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  Dauzqul

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OP  5/22/13 7:32:21 AM#1

So ESO stated that their PvP will be [mod edit]., dedicated PvP area.

 

I'm done with the sass. No thanks.

 

This game seems to be more like a medieval SWTOR, anyways.

  nerovipus32

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5/22/13 7:35:00 AM#2
Well at least you have made your mind up, so now you can look forward to some other game.
  baphamet

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5/22/13 8:20:13 AM#3

apparently the countless threads already in existence on this topic was not enough.

  ezduzit

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5/22/13 8:26:15 AM#4

I have to agree. PVP zones or arena have no place in a future MMO. It's part of the same old crap that is proven ineffective to the pvp community.

 

  Nanfoodle

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5/22/13 9:15:46 AM#5
Originally posted by ezduzit

I have to agree. PVP zones or arena have no place in a future MMO. It's part of the same old crap that is proven ineffective to the pvp community.

 

The DAoC model used in ESO for PvP is one well loved and reminisced by many hard core PvP fan. Myself included. They could not have picked a better PvP model IMO. Open world PvP everywhere mostly leads to two things. Players picking on low level chars and camping quest hubs. Or PvP groups spread out so thin you dont get much PvP action. All PvP focused on one big map means more large scale battles and removes the griefers. 

  Naral

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5/22/13 9:20:28 AM#6

No world pvp, yes please.

 

I am *so* done with WPVP games at this point, I am pretty stoked by this. Will it be a smaller crowd? Sure thing. Doesn't matter to me. 

What I get sick of with world pvp is how balance attempts affect pve. It seems that anyone has yet to find a situation wherein they can have two separate systems that do not necessitate balances/nerfs for one without affecting the other and keep open world pvp workable.

That, and aside from some vanilla WoW experiences, world pvp just seems to bring out the douchebags and griefers anyway.  

  ShakyMo

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5/22/13 9:21:11 AM#7
Good luck in your current "pvp" mmo, probably wow.
  itbewilly

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5/22/13 9:27:08 AM#8
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by ezduzit

I have to agree. PVP zones or arena have no place in a future MMO. It's part of the same old crap that is proven ineffective to the pvp community.

 

The DAoC model used in ESO for PvP is one well loved and reminisced by many hard core PvP fan. Myself included. They could not have picked a better PvP model IMO. Open world PvP everywhere mostly leads to two things. Players picking on low level chars and camping quest hubs. Or PvP groups spread out so thin you dont get much PvP action. All PvP focused on one big map means more large scale battles and removes the griefers. 

Haven't you learned anything from these forums? World pvp is only fun when you can macro your skills to max level and steamroll noobs or level to max level and then have your way with newbie zones/quest hubs.

 

  Thane

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5/22/13 9:29:34 AM#9
Originally posted by ezduzit

I have to agree. PVP zones or arena have no place in a future MMO. It's part of the same old crap that is proven ineffective to the pvp community. 

yea... right.

 

pveler commenting on pvp, always nice to see :)

 

ineeffective? no true pvpler would claim that DAOC's pvp system was ineffective. and that's what they aim for here (by using nearly exactly the same system)

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  Zalmon

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5/22/13 9:29:38 AM#10
This is obligatory 'is there open world PVP?' thread that pops on every single MMO forum. No forum will be complete without this.
  ShakyMo

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5/22/13 9:33:21 AM#11
And the answer is

Depends where your character is stood.
  eiekal

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5/22/13 9:50:26 AM#12

First off, I love the Frank Frazetta Pic, Naral.

I'm an old school pvper going back to the mudding pvp days like many (or few) of you.  To us these "newer" mmo's are carebear because you dont lose all your gear when you die.  Griefing is no problem because you lose nothing.  Skirmish fighting is fun as hell in world pvp.  Anticipating being jumped is the very excitement I look for and this feeling only comes from a online game where other players can attack you unaware.

 

I havent had a chance to research the pvp in this game but I keep looking for a game with collision detection (which I love even with its downsides), and where movement and positional attacks mean something and give an advantage.  I've tried the latest GW2 and the older darkfalls and they punish circle strafers by slowing strafe speed.  I might as well take off my strafe keys on my keyboard.   I hope this game turns out to have collision detection and reward movement and positional attacks other than just a rogue class.  Don't slow strafe speed, Slow stationary rotation speed so everyone will have to use movement and their strafe keys.

 

My 2 cents is I would like to have had world pvp.  Alot of pvpers are searching hard for a great pvp game.  Can't pve'ers get their pve fix by playing wow?  It has pve and raids, what more can a pve'er ask for :p

 

  Iselin

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5/22/13 10:51:30 AM#13

And so the self-culling continues... good. Move along, nothing to see here.

And OP... "medieval SWTOR" really wasn't so clever that it deserved posting here and here.

  ShakyMo

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5/22/13 11:05:43 AM#14
Eikal
Try planetside 2 for a more casual pvp experience. Eve for a more involved one (play the tutorial its important). Or aow for something in between.

It's a decent time for mmo pvp now. For most of the post wow years we only had eve that was any good.
  ShakyMo

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5/22/13 11:07:19 AM#15
Iselin

What's funny is he's asking for the game to be more like medieval swtor. E.g. wow.

Does he not realise swtor has the same flick a switch on a few pvp servers setup as wow?
  Iselin

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5/22/13 11:12:06 AM#16
[mod edit]
  eiekal

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5/22/13 11:12:30 AM#17

ShakyMo, thank you.  I'll check them out closely.  Speaking of Eve, that pvp game has been around for a long time...and some ppl say a game focused on pvp is doomed to fail =D

 

Thanks again

  Saxonblade

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5/22/13 11:13:24 AM#18
[mod edit]

 

"So ESO stated that their PvP will be ultra sassy, e.g., dedicated PvP area.

I'm done with the sass. No thanks.

This game seems to be more like a medieval SWTOR, anyways."

 

 

Where does he say that?

  Iselin

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5/22/13 11:19:42 AM#19
Originally posted by Saxonblade
[mod edit]

 

"So ESO stated that their PvP will be ultra sassy, e.g., dedicated PvP area.

I'm done with the sass. No thanks.

This game seems to be more like a medieval SWTOR, anyways."

 

 

Where does he say that?

Your post is funny. For many months the shorthand criticism for SWTOR is that it was just "WOW in space." So when someone dismisses ESO as a medieval SWTOR, doesn't that sorta, kinda, point back to WOW? 

It did for me.

  kizan0601

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5/22/13 11:20:51 AM#20
Too bad this game is going to end up just like swtor like someone else mentioned....for the open world pvpers....looks like Wildstar is going to gain a lot more players now.
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