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  SpottyGekko

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5/19/13 5:47:05 PM#21

I would be delighted if Wildstar launched as a P2P game. I'd happily pay $20 a month to play it.

 

Just please, please don't let it be a MMORPG built to launch as purely F2P, because then I wouldn't want to play it...

  Siphaed

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5/19/13 5:56:58 PM#22
Originally posted by SoMuchMass
Originally posted by Siphaed
 

You're a fool....a fool's fool, to  believe that subscriptions have "perks and fun stuff" compared to non-sub games.   Compare the monthly content updates of a game like Guild Wars 2 to a game like WoW.   There's far more content updates in an not-so-polished, less than a year old game than there have been for an 8 year old, well polished game.  Why is that? Where's the value in the subscription based game if a non-sub game can push out more content updates in a shorter amount of time for just the cost of the box as entry.

GW2 is a bad example of a B2P game.  They launched incomplete with features people expect in modern MMOs.  They don't have dueling, dungeon finder, Battleground finder, UI customization etc.  It was probably due to their limited funds and payment model.

GW2 was launched with 8 dungeons and 1 PvP sPvP mode.  That is extremely behind most modern MMOs, including Tera which had 16 at launch.  Even if GW2 released a dungeon a month it was behind in "content".  But their "content" has mostly been bug fixes.

If WildStar can pull of WoW/Rift style content with a B2P model I would be suprised.  It isn't easy funding a team that can do things like 20 and 40 man raid updates with those models.

 

Those "features" are what raiders expect...what people who are obsessed with the carrot-style dungeon crawl expect.., but they are by no means a requirement or standard. 

 

Battleground finder? Seriously?  For WvWvW, just pick a map and go, and for sPvP there's a full list of every available server, no need for such as WoWish thing that hides it's options behind a 'finder'.

 

Dungeon Finder...they are working on one, but they want to make it semi-perfect to where it's not just gathering non-sociable people and teleporting them to a dungeon without any communication the entire time.  Those things are totally anti-social trash that ruins an MMORPG.

 

Dueling? What's the point of dueling except stretching your epeen in hopes that it's slightly bigger than the next guy's.  Right?  Ya, thought so.  Instead there's custom arenas where players can set up duels if they choose, but in WvW and the rest of the PvE content, where balance is wacked out and not even on a 1vs1 scale, there's no point to duels.

 

Custom UI is another thing of what you want, but by no means a need at all.  As long as a UI is fluid and usable in a set up way, it's fine. Certain parts of the GW2 UI care moveable and customizable, but to a limited extend within the boundries of the game.  [Based on what I've seen from Wildstar's gameplay, it seems that the UI is also going to be fixed.  Remember: 9 abilities total for player's to use on bar at a given time.]

 

So stop trying to imprint your "MMO standards" on to other games and call them failures or bad based on them not meeting what you personally expect.  There are games that are making big changes like GW2 and Wildstar because many of the WoW clones that stuck to those 'standards' have nearly bellied up because of being basically the same thing with a different skin. 

 

GW2 isn't WoW; Wildstar isn't WoW.  Don't like it?  There's the door.  However, Wildstar is similar to GW2 with it's action combat, dynamic environmental events; it has limited abilities on bar, but still gives players enough options during combat.  But that's where the similarities end as Wildstar goes for a more humorous approach, includes housing, keeps the Trinity trope and sticks to a Sci-Fi theme instead of Fantasy.

 

P.S. Why am I even arguing with you? You're the troll on Massively.com that constantly goes into every GW2 article posted and start spamming shit talk left and right. 

  sado2020

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Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is my PVP

5/19/13 6:08:07 PM#23
Personally I'd prefer a B2P model like GW2 or how TSW is now.  But if the game is entertaining as I hope it would be then I wouldn't notice a sub if there was one attached XD

Playing: TSW, D&D NW, Defiance (more the tv show than game >.> ) LotRO, DCUO

  Sinaku

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Posts: 480

5/19/13 6:11:51 PM#24

$20 a month is too steep. 10-15 a month and I'm fine. I dont personally like cash shops or F2P games either. I'd rather it be B2P or P2P. GW2 is the only game that has done B2P correctly that I've played (even though I don't play it anymore). I'm excited for WildStar and will play it regardless of the payment type.

