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  NegativeX

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Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 100

5/20/13 1:29:42 PM#61
Originally posted by neviu
yea the exploit been going on for some time they where to ignorant to fix,

 

This keeps being repeated across all forums but no one has provided any proof to this effect.

One person said it, which then was repeated and is now known as fact, when in reality, it's likely not.

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  Torvaldr

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5/20/13 1:30:53 PM#62
Originally posted by BadOrb

So we have learnt something new then. Don't have real money transactions in a beta game. You see a game in the beta stage of it's life is in fact not complete , therefore having real money flying around an unfinished product is not the way to go. Hopefully people will learn from this , dev's and users alike. Just don't do it! Or at least if you can join a beta stage in a game don't part with your money until they claim their game is a full and final release.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

I don't know why some people have such a hard time with this.  If you aren't willing to risk the time and money then don't do it.  People aren't willing to test the game unless their progress is saved.

What isn't quite so clear is what sort of agenda these "must wipe" people have that they are taking such a strong position.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Tredo

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Joined: 5/17/04
Posts: 192

5/20/13 1:34:16 PM#63
Originally posted by Cochran1
As I read thread upon thread about this I have to wonder, if this exploit truly did exist 3 or more weeks ago why did it not turn into this massive spectacle it is before yesterday? According to posts everyone knew about it, or better yet they heard that it apparently existed since closed beta. I haven't seen many of these posts claiming they actually knew about the exploit and reported it before yesterday. It leads me to conclude that it existed only a few days and that most are simply jumping on the hearsay bandwagon regurgitating what they've read over the past few days.

I was in the first weekend beta test, the -money AH bug was there then. I will not go into the details of how this works. You can see my posts on FP / Twitter / and the forums at NW. I am a huge advocate for the game. Huge D&D fan. But to not wipe the servers is  a total lack of responsibility on Cryptic / PWI part.

 

I have found numerous posts with SS where the report for the bugs and exploits were reported as far back as 16 days, which is a few days after this "soft launch" started!

 

It was there, still is there in some cases that I again will not go into. I am not an exploiter, never have been in any game, never will be. It ruins the game and the fun, and what would I be teaching my kids that play with me if you cheat to play the game! Not everyone that reports hacks / exploits / cheats is a cheater. Believe it or not, there are still some gamers from the EQ days in the late 90's that play for the love of the game.

  Squeak69

Novice Member

Joined: 1/21/13
Posts: 959

cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

5/20/13 1:36:03 PM#64
Originally posted by NegativeX
Originally posted by neviu
yea the exploit been going on for some time they where to ignorant to fix,

 

This keeps being repeated across all forums but no one has provided any proof to this effect.

One person said it, which then was repeated and is now known as fact, when in reality, it's likely not.

actully the reason for this not being widely known is most people who found out about it where smart enough to keep it under wraps from going public, cause of the profit like tis, exploit bugs like this that are not obvoius tend to sneak past notice for a very long time,

whats more the way the exploit works is something that you would have to do on accident to even get to happen, if it hadnt been posted in the main forum it wouldd still prob be under the cover for a few more weeks, as long as people where smart about it,

after all its not like cryptic games have stable econmeys to begin with

 

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  Tredo

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Joined: 5/17/04
Posts: 192

5/20/13 1:41:34 PM#65

Oh and those that were looking for some proof... here ya go!!

 

http://s17.postimg.org/tu8qd0cyn/lolfail.jpg

 

and still that it came from the same code that runs STO... here ya go again

 

http://i.imgur.com/oA6Z8.jpg

 

Here is the link to the forum posts that goes into detail and talks about it.

 

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?269152-Proof-that-exploit-existed-since-day-1-and-was-reported

 

So before you start claiming some wild ass ideas, might want to get your facts straight about whos running around make up rumors and jumping on any band wagons!!

  Tredo

Novice Member

Joined: 5/17/04
Posts: 192

5/20/13 1:43:28 PM#66
Originally posted by Squeak69
Originally posted by NegativeX
Originally posted by neviu
yea the exploit been going on for some time they where to ignorant to fix,

 

This keeps being repeated across all forums but no one has provided any proof to this effect.

One person said it, which then was repeated and is now known as fact, when in reality, it's likely not.

actully the reason for this not being widely known is most people who found out about it where smart enough to keep it under wraps from going public, cause of the profit like tis, exploit bugs like this that are not obvoius tend to sneak past notice for a very long time,

whats more the way the exploit works is something that you would have to do on accident to even get to happen, if it hadnt been posted in the main forum it wouldd still prob be under the cover for a few more weeks, as long as people where smart about it,

after all its not like cryptic games have stable econmeys to begin with

 

It was posted on the forums many times, they kept deleting the posts and had to make a sticky post of their own about posting detailed info on exploits and bugs... here it is http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?228181-Security-Advisory-Note-on-Trolling-No-Detailing-Exploits!-(READ!)

 

And that post was made on the 11th of May, so saying they didn't know about it for weeks is the biggest load of shit on the inet right now.

  Toxic2k

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/18/12
Posts: 17

5/20/13 1:52:45 PM#67

Someone asked "why all of this started yesterday?". Because they banned Kripp yesterday almost for nothing. Check the end of his video, he mentions something about negative bids.

  BillMurphy

Managing Editor

Joined: 7/28/06
Posts: 1655

5/20/13 1:53:56 PM#68
Originally posted by Toxic2k

Because they banned Kripp https://www.youtube.com yesterday almost for nothing. Check the end of his video, he mentions something about negative bids.

