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  eric_w66

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5/21/13 3:24:35 PM#21
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol how did "daoc proved it didn't work"

2nd most populated western mmo at the time.

2nd out of 2 isn't that good. And it went to third when WoW came out, and 4th whenever the next one came out...

  ShakyMo

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5/21/13 3:29:24 PM#22
Originally posted by eric_w66
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol how did "daoc proved it didn't work"

2nd most populated western mmo at the time.

2nd out of 2 isn't that good. And it went to third when WoW came out, and 4th whenever the next one came out...

out of 2???????

err EQ, DAOC, UO, SWG, AC, AO, EVE, planetside all existed pre wow.  (coh and EQ2 did too, but same year)

 

WOW came out at a good time, when people started getting broadband,  you cant compare subs of post broadband games to pre broadband games.  If you use that twisted logic, SWTOR is a masterpiece and EQ a flop.

 

You obviously dont like RVR.  But no one in their right mind could describe DAOC as a flop, it made a good deal of money and was a sucessful mmo for its time.   Hell even today 500k subs isn't to be sniffed at.

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  ShakyMo

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5/21/13 3:32:53 PM#23
Originally posted by jimdandy26
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol how did "daoc proved it didn't work"

2nd most populated western mmo at the time.

Daoc was only "2nd" for a period of 4 months, and even that was neck and neck with UO. FFIX matched it in its first 3 months, and then beat it, and SWG launched with nearly 130% of Daoc's subs at the time.

FFIX is western?

also SWG did have a good launch, but it was in steady competition with daoc for 2nd spot after it bedded in.  

Both games cocked it up with ill conceived expansions of course.

  jimdandy26

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5/21/13 3:41:47 PM#24
Originally posted by ShakyMo

FFIX is western?

also SWG did have a good launch, but it was in steady competition with daoc for 2nd spot after it bedded in.  

Both games cocked it up with ill conceived expansions of course.

Are you just in denial? FFXI had a rather significant western audience. Even Runescape was boasting more than 4 times the subs that Daoc was. Even after that period UO was beating Daoc, and Galaxies kept a solid 50k sub lead, Daoc was never a threat to it sub wise.

As I said before, Daoc can claim "number 2 in the west" for all of a 4 month period, and that is only if you neglect to mention things like Runescape.

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  triton54x

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5/21/13 3:49:52 PM#25

leaving pvp to only one area is dumb theres no surprise in that.

I want to be questing and know that I could be killed at any moment.

and I also have a question.-------  can we not see other the other faction zones or even visit them until we finish with our zones..

and one we did how do the npc of other zones act towards us? doesn't makes much since to me

 

 

 

  Holice

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5/21/13 4:06:03 PM#26
Planetside 1 did great with three faction pvp. Devs should take a lesson from them. Multiple zones to attack, easy access to each zone, and substantial value in capture points. Not too mention being rewarded for completing the job.
  Iselin

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5/21/13 4:17:31 PM#27

Going to the other areas to PvE after level 50 is a kludge that I suspect was motivated more by development expediency than any other consideration.

 

When you develop 3 separate 1-50 leveling areas and keep them apart, you are developing content that will only be seen by 1/3 of the players. Instead of developing many more end game zones, it's much more economical to give limited access to that content at max level. It's not a coincidence that this announcement came at approximately the same time they said that the unique post-50 PVE zones would not be in the game at release. They're coming later. That is what that was all about.

 

They also said that they would develop some in-game stories about why you were now going over there to make it consistent. But we have heard nothing more about that,

 

Being phased there with just other players from your own faction just accentuates the artificial nature of this kludge.

 

The game is designed so that you wouldn't be mixing in PvE with the other 2 factions. This is exactly the way it was done with Dark Age of Camelot in their core servers at least for the first few years. But DAOC being server based, also allowed them to provide a "go anywhere" PVP server, Mordred, where, as Bill correctly guessed, PVP was scattered to the winds and not focused in the RvR zones. Eventually they also created co-op servers with no PvP anywhere...but that was long after the shark had been jumped. I'm guessing the desire was to go back to the original DAoC core design.

 

I won't try to get into their reasons for doing this since people love to argue about whether this separation creates more "realm pride" or if realm pride even exists.

 

But even without getting into the whole realm pride debate, I have been mystified ever since people started to discuss this game why anyone would think that, given that the setting for this MMO is a war between 3 factions, going to the other faction's PvE area is more immersive.  Are we so conditioned by WOW that we think doing it in a more realistic way is less immersive?

 

Let's say that France, Germany and England got involved in a 3-sided war over control of Belgium and the Netherlands. Would it be more likely or less likely for someone from England to go on a bicycle trip through France and Germany while the war was going on? Wouldn't it be likely that as soon as hostilities broke out, the citizens of each respective country would high tail it home on the first flight and not mix all that much?

