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  Legendtrigger

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Joined: 2/01/13
Posts: 41

7/13/13 2:04:32 PM#361
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by SnarkRitter
I keep giggling whenever I see the statement that FF XIV will retain at least 500k subs. One month after launch, yeah probably. 6 months after launch? Based on what I've seen with P2P MMO releases for the past 4 years: Only in the wildest fanboy dream.

I agree with you. This is a lot of wishful thinking about the fans. 

Doogiehowser has nothing better too do then spam final fantasy threads with his negativity

  Sephrinx

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Joined: 7/13/13
Posts: 68

7/13/13 5:34:31 PM#362

I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous. 

I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say

"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."

This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.

"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."

I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.

 

"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"

Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.

 

"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."

This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.

 

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  Herodes

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Joined: 8/12/03
Posts: 1488

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7/13/13 6:33:36 PM#363

See who I am

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Edit: sorry, wrong video, Changed it

  Chocobro

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Joined: 7/05/13
Posts: 66

7/13/13 7:17:20 PM#364
Originally posted by Sephrinx

I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous. 

I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say

"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."

This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.

 I'll go ahead and qoute you "This is purely your opinion on the matter"

 

"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."

I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.

Most of Nobuos tracks have been replaced by various other composers in a ARR, still one of the better soundtracks in MMOs. Best graphics however is up for grabs.

"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"

Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.

Your free to play any other game, but you won't see me calling other games a "catastrophe" that I don't like when a large chunk of beta testers and a few other unbaised previews actually like what they see in this game.

"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."

This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.

Clearly this game doesn't suit your tastes. 

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  Arthasm

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/26/09
Posts: 533

7/13/13 7:19:36 PM#365
I disagree with OP, nothing can beat Wow. However this game will be worth subbing (if they not screw with combat bugs/lag).
  Ganksinatra

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Joined: 12/28/09
Posts: 262

7/13/13 7:21:04 PM#366
Originally posted by Sephrinx

I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous. 

I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say

"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."

This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.

"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."

I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.

 

"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"

Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.

 

"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."

This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.

 

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Translation: My opinion is the only one that ever matters, ever. It has the weight of 30 or 40 of you lower life form's opinions. Every game should be catered to what I like and what I want or it will be a failure.

 

This might be the dumbest post ever on mmorpg.com.......and that's saying a lot.

  Quorina

Novice Member

Joined: 12/06/12
Posts: 42

7/13/13 7:48:04 PM#367

Why is every new MMO game that someone may not like lambasted as a "WoW clone"? Sure, this game has a lot of kill and fetch quests, heck most of them are, but that's pretty standard MMO fare. Perhaps you'd like to tell us about all the MMOs that don't have such quests, even the ones that were released before WoW? ARR doesn't even have Num Lock for running or /r for replying to a whisper, pretty standard WoW clone features. But okay. Just remember: Even games like GW2 was called a "WoW clone" by people who didn't like the game.

ARR is a decent game, but it will NOT KILL WOW. WoW has excellent combat, ARR does not. WoW has millions of addicts and rabid fanboys, ARR isn't even out yet. Most of WoW is fucking easy, ARR, from what I've experienced so far, is in between easy and medium difficulty. ARR is Asian, WoW is Western. ARR is a good game, WoW is not. Okay, that part is just my opinion, but you get my point.

WoW will die on its own thanks to the likes of Greg Street and his failing decisions, with or without the help of competition. Patch 5.3 was the final nail in the coffin for so many PvPers, where they made heroic raiding gear BETTER than the best PvP gear in open-world PvP. With bullshit like that, we don't need ARR, or TESO, or Wildstar to do more damage. It will do enough on its own.

Good riddance.

  InsaneDalek

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/01/13
Posts: 123

EXTERMINATE!

7/13/13 8:13:53 PM#368
Originally posted by Ganksinatra
Originally posted by Sephrinx

I strongly disagree. The game is not very good at all. I would give it a 5/10, and that is being generous. 

I am having a hard time believing that you have even played the game. You mention nothing of it, and are only going off of information that seems rather fishy. You don't make note of anything in the game, you only say

"And the ability to mount the heads of monsters you've slain over your fireplace to show off for you guest."

This is by far the stupidest feature of any MMO to date. I don't want a house. I don't want pink frilly wall paper. I don't want to get married. I don't want a flowery bikini. This is not the SIMS. This is an MMO. We are here to kill mobs, blast dungeons and get loot. Not to play house and dress up.

"A beautiful soundtrack and the best graphics of any mmo to date."

I would have to disagree. This is purely your opinion on the matter. The game does have a good soundtrack, seeing as it's mostly reworks of Nobuo Uematsu's previous music, of course it is going to be great, he is one of the most talented and celebrated composers in all of video game history.

