Trending Games | Landmark | Skyforge | Camelot Unchained | Hearthstone

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,919,778 Users Online:0
Games:760  Posts:6,310,304
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

News & Features Discussion  » [Column] Elder Scrolls Online: On Cyrodiil as World PvP

5 Pages 1 2 3 4 5 » Search
92 posts found
  SBFord

Associate Editor - News Manager

Joined: 6/28/10
Posts: 14188

 
OP  5/20/13 3:47:17 PM#1

The Elder Scrolls Online team has made some interesting decisions when it comes to the game's PvP content. In our latest ESO column, we take a look at the pros and cons of those decisions. See if you agree (or disagree) with our thinking before joining the discussion in the comments.

As I said above, I’m pretty excited that a lot of the folks who once worked on Dark Age of Camelot’s RvR are heading up the team working on Elder Scrolls Online AvA. Brian Wheeler was one of the ingredients that made the magic happen in DAOC.  He was also part of the WAR team, but we can’t put that game’s failings on one man’s shoulders, so we’ll just sidestep it and chalk it up as a learning process.  At least we know ESO will have three factions as opposed to the inherently broken two.

Read more of Bill Murphy's Elder Scrolls Online: On Cyrodiil as World PvP.

Associate Editor: MMORPG.com
Follow me on Twitter: @MMORPGMom

  ZedTheRock

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/15/13
Posts: 175

5/21/13 1:14:26 PM#2

3 factions will always be the better choice and contrary to anyone' opinion, just because PvP is segregated off into its own zone doesn't make i any less world PvP.

 

Wish people would understand there is Instanced PvP, which what most people think of is when they say "GW2, DAoC or TESO doesn't have world PvP". Then there is Zoned PvP then there is open world PvP.

SUP

  Nanfoodle

Elite Member

Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3709

5/21/13 1:23:55 PM#3
Awesome, thanks for the info =-)
  Orrionka

Novice Member

Joined: 9/30/07
Posts: 19

5/21/13 1:58:41 PM#4

I'm just grateful for the 3 faction AvA.

Everything else is secondary to me. Now, if the fighting measures up to DAoC I'll be one happy camper!

  apocoluster

Novice Member

Joined: 4/15/07
Posts: 1305

\m/,

5/21/13 2:09:01 PM#5
*shakes fist at happy camper* I got sniped so many times in DAoC :)

No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin

  jimdandy26

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/28/12
Posts: 559

5/21/13 2:14:30 PM#6
What makes 3 factions any less broken than 2?

I did battle with ignorance today, and ignorance won.

To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled - because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too cowardly to exercise it. The virtues which cloak these faults are called patience and forbearance.

  IV_Talek

Novice Member

Joined: 7/05/10
Posts: 7

5/21/13 2:22:26 PM#7
So no other pvp options instead of crappy zerg vs zerg vs zerg? I just lost my interest... Wildstar now are our only hope for good MMO with MMO content, not single/co-op rpg published as MMO.
  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

5/21/13 2:25:54 PM#8
It won't be anything like as good as daoc pvp wise.

Still I expect it to have better pvp than wow clone games like Wildstar.
  Dahkoht

Novice Member

Joined: 4/03/13
Posts: 289

5/21/13 2:26:02 PM#9
Ill likely still play it as enjoyed DAOC also , but my favorite PVP battles have always been I impromptu ones like Tarren Mill escalation mass fights in vanilla WoW , or east common fights raging on the Zek servers in original EQ before that.

There's just something about a battle being able to break out most any where in the game world that makes true world PVP more fun for me.
  krage

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/22/11
Posts: 416

5/21/13 2:26:14 PM#10

3 factions used to work with the other generations of MMO gamers for some reason. Now if you watch the most modern 3 way largescale pvp game (GW2) you will see how the newer generations of MMOers (WoW and newer) treat 3 way matches.

3 way should be balanced by having the two lower/weaker realms working together to take out the top realm in the match, however in todays mmo culture I have noticed it usually devolves into the bottom two contenders fighting each other just to avoid "losing" or last place while the top realm/faction ends up widening the gap.

In my example I am referring to GW2 mainly since that is the newest game to try the 3 way method, perhaps the GW2 flaw was from ranking the realms which makes it super competitive and no one wants to drop down tiers due to pride over having epic battles.