 

So yeah, it's a kludge that attempts to have its cake and eat it too: the realism of no mixing in PvE is maintained but you can still have your bicycle trip... except you have to do it in the twilight zone. But hey, no content goes to waste this way,

  User Deleted
5/21/13 4:20:28 PM#28

100% in agreement, Bill.  Their implementation of PvP is thwarting the MMO part of the game in so many ways.  Their AvAvA system is the sole reason why so many player interactions are not present.

I play MMOs to be with other players.  In TES:O's version, there will be (roughly) 2/3 of the player population I can NOT interact with.  well... unless I want to fight them :)  Is combat so important these days?

And the NPCs of other factions sprinkled throughout Tamriel is truly immersion breaking.  *WE* (the players) can not do this because of "faction pride", aka: faction hate.  Yet here are NPCs of the SAME hated races/factions living quite comfortably within enemy territory?  That is too much of a stretch for my vivid and healthy imagination.

All because of AvAvA...

  ShakyMo

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5/21/13 4:34:38 PM#29
Iselin
Because I suspect for most of these people wow was their first mmo and their impressions of daoc are based upon gw2s extremely gamey and artificial homage to it.
  dyermaker714

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5/21/13 5:38:47 PM#30
Wow :/...I am no longer excited for this game
  Yamota

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5/21/13 6:05:38 PM#31

"I’m very excited about the prospect of key members of the Dark Age of Camelot team designing Elder Scrolls Online Cyrodiil “Alliance vs. Alliance” warfare."

The exact same thing was said about Warhammer Online and how did that game's RvR turned out?

 

  ShakyMo

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5/21/13 6:12:07 PM#32
Really dyer?

This is the first time you have heard this?
Have you been on a 6 month expedition up the amazon?
  Tierless

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5/21/13 6:50:53 PM#33
Oh gawd, they did the FPS approach here and tacked two different game "modes" into one game. This concerns me greatly.

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  Aldous.Huxley

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5/21/13 7:04:01 PM#34
No open world PvP?

/fartnoise /thumbsdown
  BeansnBread

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5/21/13 7:09:58 PM#35
Originally posted by Iselin

Let's say that France, Germany and England got involved in a 3-sided war over control of Belgium and the Netherlands. Would it be more likely or less likely for someone from England to go on a bicycle trip through France and Germany while the war was going on? Wouldn't it be likely that as soon as hostilities broke out, the citizens of each respective country would high tail it home on the first flight and not mix all that much?

It might not be very likely that people would go on a bicycle trip into enemy territory, but when 3 nations go to war over a piece of territory, those countries tend to poked and prodded and invaded by whoever has the strongest military. Once a war like that actually starts, anything can happen including any one of the three countries getting completely conquered by any one of the other two.

 

The main fault, as I see it, of this three realm segregated system is that it's overly gamey. Trying to make it sound MORE realistic than other iterations of a war simulations seems so ridiculous to me. It' better to argue that it is superior as a game system than actually trying to compare it to a real war in my opinion. 

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  dyermaker714

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5/21/13 7:11:55 PM#36
@ShakyMo
Haha I guess so
  Hycoo

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5/21/13 7:14:35 PM#37

What interests me the most about Cyrodiil is how much it will resemble open world PvP.

People seem to think of Cyrodiil as only a PvP zone, but we know for a fact that there will be many public dungeons, PvE quests and gathering resources unique to this zone.

Cyrodiil seem to have a nice mix of activities to do, and given its sheer size, will hopefully give a lot of random encounters and replayability, maybe not far away from open world PvP as seen in other games.

  ShakyMo

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5/21/13 7:14:42 PM#38
Tierless
No that is what wow style mmos do.

Let's pretend where a shooter with lobby game pvp.

And perhaps chuck a few servers in their where we just flick a pvp on switch and expect great pvp to just magically happen.

But again I suspect your options are formed based on gw2, where it is pretty much 2 separate games.
  BeansnBread

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5/21/13 7:30:43 PM#39
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Tierless
No that is what wow style mmos do.

Let's pretend where a shooter with lobby game pvp.

And perhaps chuck a few servers in their where we just flick a pvp on switch and expect great pvp to just magically happen.

But again I suspect your options are formed based on gw2, where it is pretty much 2 separate games.

ESO is just going to flip a switch and expect great PvP to just magically happen. What is the difference between having 3 factions that never see each other EVER unless in PvP and having 3 factions that never see each other EVER unless in PvP? There is no difference. Everyone uses the same classes and skills with perhaps some weak racial differences. Why does leveling through a different quest line in PvE make any difference? They are both equally gamey and ridiculous.

 

Basically you can take what GW2 did and apply it nearly perfectly to what ESO is doing. The only difference is that in ESO your race is determined by what faction you pick. At least in GW2's version of RvR you aren't forced into race selection based on factors like what faction your friends/guild play on. It just looks like ESO is even more artificially restricted than GW2 if anything.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  keithian

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5/21/13 8:13:46 PM#40
I like what they came up with and have no issues with the rationale the article stated could be the reasons behind it. It may be to the dislike of the ganker hardcore PVPers, but it will still satisfy a large group of PVPers while pleasing the PVE crowd that like me likes to dabble in PVP.

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