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  tank017

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5/26/13 8:27:45 PM#61
Originally posted by smokedogg311
While i doubt FFXIV: ARR reaches the 12mil mark, its already a fantastic game and im sure it will sell very well. To those same bitter people that played it before how many times have you got a bad burger then went back to eat there a week later? You'll get over it or miss out.

I wasnt one of those people..

 

but a burger doesnt cost $60 -$80,depending on the version you bought.

 

Besides,if the burger is bad,I send it back for a new one.

  ElRenmazuo

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5/26/13 8:38:48 PM#62
Originally posted by tank017
Originally posted by smokedogg311
While i doubt FFXIV: ARR reaches the 12mil mark, its already a fantastic game and im sure it will sell very well. To those same bitter people that played it before how many times have you got a bad burger then went back to eat there a week later? You'll get over it or miss out.

I wasnt one of those people..

 

but a burger doesnt cost $60 -$80,depending on the version you bought.

 

Besides,if the burger is bad,I send it back for a new one.

Thats exactly what square is doing...they took back the bad burger fired the guy who made it and hired another guy to make a better burger for the customer and they dont have to repay for it.

  Maquiame

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5/26/13 8:43:05 PM#63

I'm in beta and love the game immensely while I think nothing will out do WoW I think this is the game that will come the closest. Its the most solid all around mmo in the last five years, the world is not boring unlike Rift and all I can say is this, check out every last one of the "Letter from the producer videos" to see how much Yoshi and his team are really putting love into this. gaem. Beta 4 will hit in July so judge for yourself. Me personally I'm quite happy with what I have experienced so far and I think a lot of people are going to be pleasantly surprised. I do not think this will be another niche MMO, is it groundbreaking? No, but its definitely like making vanilla ice cream with Kahlua sauce on top. Its a fine fine game, but again don't take my word for it, beta 4 is in July.

Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  tank017

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5/26/13 8:52:04 PM#64
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by tank017
Originally posted by smokedogg311
While i doubt FFXIV: ARR reaches the 12mil mark, its already a fantastic game and im sure it will sell very well. To those same bitter people that played it before how many times have you got a bad burger then went back to eat there a week later? You'll get over it or miss out.

I wasnt one of those people..

 

but a burger doesnt cost $60 -$80,depending on the version you bought.

 

Besides,if the burger is bad,I send it back for a new one.

Thats exactly what square is doing...they took back the bad burger fired the guy who made it and hired another guy to make a better burger for the customer and they dont have to repay for it.

Good,if they werent it'd be a nice dent in their image.

  mastersomrat

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5/26/13 9:03:33 PM#65
It seems like someone always states the "going to be better than WoW", fad.  Thing is, if WoW released for the first time today (vanilla or current), it would be going FTP within months.  Don't get me wrong, WoW was an ok MMO in it's day but then again, their were only a hand full of mmo's to choose from.
  MisterSr

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Nothing surprises me these days, luckily I am getting into the industry to create my own surprises.

5/26/13 9:08:19 PM#66

Baseless post after baseless post; "fanboys" and "trolls" alike. Stop throwing fake numbers and absurd premonitions around people. And what does it matter if FFXIV:ARR reaches the population of WoW, as long as the quality of the game is good it will maintain a loyal and strong crowd just like FFXI. Personally I prefer less numbers with higher quality people and a tighter knit community, if I could get that I would be happy. As for the quality of the game, I haven't played the new version yet so here's to hoping that it is a quality experience worth writing home about.

  KhinRunite

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5/26/13 9:20:47 PM#67

ARR has been compared to WoW multiple times now and it's raising a lot of red flags for me.

I am inclined to try it but I don't think they'll offer a free trial, so here's a -1 from their potential customers.

  Drakynn

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5/26/13 9:22:10 PM#68
It will certainly be the greatest MMO since the last one!!!At least till the next one after it!!!!
  ElRenmazuo

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5/26/13 9:32:23 PM#69
Originally posted by KhinRunite

ARR has been compared to WoW multiple times now and it's raising a lot of red flags for me.

I am inclined to try it but I don't think they'll offer a free trial, so here's a -1 from their potential customers.

beta Phase 4 will be Open Beta, you can try it then

  mindw0rk

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5/26/13 9:34:17 PM#70

And dont worry. If it fails again, they can always shut down v2 and release v3 couple years later with fancy name: Realm Strikes Back 

 

  Ventlus

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5/26/13 9:42:57 PM#71
pretty amazed at how many negative people their are out their. For me personally i did play it in 1.0 and didn't like to much. However i think they have fixed the things i wanted fix and the game looks beautiful so 10/10 for visuals as well. And for being able to beat WoW i don't think it will cause it is FF. WoW didn't take as much work (to complete tasks in game)as FFXI did and i'm pretty sure FFXIV will still take more work then WoW does. That coupled with people that still butthurt from first launch will make it so doesn't match WoW in subs but i think it will do just well. FFXI has been running for 11 years and still sub based and i think they fixed what needed to be done in 14 to make it run just as long and more. I already preorded CE personally and can't wait to play and i really think it is what i have been craving for all this time in a MMO. 
  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

5/26/13 10:34:50 PM#72
Originally posted by mindw0rk

And dont worry. If it fails again, they can always shut down v2 and release v3 couple years later with fancy name: Realm Strikes Back 

 

except that the CEO of SE said that they're pretty much betting their entire company on this game's success...