 

"Plus how many WoW and GW2 players arent really that happy with the current state of their gaming?"

Trust me. I would rather play GW2 or WoW ANY DAY over this catastrophe of a game. Even tho I'm not happy with their current state, they are magnitudes more fun that this game. I can't stand WoW anymore, I think it's awful. I could give a whole review about it, and how much I dislike it but I'm not going too. Even having said that, I would prefer WoW to RRB.

 

"Veteran players have even complained that it was too easy."

This game is mindless. It's the slowest paced MMO I've ever played, in both terms of story progression and combat. I highly suggest you actually play a games Beta before you hail it as the new god of MMO's, because it is quite obvious you haven't played it at all.

 

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Translation: My opinion is the only one that ever matters, ever. It has the weight of 30 or 40 of you lower life form's opinions. Every game should be catered to what I like and what I want or it will be a failure.

 

This might be the dumbest post ever on mmorpg.com.......and that's saying a lot.

Gonna have to agree with that. Anybody who thinks housing is a 'stupid' feature in an MMO is just... well, they're not looking for an MMO. They're looking for an ARPG.

Plenty of ARPGs out there for you pal. Diablo 1-3, Path of Exile, Grim Dawn, Sacred 1 & 2, Torchlight 1 & 2, Titan Quest, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, NOX, Dungeon Siege 1-3, Borderlands 1 & 2, Depths of Peril, Din's Curse, Legend of Grimrock, Icewind Dale 1 & 2, Marvel Heroes, Drakensang Online, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Go play one of those, because 'blasting through mobs and getting loot' is exactly how those games play, and they can be incredibly fun.

MMORPGs are not the genre you're looking for.

It's a sad day indeed when a family is too afraid of reprisals to publicly thank somebody for saving their lives.

  jazz.be

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Joined: 8/26/06
Posts: 757

7/13/13 8:21:22 PM#369

Fail and sub numbers speculations are so pointless. I think by doing that, people are more in the act of wishful thinking. Everyone has his own little hope. Either a fail, or success. It's not objective so it doesn't matter.

I've had a taste of this game and while I found the first few levels boring and the player/game interaction awkward, I'm starting to think this game has few hidden treasures.

And the high fantasy style (I'm new to final fantasy) is quite special to. There are not many MMOs out with this type of fantasy. Truly hardcore fantasy, but in a deep sense. Not just glitter and colors.

  Rollcage8

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Joined: 3/29/12
Posts: 62

7/13/13 8:29:49 PM#370

FF14:ARR is a really great MMORPG. Anyone who doesn't like the game is basically being very negative/pessimistic and I challenge them to make a better MMORPG.

WoW was huge because of timing as much as it was about being a good game. 

  PsychoticHamster

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Joined: 12/01/12
Posts: 93

7/13/13 8:30:59 PM#371
What is with this claim that ARR looks good? I maxed out the settings and the game looks like utter trash. GW2 has better graphics, and from what I've seen ESO's graphics already look far beyond FFIV. Low res textures, bad AA, some of the worst looking foliage I've seen in a recent game. AM I doing something wrong? I feel like an MMO in 2013 should look better, and tax my 2010 era machine heavily, but on max settings I'm still pulling 50+ frames. 

  Sephrinx

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Joined: 7/13/13
Posts: 68

7/13/13 9:16:31 PM#372
Originally posted by PsychoticHamster
What is with this claim that ARR looks good? I maxed out the settings and the game looks like utter trash. GW2 has better graphics, and from what I've seen ESO's graphics already look far beyond FFIV. Low res textures, bad AA, some of the worst looking foliage I've seen in a recent game. AM I doing something wrong? I feel like an MMO in 2013 should look better, and tax my 2010 era machine heavily, but on max settings I'm still pulling 50+ frames. 

GW2 has the best graphics of any mmo I've ever seen. The graphics in FFXIV are pretty good. I have them all set to max and I get a solid 60+ fps. There are things that need work tho. Like, the Grass and Leaves on tree, look like they were made circa 1998 for PS1. 

 

'Translation: My opinion is the only one that ever matters, ever. It has the weight of 30 or 40 of you lower life form's opinions. Every game should be catered to what I like and what I want or it will be a failure."

That isn't true at all. I don't know why you are so butt hurt about this, but ok man. Just have a glass of water and clam down, you are being way too over dramatic. My opinion is just, my opinion. Stating my opinion may offend you, but that is your choice as to be offended. I'm not here too hold your hand and tell you it's ok, just here voicing my opinion on the matter, and how I feel about it. 

 

"Gonna have to agree with that. Anybody who thinks housing is a 'stupid' feature in an MMO is just... well, they're not looking for an MMO. They're looking for an ARPG."