  SoMuchMass

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Joined: 1/16/13
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5/19/13 6:20:30 PM#25
Originally posted by Siphaed
 

Those "features" are what raiders expect...what people who are obsessed with the carrot-style dungeon crawl expect.., but they are by no means a requirement or standard. 

 

So stop trying to imprint your "MMO standards" on to other games and call them failures or bad based on them not meeting what you personally expect.  There are games that are making big changes like GW2 and Wildstar because many of the WoW clones that stuck to those 'standards' have nearly bellied up because of being basically the same thing with a different skin. 

 

GW2 isn't WoW; Wildstar isn't WoW.  Don't like it?  There's the door.  However, Wildstar is similar to GW2 with it's action combat, dynamic environmental events; it has limited abilities on bar, but still gives players enough options during combat.  But that's where the similarities end as Wildstar goes for a more humorous approach, includes housing, keeps the Trinity trope and sticks to a Sci-Fi theme instead of Fantasy.

 

There are standards that people expect, and "not just raiders".  My point is GW2 is a bad example of a B2P system because the game launched without most features people expect in modern day MMOs.  Thankfully WildStar has all of those features, based on interviews and will not launch an incomplete game.

We as consumers need to stop making excuses for games that are launched with sub par content and features because it only hurts the industry.  People expect dungeon finders, they expect to queue for sPvP anywhere in  the world, they except they can customize their UI.  People shouldn't be going to third party sites for these services.

WildStar as a game is the complete OPPOSITE of everything GW2 in terms of the very core game design aspects and thank god for that.  They have 20 and 40 man raids, they have healers, they have mounts, they have the trinity system.  They have progression in both PvP and PvE. They have player factions. They have seamless worlds instead of a series of instances.  They will also launch with features which most AAA have including Dungeon finder.

The only thing WildStar has in common with GW2 is the combat (it isn't action combat it is a hybrid system).  WildStar has more in common with WoW than GW2.

  Jinxys

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5/19/13 6:28:40 PM#26
Originally posted by SoMuchMass
Originally posted by DamonVile

It blows me away that there are ppl out there that think a cash shop selling ANYTHING in a sub game is ok.

Even blizzard has said the age of subs is probably coming to an end. The market has changed.

The "age of subs" have not come to an end.  Millions of people pay subscriptions to most of their services including entertainment (see Netflix).  What has come to an end is people paying subscription to sub par games.

^ This. This is exactly it. Couldn't of said it better myself, Sir. :)

  hellboii

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5/19/13 7:14:48 PM#27
i agree i rather have a good p2p game then a f2p where somehow the gameplay will need to revolve around micro transactions (cause lets face it they wanna make money). rather have all the features for everyone and no pay to win or anything even close to it with a p2p system then previous mention shit you usually get with f2p even if it probably wont be as extreme as i said with pay to win its still gonna do more harm then good for me.
  nerovipus32

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5/19/13 7:16:28 PM#28
Most people these days won't pay a sub for an mmo because they are simply not worth it. if the game is p2p it will be a niche title.
  Myrdynn

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Posts: 1441

5/19/13 7:18:16 PM#29

Box price, DLC, cosmetic shop, housing decorations shop.

 

  bingbongbros

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5/19/13 7:19:59 PM#30
Originally posted by Rinna

I don't want Wildstar to be free to play.  I want their business model to be exactly like WoW's.  Barrier to entry, submission based, almost all perks and fun stuff are part of a monthly sub, other non-game breaking, cosmetic fluff in a cash shop.

I hate F2P games and the AH crash going on right now in Neverwinter is a perfect example of why.  20 bucks a month... sound fair?  Please give me back sub based gaming.

