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  Boardwalker

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5/20/13 3:04:56 PM#21

"The other benefit to this change is that it allows players who are mainly geared with PvE items to have the opportunity to be viable in PvP situations."

 

What about the reverse situation? Can players who wear only PvP armor be viable in PvE? When I play WoW, I only PvP. But perhaps there will come a time where I want to PvE. Will I start way behind the curve with my PvP armor? (Unlike the PvE'ers who suddenly decide to PvP and will do just fine)

They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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  Homitu

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5/20/13 3:15:04 PM#22
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Panzerbase
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Why is it that every WoW article brings in the "WoW sucks" crowd. If you don't like the game, don't comment. Nobody gives a damn if you don't like the game. All you are doing sharing your negative vibes.

I guess you misunderstand the word forum.

Nope. I understand the word just fine. My question is more about what is it that just DRIVES the haters to go out of their way to post negative comments in a game they no longer or never did play. The story has nothing to do with "hey, do you like wow?" yet the first dozen posts are people proclaiming why they feel that WoW is bad and why they quit.

 

Do you really not know the answers to that, or are you just venting?

  ComputerJuice

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5/20/13 4:22:38 PM#23
AT LAST!  God i have been waiting for this... Finally more dailies to do! 
  DonVadim

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5/20/13 4:26:11 PM#24
Originally posted by McGamer
Originally posted by TpsArchangel
The point of all? i have played WoW fpr 6 years and when they decided that should be more "noob" friendly i said buh bye.

Guess what pal, you were new at one point also. It's people like this that ruin a gaming community by degrading other players. 

Noob != newbie

You can be playing the game for 5 years and still be a total noob.

Newbie is someone who is simply new to the game, he isn't automatically a noob because of that.

I'm sorry to say but people who doesn't understand simple gaming terminology are the ones who ruin gaming community.

 

Also I agree with person you quoted - I don't like that WoW is becoming more and more NOOB friendly aswell.

  Chrisbox

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5/20/13 5:55:43 PM#25
If anything will make the rage crew come back it will be in the next expansion, 5.3 and 5.4 will not grab your interest so until then there is no need to place such comments in this forum.  However maybe 5.4 will now that im thinking about it, because there is that "big un-announced feature" coming.  

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  SaviorsHand

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5/20/13 6:57:41 PM#26
A plethora? Really... a plethora? Jefe,  I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is...

  Slorg

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5/20/13 7:17:12 PM#27
Patch seems interesting enough, kind of wish they added new dungeons or something with it. While i like the every two or so months you get a new patch, these baby patches aren't all that exciting.
  strangiato2112

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5/20/13 7:36:23 PM#28
Originally posted by Slorg
Patch seems interesting enough, kind of wish they added new dungeons or something with it. While i like the every two or so months you get a new patch, these baby patches aren't all that exciting.

wouldnt exactly call it a baby patch, though its obviously nowhere near as big as 5.2 (which was pretty enormous)

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

What WoW has put out in the 7 months since Cata is pretty impressive, they are quite easily the number one game currently at putting out content.  Of course they should be with their financial resources.

I have a feeling there is going to be an expansion announcement a LOT sooner than people are expecting.  I wouldnt be shocked to see it launch this year.

Theyve said they plan to fix the whole huge gap between last patch and new expansion, and 5.4 will be here by august at the latest...

  Nitth

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5/20/13 7:38:21 PM#29


Originally posted by TpsArchangel
The point of all? i have played WoW fpr 6 years and when they decided that should be more "noob" friendly i said buh bye.

Then you would of only been playing for 3 years...


Most players are from asia anyway who pay 5 cent per hour.

I really wish people would back this up with sources and facts because its becoming very tiring listening to made up facts.


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  jbombard

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5/20/13 7:46:45 PM#30

The game has been making bad decision after bad decision lately.  

 

No catch up dungeons+tons of LFR wings+everybody needing different loot=players queues are split across too many queues=long ass queues only getting longer everytime a new raid wing comes out.

 

Replacing a broken talent tree with a couple talent toggles instead of fixing what was wrong with the original system, ended up with talent choices being completely meaningless.

 

The game already only took a week to get from 85-90, and now they speed that up?  Being alt friendly is not about how fast you can level up alts, it is about how enjoyable the process is and how time consuming "homework" on your main is.

 

When I log in to play my main, I don't want the queue to be longer than than the little fun part at the end.  If most of my time playing is spent in queues, and just killing time to doing boring repetitive tasks until then, I don't feel like logging on.  There needs to be other avenues of casual character progression, and they all need to have similar time sinks for similar rewards.   The new heroic scenarios are great, but there is still no reason to do dungeons.  When they fix all this, maybe I will resub.  I get that they are trying hard, but with the underlying problems staying the same, them trying hard doesn't make the game worth playing.  Fixing the fundamental design flaw does.

  Calerxes

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5/20/13 7:56:55 PM#31
Originally posted by possessed1
Have to agree with TPS; the butchering of the skill tree and generalized 'simplification' just did me in, ticked me off -- no loyalty us longtimers; expansion is  good news for those sticking with it and hope they enjoy it, but I won't go back, even for the chance to kill Garrosh.

