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  Reserton

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5/26/13 1:29:13 PM#21
Originally posted by Goldenboy93
Originally posted by khameleon
That game was terrible and scared away at least 40% of those players to where they won't even try this new version. The ones that have come back get this version for FREE, so that will not count as a sale. For example, I bought the collector's edition for myself and my girl, we both get a free CE this time around.

 

 

I picked up the CE for me and my wife years ago as well...is there some promotion going on where we get to trade in those codes for free versions of the upcoming CE for A Realm Reborn?

Not a promotion. If you bought 1.0 CE you get ARR CE free of charge, automatic upgrade, can login for a free month also on launch. You will get all the new digital items that you get with ARR CE.

  Goldenboy93

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5/26/13 1:32:13 PM#22
Originally posted by Reserton
Originally posted by Goldenboy93
Originally posted by khameleon
That game was terrible and scared away at least 40% of those players to where they won't even try this new version. The ones that have come back get this version for FREE, so that will not count as a sale. For example, I bought the collector's edition for myself and my girl, we both get a free CE this time around.

 

 

I picked up the CE for me and my wife years ago as well...is there some promotion going on where we get to trade in those codes for free versions of the upcoming CE for A Realm Reborn?

Not a promotion. If you bought 1.0 CE you get ARR CE free of charge, automatic upgrade, can login for a free month also on launch. You will get all the new digital items that you get with ARR CE.

 

Fantastic, thanks for the heads up! Will there be an e-mail about this when it launches? Or do we just wait until it launches and then go download it from the site? Sorry for the questions, I just went to the ARR site and there's no info, or places to sign up. Do we just re-install FF14 and sign in through that and it'll upgrade?

Cheers! :)

  Snowdon_Cloudripper

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5/26/13 1:34:48 PM#23
ARR I think will have a great showing . I think it will take a chunk of WOWs players . Wildstar to me looks like a game for 12 year olds it just looks childish to me. tESO and Neverwinter are going to fail because every F2P game fails . it morphs from F2P to B2W . Sure you can have everything in the free game but you want more inv slots sorry that's going to cost you 9.99 . FFXIV:ARR will do it right it has everything and I do mean everything it takes everything for the most popular MMOs and adds them to FF in a total world that is Final Fantasy and it still seems like it is Final Fantasy . The only thing the game dosent have is action combat but that's what makes it final fantasy . I am going to buy this game and I am going to love this game . And so are a lot of other people. Some will not like it because of really dumb reasons or valid ones. Some will just hate it because they think they know better when them people probably never even watched any of the videos or read any info on the game. There going to hate it because that what they do hate.

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  spidii

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5/26/13 1:39:06 PM#24
Originally posted by Reserton
Originally posted by Goldenboy93
Originally posted by khameleon
That game was terrible and scared away at least 40% of those players to where they won't even try this new version. The ones that have come back get this version for FREE, so that will not count as a sale. For example, I bought the collector's edition for myself and my girl, we both get a free CE this time around.

 

 

I picked up the CE for me and my wife years ago as well...is there some promotion going on where we get to trade in those codes for free versions of the upcoming CE for A Realm Reborn?

Not a promotion. If you bought 1.0 CE you get ARR CE free of charge, automatic upgrade, can login for a free month also on launch. You will get all the new digital items that you get with ARR CE.

1.0 CE non-legacy players will not be getting early access or the cait sith/mog hat but everything else is true, at least for the time being (and it seems as though it will stay this way). You would have to pre-order a new copy if you want either of these benefits.

  JCBN

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5/26/13 1:41:57 PM#25

This is not a new game...

I allready wasted cash on this once... i wont make the same mistake twice.

If this game gets 75 billion subsribers... i will not be one of them, and i could not care less.

  spidii

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5/26/13 1:48:38 PM#26
Originally posted by JCBN

This is not a new game...

I allready wasted cash on this once... i wont make the same mistake twice.

If this game gets 75 billion subsribers... i will not be one of them, and i could not care less.

You would have to be, we don't have even close to 75 billion on this planet so we'll need every last person we can get to amount to anything even remotely close to your ridiculous number for this ridiculous post.

  Snowdon_Cloudripper

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5/26/13 1:51:14 PM#27
Originally posted by JCBN

This is not a new game...

I allready wasted cash on this once... i wont make the same mistake twice.

If this game gets 75 billion subsribers... i will not be one of them, and i could not care less.

Watch the new video ? here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQ87KtH1G8

 

I am in Beta and I have played V1 . V1 and ARR are two different games. The plot might be somewhat the same . The world and cities are the same but the game over all is different . Very very different . When Phase 4 is out go play it phase 4 is open beta . I will also be streaming the game live on my LS website and twitch when we can . A lot of people are going to say OMG when they finally get to play it.

