprise factor and all that)... but, oh well, I'll take what the game has as long as it's good.

 

You may or may not know that after you reach level 10, you can do all of your leveling in Cyrodiil, the PvP zone that also has PvE content. Mind you, everyone is either bolstered to 50 or is 50 there. So it's not quite like regular open world PvP... the gankers will also get to experience the "surprise factor" when the gankee hands their ass to them.

Cyrodiil is also supposed to be the largest zone of all...as in really, really large.

Will that do?

  ShakyMo

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5/28/13 7:24:51 PM#34
Nikopol

You make a good point.
Based on gaming ips - uo, wow, ff & upcoming TESO, elite 4, eq3 and star citizen

Based on non gaming ips - swtor, Aoc, war, lotro

Could ccps world of darkness be the one to break the cycle
  LordSneerg

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5/28/13 7:30:25 PM#35
Really looking forward to this game. I just hope it comes out before AA.  I am truly excited about the possibilities of my character in this game. I really hope this game succeeds. 
  Nikopol

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5/28/13 8:02:35 PM#36
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Nikopol

The video looks really good and I'm looking forward to this game. The thing I'll probably miss most is open world PVP, because it actually makes the open world PVE experience exciting (you know, surprise factor and all that)... but, oh well, I'll take what the game has as long as it's good.

 

You may or may not know that after you reach level 10, you can do all of your leveling in Cyrodiil, the PvP zone that also has PvE content. Mind you, everyone is either bolstered to 50 or is 50 there. So it's not quite like regular open world PvP... the gankers will also get to experience the "surprise factor" when the gankee hands their ass to them.

Cyrodiil is also supposed to be the largest zone of all...as in really, really large.

Will that do?

 

Yeah, that's certainly better than nothing. Usually I'm not that much into PVP myself, I don't go out of my way to seek it, I just like that added sense of danger when I'm questing, farming, fishing, etc. And getting ganked is no big deal to me, I just tend to laugh it off. Though if you can get some additional lowbies to take the high level ganker down, that certainly feels good. :)

But, anyway, having huge big contested zone with some PVE as well is definitely good. So here's hoping Cyrodiil will be enough of an interesting zone to warrant hanging out there for a really really long time. :)

  kDeviL

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5/28/13 8:22:55 PM#37
Wow that looks quite a bit better than the leaked footage did ^^  I'm excited.

If WoW was released today even in its' entirety it would be f2p in 3 months.
Why is it still such a big deal?

  GwapoJosh

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5/28/13 9:08:12 PM#38
Originally posted by Datastar
glad they decided to put in real first person combat when they first announced it was going to be no weapons or animations in first person mode I was instantly not interested seems like they realized it was good to have and im interested again.

That's exactly how I felt.. Now I'm excited again!  Hopefully the fp view doesn't feel tacked on.  If it ends up being a viable option for all pve content, my hype will stay up.

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  hMJem

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5/29/13 12:16:32 AM#39

This quote stood out to me in another article today.

 

"Interestingly, Matt Firor told us that even the build we were playing is considered “old” within Zenimax itself. The build developers are playing is about two generations ahead of what the public has and will see throughout the summer."

 

So.. They're two versions ahead of what everyone is playing and will be playing in summer.. Does that mean maybe we *gasp* are on pace for a 2013 release? So the closed beta version is two versions behind what Zenimax is playing. So its not like the closed beta version is their latest version of the game.

  Deivos

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5/29/13 2:50:34 AM#40

Well the dev version usually is ahead of the release version due to internal testing and quality control. The only time that gap would be lost in any regard is when they have to implement a hotfix for something, and that's not necessarily catching up as much as just filling in holes.

 

So I'd hope that their dev version is ahead of their beta version, otherwise it'd mean they're making no progress. :p

 

Same really on it being ahead of their media versions. It'd probably be a bad move to showcase content in a half built state unless you're passing it off as a tech demo.

 

That being said, the fact they are maintaining progress on their builds is a good thing and the visible steps up in what's shown in each video is nice to see.

 

Honestly most my gripes exist in the realm of 'I would do it differently' so they aren't exactly something I can consider having merit past personal taste, and I don't personally think they particularly borked the lore at all, as strange solutions seems a normal approach with Daedra, so the only real task is to see what the end result is and have a romp.

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