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  DavisFlight

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5/28/13 12:00:21 PM#41

An MMO that instances, phases, and scripts everything to make you feel heroic? That worked SO WELL for SWTOR!

And "socially enabled"? Jesus. I thought all MMOs were supposed to be social. That's kind of the whole point. Poor Matt, lost control of this one and is now a slave to instances, which is what he wanted to avoid.

  Sovrath

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5/28/13 12:02:43 PM#42
Originally posted by DavisFlight

An MMO that instances, phases, and scripts everything to make you feel heroic? That worked SO WELL for SWTOR!

 

Except I would argue that it worked just fine for those that were clear that they were getting a bioware game. SWToR's issues stem from other reasons.

Not to say that I am in full support of ESO. I'm not.

I think they blundered and I think they are going to pay for it.

  SavageHorizon

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5/28/13 12:09:35 PM#43
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Do some of you guys even play MMORPG´s, being so negative..

 

 

Don't tell us you are going to give this game the same over the top support you gave GW2.

 

Just the other day you were complaining about the game you claimed was the best a few months ago.

 

Being skeptical because of lack of info and out right negative are not the same thing.

 
 
 

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  SavageHorizon

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5/28/13 12:14:00 PM#44
Originally posted by SBFord
Originally posted by GamersHeroes

"Even with only an hour of Skyrim under my belt, the city of Daggerfall felt familiar."

What? Skyrim and Daggerfall are entirely different regions of Tamriel and Daggerfall doesn't even feature in Skyrim...

 

Familiar with an overall 'feel' to the aesthetics of the game. :P

 

 

Can you answer my question please, i have already ask you?

 

Do the doors open like in Vanguard and i can just step through without loading or is it the same as Age Of Conan where every building i enter uses a loading screen?

 

You must know this because you mentioned entering houses.

 

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  DavisFlight

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5/28/13 12:18:47 PM#45
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by DavisFlight

An MMO that instances, phases, and scripts everything to make you feel heroic? That worked SO WELL for SWTOR!

 

Except I would argue that it worked just fine for those that were clear that they were getting a bioware game. SWToR's issues stem from other reasons.

Not to say that I am in full support of ESO. I'm not.

I think they blundered and I think they are going to pay for it.

The SWTOR issue stems from the same thing that killed TSW. Linear instanced storyline based games trying to emulate singleplayer games, DO NOT MAKE GOOD MMOS.

  Bladestrom

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5/28/13 12:20:11 PM#46
You know if a new music album was comming out soon, you wouldn't be 'skeptical' about it, you would either fancy it and eagerly wait for it, or simply wait and look it up when it comes out. Being so pointlessly negative in a meaningless forum about a game you have not played is rather weird, it's a bit like standing in a queue to see a film and moaning out aloud for everyone to hear that 'this film is crap I'm not going to enjoy it'

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  Hahhns

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5/28/13 12:29:16 PM#47
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by SBFord
Originally posted by GamersHeroes

"Even with only an hour of Skyrim under my belt, the city of Daggerfall felt familiar."

What? Skyrim and Daggerfall are entirely different regions of Tamriel and Daggerfall doesn't even feature in Skyrim...

 

Familiar with an overall 'feel' to the aesthetics of the game. :P

 

 

Can you answer my question please, i have already ask you?

 

Do the doors open like in Vanguard and i can just step through without loading or is it the same as Age Of Conan where every building i enter uses a loading screen?

 

You must know this because you mentioned entering houses.

 

If he played for an hour he didn't get to daggerfall....It is both BTW, that is your answer.

 

 

  karat76

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5/28/13 12:32:06 PM#48
Still looking forward to it. I can get the pvp fix in the area provided. Open world pvp does not really work as it just an excuse to gang rape newbies. I don't expect it to have everything I like but it should last me longer than ToR did.
  SavageHorizon

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5/28/13 12:35:27 PM#49
Originally posted by kiersteadmo
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by SBFord
Originally posted by GamersHeroes

"Even with only an hour of Skyrim under my belt, the city of Daggerfall felt familiar."

What? Skyrim and Daggerfall are entirely different regions of Tamriel and Daggerfall doesn't even feature in Skyrim...