For me 3 way battles are still not done right and personally I think TESO should avoid any kind of ranking system to hopefully let 3 way matches have the intended balance outcome and not a ranking race. 

  karat76

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/22/06
Posts: 1011

Greatest threat to society is letting casualties of puberty reproduce.

5/21/13 2:30:59 PM#11
DAoC's RvR was the only form of pvp i ever enjoyed so this is a plus in my book. I can also deal with not seeing the opposing faction as no good can come of it. Too many people playing mmos for it not to be flooded by newbie ganking or harassing jerks with names that break immersion. I hope they have a very strict naming policy for players and guilds. No Ipwnus,EL33ts or urmomismyepicmount.
  BMBender

Novice Member

Joined: 9/14/07
Posts: 559

5/21/13 2:31:34 PM#12

Probably all those points were raised in design meetings.  I would hazard to guess there was at least one more point raised.  The core IP they are basing the game off of was pure exploration/single player.  Even modded there were never any pvp maps, activities.  If they wanted to tap that potential market (and one would assume they do since they used that IP) in any meaningful way a pure pvp focus would probably have defeated it.

 

Consider the debate when basic systems and pvp were announced, at least 1/3 of participants from various media stated they weren't even going to give the game a glance, let alone try it out.  Like I said I'm sure that was a factor of their thinking.

  Zutch

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/06/12
Posts: 36

5/21/13 2:37:45 PM#13
totally ...3 is just retarded
  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

5/21/13 2:41:25 PM#14
Krage

You summed gw2 up perfectly with the wors "match"

That's the problem with WvW, its too artificial and "gamey". It does indeed feel like a "big battleground", like all the "wow owpvp was the best" people like go point out. The best thing they could do for WvW is to get rid of the tournament element and the leaderboards, they should also make the maps more natural, eater than like a huge wow battleground with their symmetrical layouts.

Rvr done right like daoc and planetside 1 doesn't feel like that, it feels much more organic.
  Exittium

Novice Member

Joined: 3/13/13
Posts: 9

5/21/13 2:56:52 PM#15
Originally posted by IV_Talek
So no other pvp options instead of crappy zerg vs zerg vs zerg? I just lost my interest... Wildstar now are our only hope for good MMO with MMO content, not single/co-op rpg published as MMO.

Yes you're so right, another wow clone rip-off is what we need... *smh, just go back and play wow... tired of these trolls who love these wow spin offs... because in a weeks time they'll while and say it's not wow and be right back in wow..

  Mithrundir

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/15/06
Posts: 334

5/21/13 3:58:56 PM#16
While I love large scale pvp myself, I have to agree that removing pvp with other factions out of Cyrodiil just seems like a way to cater to pvpers and pve'ers without choosing one over the other. This is why I'm looking forward to CU so much, as a hardcore pvper atleast I know where they stand.

Dozens of MMO's, RTS's, FPS's, etc.

  eric_w66

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/12/06
Posts: 1009

5/21/13 4:00:56 PM#17

"At least we know ESO will have three factions as opposed to the inherently broken two."

 

So instead of the inherently broken two, we have the inherently broken three. What an upgrade. This game needs to ditch the separate area/alliances idea, and go with 1 "server" with open world PvP, and one without. Those who want to PvP all the time can go to one and do their thing, and those who don't can go to the other and do their thing.

 

Developers always want to tie end game PvP into getting endgame PvE stuff because of the lack of participation that normally comes when you try to force people to PvP when they don't want to. DAOC proved it didn't work, yet those devs are still trying to come to grips why.

  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

5/21/13 4:15:10 PM#18
Lol how did "daoc proved it didn't work"

2nd most populated western mmo at the time.
  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

5/21/13 4:17:18 PM#19
Also, while I find it arcadey, lots and lots of people play WvW.

Then you've got ps2, which has 3/4 million unique logins per week according to sonys march report.

So there Is definetly a market for 3 sided pvp.
  jimdandy26

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/28/12
Posts: 559

5/21/13 4:23:35 PM#20
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol how did "daoc proved it didn't work"

2nd most populated western mmo at the time.

Daoc was only "2nd" for a period of 4 months, and even that was neck and neck with UO. FFIX matched it in its first 3 months, and then beat it, and SWG launched with nearly 130% of Daoc's subs at the time.

I did battle with ignorance today, and ignorance won.

To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled - because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too cowardly to exercise it. The virtues which cloak these faults are called patience and forbearance.

5 Pages 1 2 3 4 5 » Search