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News & Features Discussion  » [Preview] Elder Scrolls Online: The Look & Feel of Daggerfall

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5/28/13 1:11:49 PM#61
I have literally NO interest in this. I am reading this article only because there is nothing on tv(lol!).

Anyhow, I have a feeling that this won't end up nice:

-Faction lock(why the waffle couldn't I have an Argonian Redoran? Me personally would never do such a blunder vs Redorans, but I wouldn't want to take that freedom from the others)
-only four crafting disciplines(I have a BAD feeling about this)
-PvE and PvP players on the same server. This can only end up with one of those outright giving up(unless it's Battlegrounds PvP which in and of itself sucks)
-Shoehorning a singleplayer IP into a MMO. Just no.
-To quote massively: "It in no shape or form resembles an MMO". Then what the waffle does it resemble? A racing game lol? I have a feeling we'll get TES lite.
-bugs and glitches galore: Bethesda's specialty.
-action combat. Yet another boring spam fest.
-no thieves guild(come on! It's a staple of TES games)
-no mods(the staple of TES games)

I'll end this with the following words:

Why does everything need to be made into an MMO? WHY??? Even the stuff that would be 1000x better in single/coop player. Man that is sad.

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5/28/13 1:13:42 PM#62
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by Vlacke

The more i read about this game the less i want to actually play it simply because the game reeks of a lot things which are miles apart from what an Elder Scrolls game should be in my opinion.

That's because it's not an ES game, it's an ES MMO.

You people will complain about anything...


Well this is massively E3 preview.


"Here's the part that intrigued me: At no point did the gameplay experience resemble an MMO"


That sounds familiar, SWTOR anyone?


If you don't like other peoples opinions then you are on the wrong forum 


I thought this quote was also very telling

"Questing comes easily as NPCs toting optional quests have a very obvious yellow aura surrounding them"



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5/28/13 1:17:25 PM#63
Originally posted by Gorwe

-To quote massively: "It in no shape or form resembles an MMO". Then what the waffle does it resemble? A racing game lol? I have a feeling we'll get TES lite.

Apparently some people have missed this part.

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5/28/13 1:27:01 PM#64
I love these forums, every self titled know it all posts proclaiming they are right, the sky is falling,doom and gloom.

Gonada Dahung,over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting....Please Lord, let someone make a game that had all the awesomeness of UO, EQ and EVE...


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5/28/13 1:33:01 PM#65

Not being able to see the other factions is a monster FAIL for me. That is a ridiculous point of game design that definitely should e reconsidered! Big fa of Oblivion and Skyrim here, but thus far ESO is looking more tedious than exciting.  I do like the graphical look though, and some of the game systems sound fun.


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5/28/13 1:42:45 PM#66
How exactly is that so massively game breaking? I really don't get it.

It's not like they are saying "we won't have dungeons" or something.

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5/28/13 1:43:30 PM#67




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5/28/13 1:46:42 PM#68
Actually you hit bullseye with your description. While I cannot be 100% sure about the overall feel while I watched leaked video I had exactly same sense. Daggerfall. Not any other game of series, I played them all although finished only 'Arena' and 'Daggerfall'. Definitely. I hope they keep it.

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5/28/13 2:17:40 PM#69
Originally posted by GamersHeroes

"Even with only an hour of Skyrim under my belt, the city of Daggerfall felt familiar."

What? Skyrim and Daggerfall are entirely different regions of Tamriel and Daggerfall doesn't even feature in Skyrim...


Lame comment,because this is what she wrote :

"The looks and colors of Daggerfall and the way that characters and NPCs look is very much Elder Scrolls. There is no bright color palette here except in places where it fits in one sense or another. Lots of browns, blacks, tans and darker, muted colors abound and it’s all fitting somehow. Even with only an hour of Skyrim under my belt, the city of Daggerfall felt familiar."

It is obvious that she is writing about how the gameworld has a similar style as Skyrim. Nowhere is she claiming that the city Daggerfall is in Skyrim.


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5/28/13 2:21:17 PM#70
Originally posted by killahh
I love these forums, every self titled know it all posts proclaiming they are right, the sky is falling,doom and gloom.


So far I see nothing that stands out yet. TES lore or not, if they use the same old MMO themeparky mold again, I highly doubt it will be succesful.


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5/28/13 2:29:14 PM#71
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by DavisFlight

An MMO that instances, phases, and scripts everything to make you feel heroic? That worked SO WELL for SWTOR!


Except I would argue that it worked just fine for those that were clear that they were getting a bioware game. SWToR's issues stem from other reasons.

Not to say that I am in full support of ESO. I'm not.

I think they blundered and I think they are going to pay for it.

The SWTOR issue stems from the same thing that killed TSW. Linear instanced storyline based games trying to emulate singleplayer games, DO NOT MAKE GOOD MMOS.

I would say that the storyline was enjoyable for those who were on board with the story (aka - a bioware experience)  The issue is not the inclusion of story. The issue was the lack of "mmo features" and lack of any sort of end game (since it is a themepark).

Take away the bioware story and there really wasn't much there.


Playing the game like a singleplayer game was bearable. Probably the only bearable way to play it. Sadly, it was priced, with a monthly fee, and marketed as an MMO. THat and the singleplayer experience was sub par for numerous reasons. One of Bioware's worst. And after you do anything in the story, it makes no impact on the world, because its all instanced. It counts for nothing.


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5/28/13 2:32:47 PM#72
Originally posted by Denambren



No, WAR actually had servers so its PvP was actually good.


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5/28/13 2:33:33 PM#73
"I have to admit something horrible for those who dearly love Elder Scrolls"

I salute you, Suzie. Anyone who dearly loves The Elder Scrolls, does not dearly love Skyrim. They dearly love Morrowind.


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5/28/13 2:34:25 PM#74
Hmm, good is taking it a bit far, slightly above average (with no competition) would be more accurate


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5/28/13 2:44:43 PM#75

"Another TOR"

That would imply the only redeeming quality in the game would be story based questing. Considering their focus on end-game PVP.  I don't see it.

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5/28/13 2:44:45 PM#76
I just hope that when I run into a forest I run into a forest.... not a tunnel. that sort of thing totally ruins these new age mmos for me.

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5/28/13 3:10:34 PM#77
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SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!


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5/28/13 3:18:26 PM#78
Originally posted by Distopia

"Another TOR"

That would imply the only redeeming quality in the game would be story based questing. Considering their focus on end-game PVP.  I don't see it.

Considering they're making tons of mistakes with end game PvP design, like not having individual servers, and allowing you to go to other realms.. I don't have faith it'll be a redeeming quality.


And the quests in SWTOR were awful compared to singleplayer game quests.


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5/28/13 3:18:50 PM#79
Originally posted by asrlohz
"I have to admit something horrible for those who dearly love Elder Scrolls"

I salute you, Suzie. Anyone who dearly loves The Elder Scrolls, does not dearly love Skyrim. They dearly love Morrowind.

I would say that Morrowind was the better game though I am still actively playing skyrim. I've also recently loaded up Morroblvion and Morrowind.

However, here is an interesting rebuttal to the "dumbing down" video that many of us might have seen.

He makes some very good arguments.


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5/28/13 3:39:11 PM#80
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
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If it's true to the series then there will be a loading screen. Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall.. all have loading screens.

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