 

Familiar with an overall 'feel' to the aesthetics of the game. :P

 

 

Can you answer my question please, i have already ask you?

 

Do the doors open like in Vanguard and i can just step through without loading or is it the same as Age Of Conan where every building i enter uses a loading screen?

 

You must know this because you mentioned entering houses.

 

If he played for an hour he didn't get to daggerfall....It is both BTW, that is your answer.

 

 

What are you talking about lol, after character creation he was spirited to Daggerfall?

And how do you know it's both, link the source please.

Did you actually read the write up?

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  Razeekster

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5/28/13 12:39:42 PM#50
Originally posted by Punk999

SWTOR =/ ESO

Sorry ESO is a RVR game not a pure story game. As long as they do that part right the game will be fine.

Also last i checked SWTOR is doing fine compared to most get over it.

Sorry but this gave me a good chuckle. SWTOR doing fine compared to most? That is probably the most false statement I've read so far today.

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  Hahhns

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5/28/13 12:41:30 PM#51
I read it but i was replying to another person at the same time :)
  Sovrath

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5/28/13 12:44:18 PM#52
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by DavisFlight

An MMO that instances, phases, and scripts everything to make you feel heroic? That worked SO WELL for SWTOR!

 

Except I would argue that it worked just fine for those that were clear that they were getting a bioware game. SWToR's issues stem from other reasons.

Not to say that I am in full support of ESO. I'm not.

I think they blundered and I think they are going to pay for it.

The SWTOR issue stems from the same thing that killed TSW. Linear instanced storyline based games trying to emulate singleplayer games, DO NOT MAKE GOOD MMOS.

I would say that the storyline was enjoyable for those who were on board with the story (aka - a bioware experience)  The issue is not the inclusion of story. The issue was the lack of "mmo features" and lack of any sort of end game (since it is a themepark).

Take away the bioware story and there really wasn't much there.

 

  SavageHorizon

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5/28/13 12:49:18 PM#53
Originally posted by Punk999

SWTOR =/ ESO

Sorry ESO is a RVR game not a pure story game. As long as they do that part right the game will be fine.

Also last i checked SWTOR is doing fine compared to most get over it.

Last time i checked TESO is more PVE than AvA, perhaps you need to do your research before making claims about a game you obviously don't know anything about.

Three whole faction areas to PVE and on top of that Cyrodiil is also PVE/PVP

Adventure zones= PVE

Story mode that is also PVE

You really think that this game is a RVR game lol.

DarkFall is a PVP game

Age Of Wushu is a PVP game

Mortal Online is a PVP game.

ArcheAge has more PVP than TESO.

Please go and do your research before telling others to get over it lol.

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  SirBalin

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5/28/13 12:52:51 PM#54
Originally posted by Vlacke

The more i read about this game the less i want to actually play it simply because the game reeks of a lot things which are miles apart from what an Elder Scrolls game should be in my opinion.

Heavy focus on PvP, locked factions (you will apparently be able to quest in other faction regions but will not see said faction players on screen....who the hell thought that was a good idea to begin with?) and similar things just don't cut it for the majority of ES series fans which is a shame indeed, they could have hit the jackpot with this IP in a MMO surrounding.

I'm a hardcore pvper and that's what I want, however I think they are messing up as they are trying to cater to pvpers and pvers on the same server.  So neither will be happy.  Make two shards, a hardcore full owpvp server where the npcs can attack you based on your actions, then another one that caters to the pvers.  Mixing the two on one server could be a major problem with this game.

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  howtoland

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5/28/13 12:52:55 PM#55
Originally posted by BillMurphy

During a recent E3 preview event, we managed to spend tons of times in and around the Elder Scrolls Online location of Daggerfall, a place familiar to fans of the series. Find out what we discovered during our hands on time before heading to the comments to continue the discussion.

Daggerfall is socially enabled and is designed to be a gathering spot for players. There are crafting locations, dungeons, side quests and exploration to be had within the city walls itself, not to mention outside. Exploration is key. One interesting tidbit we were told is that there are Skyrim-like achievements for finding and reading all the books in a given location and much more. It’s definitely worth the taking the time to sniff around if that’s your thing.