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  Punk999

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5/26/13 1:56:34 PM#28
Originally posted by Daventry85
Originally posted by pauly6478
They rename Final fantasy to Wildstar? I missed something.

 

Wildstar is turning out to be the do all , MMO of this generation... when Wildstar comes out I see blizzard trying to ship another X-pac because they gonna be losing about 50% of their subs.

 

If you loved ARR then good for you , but its just awesome graphics , shallow combat , basic everything really... nothing says NEW they copy pasted every MMO from the past 10 years , not one thing they have is different.

HAHA! Yes and wildstar didnt copy anything right???

Every MMO that comes copy the old.

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  faxnadu

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5/26/13 1:56:37 PM#29
not talking about before but after world of warcraft , there is non that have been greater unfortunately.
  spidii

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5/26/13 1:59:43 PM#30
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya
Originally posted by JCBN

This is not a new game...

I allready wasted cash on this once... i wont make the same mistake twice.

If this game gets 75 billion subsribers... i will not be one of them, and i could not care less.

Watch the new video ? here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQ87KtH1G8

 

I am in Beta and I have played V1 . V1 and ARR are two different games. The plot might be somewhat the same . The world and cities are the same but the game over all is different . Very very different . When Phase 4 is out go play it phase 4 is open beta . I will also be streaming the game live on my LS website and twitch when we can . A lot of people are going to say OMG when thet actuality get to see the game played . Opinions will change .

I'll second this and stay away from these threads until the NDA is dropped and the game has been played by many so I can give real opinions based on real information. Until then, just trust that this game is completely and undeniably different from 1.0. Try to have a little faith in Yoshi and give this game a try during open beta at the very least. I think most will be very very pleased.

  ElRenmazuo

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5/26/13 2:02:13 PM#31

I remember  FF11 at its highest having about 2 million subs at one point in time.  I wouldnt be surprised if FF reborn got about 1 million subs or just close to it especially now that it will bring in PS3 users at the same time and because its a lot more casual friendly than FF11 was back in the day. Also including Japanese players as Final Fantasy 11 was the most popular mmo in Japan cuz they sure do love their final fantasy as much as south koreans love their starcraft especially from my experience playing with them on FF11.

In 2006, between 200,000 and 300,000 active players logged in per day, and the game was the dominant MMORPG in Japan.[5] In 2008 Square Enix noted that Final Fantasy XI had a strong user base of around 500,000 subscribers,[6] and in April 2009, announced that the total number of active characters exceeded 2 million for the first time.[7] Square Enix president Yoichi Wada announced in June 2012 that Final Fantasy XI had become the most profitable title in the Final Fantasy series.[8]

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  User Deleted
5/26/13 2:07:10 PM#32
Going up against ESO could be tough if timing works out that way.
  Siveria

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5/26/13 2:12:50 PM#33
Personally, I liked ff14 1.0 later on in its life, in FF14ARR i am glad they sped crafting up, a lot of the gear you use is actually crafted by players and not just some drop off some random mob in a forest. The gathering was streamlined to be made much faster, as was crafting. My biggest worry honestly is how shitty the summoner class will be (it was pretty shitty in ff11 due to no real worth of having them kept out when I played). I am also worried about the leveling speed, ff14 1.0 you'd level way to damn fast to 50, and the game kinda had a lack of stuff to do at 50. I personally hope they make it pretty slow, like not quite old school ff11 to 75 slow, a bit faster than that but not much. I'd like a team based mmo, not another mmo where you can solo to lv cap in 2-3 days, I don't care if it has multiple jobs. I also plan to start all over and have my new char funded by my old one assuming I play on the same server as her. Reason for this is because I want to experience the new world, and you really can't do that when all your chars are 35-40+ mostly. So my char will probally be a lowbie with a platinum Gil spoon in her mouth.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  duuude007

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5/26/13 2:17:24 PM#34
Originally posted by ZombieKen
Going up against ESO could be tough if timing works out that way.

Or not.

  Kyleran

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5/26/13 2:31:53 PM#35

in Japan this title will likely have a huge draw, but everywhere else, not so much.  (much like XI)

 

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  gunmanvlad

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5/26/13 2:53:31 PM#36

Yeah it might be the greatest "WoW-clone-MMO" since WoW, very likely.

Wonder if anyone but Final Fantasy fans will play it though...

 

I'd like to see the NDA lifted / Open Beta / Free weekend before stating anything clear. So far though, I just think everything looks and feels overly generic. Which, in all fairness, is to be expected from a game launched in 2010 (no matter the make-up they put on it). The fact that they don't NEED to release it as F2P like every other older MMO out there just shows that there are cohorts of fans (mostly in Japan) waiting to play it.