No, I am looking for an MMO. An MMO that focused on Gameplay, Battle, Fight Mechanics and class synergy. I do not want to have anything to do with things such as in game housing. It's the equivilant to achievements to me, just filler, and an illusion of content that doesn't provide anything in terms of the core game play or replyablity. Why would you spend so much time and money paying people to script and code such a useless feature in a game? If you want to play dolly dressup and husband and wife, go play Second Life or Animal Crossing or something. The entire idea of having marriage, housing, and tampons in a game is just beyond my ability to comprehend as a good idea. Sure, it will be fun for those people who want it in an mmo, but I am not one of them, nor do I see how it will enhance my experience in the game. 

 

Plenty of ARPGs out there for you pal. Diablo 1-3, Path of Exile, Grim Dawn, Sacred 1 & 2, Torchlight 1 & 2, Titan Quest, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, NOX, Dungeon Siege 1-3, Borderlands 1 & 2, Depths of Peril, Din's Curse, Legend of Grimrock, Icewind Dale 1 & 2, Marvel Heroes, Drakensang Online, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Go play one of those, because 'blasting through mobs and getting loot' is exactly how those games play, and they can be incredibly fun

I agree entirely. I played the hell out of Diablo 1&2, I played NOX, I played Borderlands 1 and Icewind Dale. I played Path of Exile too, as well as Torchlight 1&2. I was infatuated with Diablo 2, for damn near 10 years I played that game, with and without mods (Valhalla!!) and I had a great time. I also, during that same period, was hardcore into WoW and I played it so much that my grades suffered terribly in high school and almost got kicked out of my house. I had a problem lol. I don't just want to blast through content and get loot, you may have misinterpreted what I meant. Internet ftw. 

  Shatter30

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7/13/13 9:28:30 PM#373
Its just funny how people think this with every MMO then they flop.  This game will peak at launch then lose mass players because people don't want to pay monthly for yet another sub par MMO when there are a whole bunch out there for free.  Then another MMO will come out and we repeat the circle of life. 
  Arthasm

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7/13/13 9:28:39 PM#374
Originally posted by PsychoticHamster
What is with this claim that ARR looks good? I maxed out the settings and the game looks like utter trash. GW2 has better graphics, and from what I've seen ESO's graphics already look far beyond FFIV. Low res textures, bad AA, some of the worst looking foliage I've seen in a recent game. AM I doing something wrong? I feel like an MMO in 2013 should look better, and tax my 2010 era machine heavily, but on max settings I'm still pulling 50+ frames. 

I totally agree. Look for example at Minecraft. Graphics are so old and 80s, I really don't understand people love and playing that crap with prehistoric graphic.

  Aldous.Huxley

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7/13/13 9:43:53 PM#375

When Blizzard realized how good FFXIV is, they scrapped project Titan & decided to begin again from scratch. Sources say it was because they want to make a FFXIV clone.

I don't make the news folks, I just report it.

  Daft

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7/13/13 10:01:58 PM#376
If this game was only PC it would flop, but the ps3/ps4 release will make this game thrive. I can see this one easily topping WOWs numbers. If you played the PC beta i can see how you where not impressed. PS3 testing was a breath of fresh air and something new.  I could only imagine how somebody that is new to mmorps is going to feel when they pick this up at walmart.
  TheScavenger

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7/13/13 10:09:39 PM#377

Well, the clan I'm part of that are big spenders in FREE MMOs won't be playing this. Pay to play models are outdated, and slowly being removed from the genre. Heck, nearly every pay to play MMO has a cash shop anyway. Look at WoW, most expensive vanity pets/mounts I've seen. Or the 50 dollar (it was 50 right?) monocle in EVE (ROFL a lot of my friends died laughing at that)

 

Since this Final Fantasy MMO is pay to play, we won't be playing. I imagine it will have a "vanity" cash shop to, to get even more money from people. No thanks.

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  dinams

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7/13/13 10:23:48 PM#378

If I had not seem my fair share of releases I would fall into this

But nah, I will just stay and watch the water going under the bridge, I dont really care anymore about mmos

 

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  JKGL

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7/13/13 10:23:56 PM#379

Meh - I'm just waiting for a quality MMORPG to play.

SE messed up once with FFXIV's first release, but they've done flawlessly with FFXI.

Honestly - I think people are right by saying the PS3 release will sky-rocket their subscriber rate and expansions will be frequent.

Just like FFXI.

God - I just wish Microsoft got their head out of their asses and would put FFXIV on Xbox One.

  JKGL

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7/13/13 10:29:51 PM#380
Originally posted by Daft
If this game was only PC it would flop, but the ps3/ps4 release will make this game thrive. I can see this one easily topping WOWs numbers. If you played the PC beta i can see how you where not impressed. PS3 testing was a breath of fresh air and something new.  I could only imagine how somebody that is new to mmorps is going to feel when they pick this up at walmart.

I agree with you 100%.

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