Read more of Suzie Ford's Elder Scrolls Online: The Look & Feel of Daggerfall.

Why in the name of shit would you have someone who doesn't like the Elder Scrolls preview an Elder Scrolls MMO?

 

This is like sending someone who hates cars to a car show and then having them write an article about it.

 

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  keithian

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5/28/13 12:58:50 PM#56
Thanks for the impression. [mod edit]

I for one love that the game seems to be a lot more interactive compared to other recently released MMOs and I like the fact that they aren't heavily going with cutscenes. I also like that the character customization seems to be very detailed from what I read. I also like the fact that the difficulty seems a little harder and that quests feel like quests. All good signs to me.

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  howtoland

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5/28/13 1:02:09 PM#57
Originally posted by keithian
Thanks for the impression. [mod edit]

I for one love that the game seems to be a lot more interactive compared to other recently released MMOs and I like the fact that they aren't heavily going with cutscenes. I also like that the character customization seems to be very detailed from what I read. I also like the fact that the difficulty seems a little harder and that quests feel like quests. All good signs to me.

I agree. The positives in the article all sound great.

 

What bothers me is they sent someone who isn't an Elder Scrolls fan to preview this, when the people who are mostly worried about the game are Elder Scrolls fans.

  ShakyMo

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5/28/13 1:06:43 PM#58
My favourite is "skyrim doesn't have pvp so TESO shouldn't"

Of course it doesn't IT'S A SINGLE PLAYER GAME [mod edit]

Using the same logic, TESO should also not have group dungeons, chat channels, auction houses, player guilds and raids because those aren't in skyrim either BECAUSE IT'S A SINGLE PLAYER GAME.
  SavageHorizon

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5/28/13 1:09:33 PM#59
Originally posted by keithian
Thanks for the impression. [mod edit]

I for one love that the game seems to be a lot more interactive compared to other recently released MMOs and I like the fact that they aren't heavily going with cutscenes. I also like that the character customization seems to be very detailed from what I read. I also like the fact that the difficulty seems a little harder and that quests feel like quests. All good signs to me.

Difficulty harder than what mmo?

Quest feel like quests compared to what mmo?

A lot more interactive compared to what mmo?

But it still has cut scenes lol.

You do know that GW2 and SWTOR are not the only mmo's released over the last two years, right?

If these are the things that make you put your cash on the table then the mmo community have no hope.

I not putting the game down but these things are hardly claims to fame

It's the same dribble we heard about swtor, these very same people gave swtor glowing reviews, right?

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5/28/13 1:10:28 PM#60
Originally posted by Gravarg
Originally posted by furbans
Originally posted by Gravarg

I'll never understand how people say TES games are heavy PvP games...last time I checked in Skyrim there was ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO, zero incase you didn't catch it, PvP...So if TES games are supposed to be PvP heavy, then Skyrim wasn't a TES game either...In fact, I personally think of all the TES games as PvE games.  The sooner people figure that out, the better off we'll all be.

 

I'm still on the fence, as with any game I haven't played myself, but I look forward to trying it out and making my own opinion.  There's only one opinion that matters to me, and that's mine :)

 

Maybe because Skyrim is a... wait for it... SINGLE PLAYER GAME.

I'm not much of a lore fanatic but ESO is a prime world for a major PvP MMO since the races/factions are always at odds with one another it seems like in the books you pick up throughout the game.

I can see how the factions and putting people on different factions lends itself to a PvP MMO, but no TES game has ever been about PvP ever.  So to say, this game has to have the best PvP ever or it's fail is simply not true.

 

The Elder Scrolls: Arena - No PvP

Daggerfall - No PvP

Morrowind - No PvP

Oblivion - No PvP

Skyrim - No PvP

Elder Scrolls Online - Has to have the best PvP or it's epic fail...

 

That makes no sense lol.

That's because no elder scrolls game has been online before, so get over it!!! The game can't be the same as the single player games because in a single player game you play on your own. imagine if skyrim was online the game would be a complete mess. Every npc would have  buckets on their heads.

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