 

The level of hype it has on the other hand, AMAZING! Kudos to you guys for being so hyped up!

  gameguy369

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5/26/13 2:57:28 PM#37
Originally posted by Arcticnoon
Then theres the attraction for the ladies. In-game marriage. Ceremony and everything.(yes wedding gowns) Being able to dress up ones mount in various outfits. Minions or pets that walk along beside you. And man some of these are pretty impressive. Yes I know these can be found in several mmos, but none of them look as good as these. Imagine a hand clad in a mickey mouse glove that follows you pointing at stuff. Then theres the outfits. Anything from full body armor, to dresses with purses filled flowers, to bikinis. Finally the ability to craft items for your house. Anything from wallpaper to roofing. And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest.

 

Yes. Because female gamers only care about stuff like in-game marriage and looking pretty.

 

Clearly you've been single too long..

  Tokken

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5/26/13 3:00:28 PM#38

Greatest? I don't think so. I hope it 's a good game though. IMO nothing in it advertises to me to want to play it.

  Yaevindusk

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5/26/13 3:01:26 PM#39

 

Let's pull back the hype just a tad and just forward to a game with a great story, combat that they're updating with player feedback every phase and a beautiful world to explore.

 

In addition we also have to consider whatever limitations it going to consoles natural gives its (especially when considering combat and how imputing commands may take longer with a console / targeting mobs on screen).

 

But yes, the game has quite a bit of features that seem to be fan-tastics such as chocobo raising / using chocobos as battle partners and equiping them to housing neighborhoods (which I always look for and quite the few games are coming out with) and graphics / aesthetics that are incredibly pleasing to look at on the PC version.  

 

We also have to consider the horrid attention span of MMO gamers nowadays and how they would quit and uninstall a game before even making a character or after just reading the tutorial of a game if they get bored enough.  There's little indication that the game starts off fast or slow by what was stated publicly (aside from an interview where Yoshi-P said he didn't want things too complex at low levels and confuse people while they're still learning).  We could also guess that we won't get such things as chocobos until about level 20 (as was FFXI), housing will be towards end game as he stated a while ago that real estate will be very expensive and go down over time in the instanced neighborhoods (and the beautiful areas / scenery they get) and since you can attach chocobo farms to houses, it's (chocobo raising/farming) likely to be late in game as well.

 

Not to mention that Gold Saucer will likely not appear until a later patch, as will such classes as Ninja and Samurai.

 

 

With the latest information that was made public it seems the character creation process was greatly improved on.  That should help quell those who quit after seeing a bad one of these.  The graphics and the world seem to be top notch, so at the very least that means that some will judge it on the first couple tutorial quests which will likely be just teaching you the starting intricacies of the combat system on the wildlife (much like fighting bunnies outside of San'Doria back in FFXI).   This may instantly put people off and they aren't likely to get the where the storyline begins / be invested in it enough before losing interest in the game or even get to level 15 to be shown the other towns and the first (again introduction) dungeon.

 

 

Naturally there will also be those who say "WoW clone" as there are with every game, and while that is rarely true when it comes to games, it will offput many as well.

 

The real income will likely come from the console players as they finally "upgrade" from FFXI to FFXIV, or be happy they get a "true" MMORPG on their platform finally.  Though I'm finding it unlikely that it will surpass 750,000 subscribers at start (though I would be pleasantly surprised if I were wrong; the initial prediction may increase as/if they brilliantly expose the game more before launch).

 

With the game having three main storylines to start (which will be progressed with patches alongside new classes from time to time), hopefully people will stay for those and when such things were released as well as the great many other features the game will have.  The last thing I think many of us want is another P2P to fail (as much as I personal dislike the payment model) and make a Final Fantasy game a F2P one (which I also dislike).  This is especially true since they completely remade their game and their engine from scratch as opposed to taking the easier route (despite any optimistic or pessimistic views on what that happened).  There are quite a few features which I don't feel comfortable talking about, but they know that a game can't just thrive on story alone and are implementing things to keep attention.

 

I'm interested in how limit breaks will be used in raids myself; maybe even summoners or the Free Company summons (of which the concept was introduced a year ago in a letter from the producer) that can summon full primals to help them after they accomplish a nearly impossible linkshell quest.  But as of yet these features have only been talked about a long time ago in a letter, with the limit break shown in the limit break video a year ago.

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  simsalabim77

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5/26/13 3:10:30 PM#40
Never going to happen. This game will be very lucky to be as successful as XI. 
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