So no.

  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

5/27/13 12:22:02 AM#73

Square is the classiest developer on the planet.You simply will not see another developer admit to any fault,just excuses.

FFXIV was not that bad,it was actually still far superior to many products out there.it was more a case of players not getting what they wanted and because Square admitted fault,everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

it released with a few bugs,not like every other game doesn't have the bugs and glitches..Does that make it right,no of course not,do other devs admit fault,you can bet they won't.

You know what other developers do rather than admit fault?They try to hide it and mislead people,a famous one lately is to shut down the forums when a problem arises on release or a new xpac.Square Enix doesn't hide or shut down forums.

I know of  a famous excuse and i hate excuses is the famous "I prefer game play over quality". OH yes of course that is why we see 99.9% of players just running linear questing,you can get that in FFXIV and looks better doing it.Then what is the other 0.1% doing?Raiding,so they are not even playing a MMO any more just a bunch of instances that are super easy and cheap to design.

If you want a MMO,one that looks good and does the same thing other games does with a twist,FFXIV is still a top quality game.If you want nothing but instances or PVP,FFXIV would not be for you.

My only gripe is the same as day 1,it is simply not as good as FFXi but then no game is and it has NOTHING to do with subs or popularity.I would love to see any other developer produce a FFXI quality game on the PS2,geesh Blizzard can't even port their own games nor can they make their own quality game engine.

 

 

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  ElRenmazuo

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5/27/13 1:53:58 AM#74
Originally posted by Wizardry

Square is the classiest developer on the planet.You simply will not see another developer admit to any fault,just excuses.

FFXIV was not that bad,it was actually still far superior to many products out there.it was more a case of players not getting what they wanted and because Square admitted fault,everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

it released with a few bugs,not like every other game doesn't have the bugs and glitches..Does that make it right,no of course not,do other devs admit fault,you can bet they won't.

You know what other developers do rather than admit fault?They try to hide it and mislead people,a famous one lately is to shut down the forums when a problem arises on release or a new xpac.Square Enix doesn't hide or shut down forums.

I know of  a famous excuse and i hate excuses is the famous "I prefer game play over quality". OH yes of course that is why we see 99.9% of players just running linear questing,you can get that in FFXIV and looks better doing it.Then what is the other 0.1% doing?Raiding,so they are not even playing a MMO any more just a bunch of instances that are super easy and cheap to design.

If you want a MMO,one that looks good and does the same thing other games does with a twist,FFXIV is still a top quality game.If you want nothing but instances or PVP,FFXIV would not be for you.

My only gripe is the same as day 1,it is simply not as good as FFXi but then no game is and it has NOTHING to do with subs or popularity.I would love to see any other developer produce a FFXI quality game on the PS2,geesh Blizzard can't even port their own games nor can they make their own quality game engine.

 

 


I agree with everything you said but Blizzard is actually supporting sony now and porting Diablo 3 to PS3 and PS4 so its a start and im glad they chose sony and not MS.  I am actually hoping after this move that Titan will be multi-platform as in PC and PS4. Plus i dont think its about if they can or cant port games, i think its mainly because they have been a loyal PC game developer for majority of their years and because majority of their fans have been PC gamers since before consoles had online features and since the days of LAN. Now I guess they finally decided they want to try and expand them selves to a different audience especially now that the next gen of consoles are using x86 based system architecture which as a PC developer should have no trouble making games for.

  ipeka

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5/27/13 3:30:28 AM#75
Originally posted by mindw0rk

And dont worry. If it fails again, they can always shut down v2 and release v3 couple years later with fancy name: Realm Strikes Back 

 

v3's title : return of the realm . legit....

  duuude007

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5/27/13 3:45:03 AM#76
Originally posted by ipeka
Originally posted by mindw0rk

And dont worry. If it fails again, they can always shut down v2 and release v3 couple years later with fancy name: Realm Strikes Back 

 

v3's title : return of the realm . legit....

As was said before, SE is staking their reputation on the success of this unprecedented reboot.

Unless you are seriously trying to encourage a major company to fail in order to take the whole gaming industry down a peg, I would advise you to lead, follow or get TF out of the way, and let the big boys do what is necessary to recover.

  ButterNuttzz

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5/27/13 9:21:53 AM#77
Why do people keep comparing wow to final fantasy they r two different gams in two different worlds. Yes wow was and still is very successful no doubt and so what if final fantasy doesnt bring in as much as wow does final fantasy will still be successful. They might have some of the same concepts like wow but what mmo doesnt anymore. Everyone wants to please the general .audience so everyone usually uses the same concepts. What true final fantasy fans want is that true in depth story driven game where we can connect to the world emotionally thats where final fantasy will stand out as where they always did with there great story driven games
  nerovipus32

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5/27/13 9:30:15 AM#78
It's final fantasy if they market it like they do their single player games it should sell like hotcakes.. problem is they don't market their online games very well.
  wowclones

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5/27/13 9:38:39 AM#79
  snapfusion

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5/27/13 9:45:49 AM#80

Wrong, way way wrong, but everyone should be allowed to dream.

Making clones of existing MMO's does not make the next "big" MMO.

Haven't we learned anything yet?

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