 

Genuine question..

 

When was WoW ever not a simplified game? I played back in the TBC era and it was a pretty simple game then though it wasn't until I played other MMO's that this fact was really brought home.

 

 

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  Hokie

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Hey Devs, just so you know. The more you give us to play with, the more we play.

5/20/13 8:09:11 PM#32

The only somewhat good news was that resilience was removed from gear. In my opinion a stat that was "over-used and over-powered", and more or less fucked open-world PvP and forced people in Arena PvP when it was added.

And then I read they gave everyone a base 65% instead.

 

Which means, because I know Blizzard, you'll start to see a 2% and then a 3% and then a 5% resilience start to creep back onto gear again.

 

*Shrug*

 

Nope, like others have said, "I'll pass"

Sadly not the game I really used to enjoy playing.

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  strangiato2112

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5/20/13 8:13:35 PM#33
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by possessed1
Have to agree with TPS; the butchering of the skill tree and generalized 'simplification' just did me in, ticked me off -- no loyalty us longtimers; expansion is  good news for those sticking with it and hope they enjoy it, but I won't go back, even for the chance to kill Garrosh.

 

Genuine question..

 

When was WoW ever not a simplified game? I played back in the TBC era and it was a pretty simple game then though it wasn't until I played other MMO's that this fact was really brought home.

 

 

 

BC era WoW blows the overly simplistic games like Rift and SWToR out of the water.

EQ2 and LOTRO are the only WoWish themeparks that have some depth to em.

  Calerxes

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5/20/13 8:22:04 PM#34
Originally posted by strangiato2112
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by possessed1
Have to agree with TPS; the butchering of the skill tree and generalized 'simplification' just did me in, ticked me off -- no loyalty us longtimers; expansion is  good news for those sticking with it and hope they enjoy it, but I won't go back, even for the chance to kill Garrosh.

 

Genuine question..

 

When was WoW ever not a simplified game? I played back in the TBC era and it was a pretty simple game then though it wasn't until I played other MMO's that this fact was really brought home.

 

 

 

BC era WoW blows the overly simplistic games like Rift and SWToR out of the water.

EQ2 and LOTRO are the only WoWish themeparks that have some depth to em.

 

Well that didn't really answer the question did it?

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  Hokie

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Hey Devs, just so you know. The more you give us to play with, the more we play.

5/20/13 8:27:15 PM#35
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by possessed1
Have to agree with TPS; the butchering of the skill tree and generalized 'simplification' just did me in, ticked me off -- no loyalty us longtimers; expansion is  good news for those sticking with it and hope they enjoy it, but I won't go back, even for the chance to kill Garrosh.

 

Genuine question..

 

When was WoW ever not a simplified game? I played back in the TBC era and it was a pretty simple game then though it wasn't until I played other MMO's that this fact was really brought home.

 

 

 

WOW was as a simple of game as you wanted to make it. And that is why they exploded with subs.

You didnt have to know about stats to play the game, you didnt have to know about MMO's to play the game. You didnt have to know about min/maxing or even that a warrior in chain was a bad idea.

You could play the game from level 1 thru 40 and not know any of that. WoW wasnt designed to punish the newbi.

 

As you played you learned that Str was good. And plate was good. And food buffs were good. And enchants were good. and green armor and weapons were good and blue was even better. And so on.

 

But guess what you didnt need to know any of that to actually play the game and level. And that was the power of WoW. Thats what other developers didnt understand. WoW was as simple or as complicated as the player wanted to make it.

 

Wanted to learn to run dungeons? You had to learn stats.

Wanted to raid? You had to learn enchants, potions, buffs and resistances.

 

A game that was newby friendly to hardcore raid challenging, all in one.

Thats why they (Blizzard) got people who never played video games much less MMO's to play, and then stay.

 

 

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  Raventree

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5/20/13 9:30:47 PM#36
Nothing could make me go back to WoW, short of some kind of PVP revolution with siege warfare and guild wars.  Just thinking about it gives me a depressed feeling in the pit of my stomach.  Maybe Titan will offer something new and awesome, but WoW is old and tired I'm just too burned out on it.

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  muffins89

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5/20/13 10:52:16 PM#37
Originally posted by Raventree
Nothing could make me go back to WoW, short of some kind of PVP revolution with siege warfare and guild wars. 

they've had "guild wars" for almost 2 years now.  they're called rated battle-grounds.

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  bubaluba

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5/20/13 10:54:52 PM#38
I still enjoy in wow, this could be  awesome change. Until Blizzard make some new mmo i stay faithful to Eve and WOW , this duo gives me everything what i need.
  Br3akingDawn

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5/20/13 11:06:12 PM#39
Do something right and go out with a bang. Go F2P and just focus working on the next big MMO.

  User Deleted
5/20/13 11:40:23 PM#40

I'd try comingback if the only cost was the expansion, they need to adapt to the rest of the market before it's too late and they lose the rest of their numbers.

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