Our inquiry for further details has been passed on for further clarification from the devs.  Let's hope they get back to me soon.

  wordiz

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/13/12
Posts: 481

5/20/13 3:26:59 PM#69
There are plenty more to fix still. Without at least another two months of beta and wipe...it's too late for me on this one. 

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  flizzer

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/10/12
Posts: 1031

5/20/13 3:27:16 PM#70
So you scammed $460 and feel happy about the game now.  Okay, have fun.  
  Ozmodan

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6561

5/20/13 3:36:25 PM#71

This is really typical of both Cryptic and PW.  I am not surprised at all.  I just cannot believe people are so gullible as to think this game is worth spending money on.   Get your fun out of the game and then get out.  If you are foolish enough to spend money, all I can say is it must be nice to have money to throw away.

I did have fun playing the game, but what is the point of developing a character when sticking around requires dumping a lot of money in the game?

This game is an outright money sink.  

  SupportPlayerMM

Novice Member

Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 335

5/20/13 4:30:00 PM#72
Originally posted by Ozmodan

This is really typical of both Cryptic and PW.  I am not surprised at all.  I just cannot believe people are so gullible as to think this game is worth spending money on.   Get your fun out of the game and then get out.  If you are foolish enough to spend money, all I can say is it must be nice to have money to throw away.

I did have fun playing the game, but what is the point of developing a character when sticking around requires dumping a lot of money in the game?

This game is an outright money sink.  

I paid for the D&D license... I got raped...

  Deeter

Novice Member

Joined: 3/14/04
Posts: 136

5/20/13 6:13:12 PM#73

Well this game died fast

  CyclopsSlayer

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/31/04
Posts: 531

5/20/13 6:26:43 PM#74

Yeah, a 7 hour rollback is gonna make it ALLLL better!  Let's not mention the days of reports and petitions prior to this 7 hour window. And they still won't comment on Boss respawning exploits, gear set bonuses that are insanely bugged, any one of innumerable other issues...

Put a stake in it, this game is toast...

  CyclopsSlayer

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/31/04
Posts: 531

5/20/13 6:33:16 PM#75
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Toxic2k

Because they banned Kripp https://www.youtube.com yesterday almost for nothing. Check the end of his video, he mentions something about negative bids.

Our inquiry for further details has been passed on for further clarification from the devs.  Let's hope they get back to me soon.

Although I am sure they won't mention it themselves, this exploit seems to be a near exact duplicate of the one affecting that other PWI/Cryptic game Star Trek Online. STO also had a negative bid exploit so apparently their coders didn't learn from the mistake and just had to go and do it all over again...

  Sourajit

Novice Member

Joined: 3/21/07
Posts: 386

Lets try it.

5/20/13 6:33:34 PM#76

It was repaired ?

Am I gonna believe that ?

Well NO !!!

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  sylum69

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Joined: 5/04/05
Posts: 92

5/20/13 7:04:31 PM#77
I'm still a little unclear on what exactly the exploit was. Can anyone be so kind as spoon feed me what happened? From what I understand this was about buying Astral Diamonds. What were people doing exactly?
  Doomedfox

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Joined: 4/01/10
Posts: 689

5/20/13 7:13:24 PM#78
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by BillMurphy

We reached out to Cryptic directly, and are awaiting a response.

"Open beta" or not, this is pretty suspect.

 It is suspect as they didn't fix anything!  They just plugged the hole and brought the service back online as fast as they could. All for the bottom line. Profitting!

1. The 7 hour rollback is a joke and nothing more than a token action. Pure for PR purposes. Especially since this exploit became Public at least 24 hours prior to the servers being taken Down! So People have been mass exploiting this for a hell lot longer than 7 hours!

2. The exploit existed since OBT started and the smart ones have been exploiting this very carefully and using tons of mule accounts to launder everything away.

3. They now gave out some perma bans. Again, just a token action for PR purposes, as only the Extreme cases of the last couple hours prior to shut Down got this perma ban. Most got away With just a 72 hour suspension! Absolutely hilarious, as it just means the ones that have been exploiting this the most and done so for weeks keep all their AD and get away With it. All due to the amount of accounts they have been using to spread it out.

But the most disturbing thing of this all, is how it all Plays directly in PWE's favor!

1. The AD/Zen Exchange ratio is back to 500 to 1 !

2. All Zen is gone, so People have to repopulate the AD/Zen Exchange With Zen again With "REAL" Money!

No matter how the most die hard fans try to Slice this. No matter how PWE and Cryptic try to PR spin this.  It's a Financial win/win situation for PWE's bottomline! Profit!

I agree it could be a nice Financial win/win for them but if i can get more AD for my Zen again  than i win too.

My money  is worth more again thats a positive thing.

Its really only bad for the ppl who don't want to spend any real money to play and well i honestly don't care about them.

  Alverant

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Joined: 3/12/07
Posts: 284

5/20/13 10:43:07 PM#79
Originally posted by Ozmodan

This is really typical of both Cryptic and PW.  I am not surprised at all.  I just cannot believe people are so gullible as to think this game is worth spending money on.   Get your fun out of the game and then get out.  If you are foolish enough to spend money, all I can say is it must be nice to have money to throw away.

I did have fun playing the game, but what is the point of developing a character when sticking around requires dumping a lot of money in the game?

This game is an outright money sink.  

Don't you think having fun is worth spending some money? Just take take take and never thinking of giving.

  Alverant

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Joined: 3/12/07
Posts: 284

5/20/13 10:44:48 PM#80
I'm enjoying the game and having fun. I just bought the founder's pack so far but if I continue to have fun, I'll think about buying something else. My time is valuable so if something is worth my time, then it's worth some money.
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