I agree but the sub's have always been just 15 a month. No need to raise it :P

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  ElRenmazuo

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5/19/13 7:26:39 PM#31
Most NCSOFT games are either f2p or b2p, so im betting it will be b2p with cosmetic shop.
  hockeyplayr

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5/19/13 7:32:51 PM#32
I am with you on this one.  I prefer a sub to weed out some of the @#$hats that tend to ruin games.  Won't stop all of them but two barriers to entry take out a good chunk.  As far as I know, aside from guild wars, every game has launched with a box fee + sub
  Yalexy

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5/19/13 7:34:22 PM#33

I'd like it to be subscription aswell, but without box- or expansion-pack prices.

Simply let me download the client with a 7 day trial and if I like it then they can have my $15/month.

Works with EvE, should work with any other solid MMO aswell.

  Smikis

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5/19/13 7:43:55 PM#34

i doubt wildstar will go b2p route, and i dont see how f2p route helps them at all, they are focusing on endgame content and already promised monthly content updates. monthly story dungeons

there are 3 reasons for not playing f2p games

1: far more expensive than p2p

2 : selling advantages

3 : no new content in sight ever

 

personally my biggest would be third, mmo need content content updates or go screw yourself

rift is going f2p, might be first pve endgame focused mmorpg to do so ( well there was lotro, but it wasnt all that big on endgame pve, sure there was/is one ), we will see how rift does, but they said they will sell gear which is just so wrong for all rift stands , they got so many different ways to obtain gear , and even if cash shop gear wont be as good its still wrong, i hope its more a long the lines of wow leveling gear, gear that adds exp bonus and scales with levels, generally weaker than normal blues you get from dungeon but better than greens and always scales with gear, removes need for gear upgrades and reenchanting , wasnt easy to get and only good for multiple alts ,

 

anyway i dont see wildstar going p2p, it have enough hype to know it will sell well, and will retain subs, if it goes f2p in a year or so it will retain sub, but by then it will failed for all it stands, endgame focused mmorpg, noone would call wow endgame focused game as wow is far too lazy with updates, but its only mmorpg apart rift that you could slap such tag , so hopefully wildstar wont fail at retaining players

  Smikis

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5/19/13 7:45:09 PM#35
Originally posted by Yalexy

I'd like it to be subscription aswell, but without box- or expansion-pack prices.

Simply let me download the client with a 7 day trial and if I like it then they can have my $15/month.

Works with EvE, should work with any other solid MMO aswell.

eve used to have client price tag, and no doesnt work or any mmorpg that have content updates, shity mmorpgs doesnt count

  rannox

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5/19/13 7:47:11 PM#36

I have one source as to why this game will be F2P.... Housing.

 

  Yalexy

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5/19/13 7:52:20 PM#37


Originally posted by Smikis

Originally posted by Yalexy I'd like it to be subscription aswell, but without box- or expansion-pack prices. Simply let me download the client with a 7 day trial and if I like it then they can have my $15/month. Works with EvE, should work with any other solid MMO aswell.
eve used to have client price tag, and no doesnt work or any mmorpg that have content updates, shity mmorpgs doesnt count

When I started playing EvE in 2004 there was no initial price. I simply started with the trial and then paid $15/month.

And as of today you don't have a full box-price aswell. First month (aka client-activation) only costs $20 nstead of $15. And yeah, I'd be willing to pay those $5 for the client if the game is good.

And EvE Online has 2 expansions per year, not charging anything, and they have the most expensive server for a MMO to maintain aswell.

  DOGMA1138

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5/19/13 7:52:45 PM#38
Originally posted by rannox

I have one source as to why this game will be F2P.... Housing.

 

So far there is no in game store or any of the usual micro-transaction mechanics in the BETA builds, GW2 had the store quite early so does every other F2P title.

All of the housing items so far are crafted, drops, or quest rewards so although they can have a fluff store ala WoW it won't be their main source of income.

An F2P title needs much more than some book shelves and tables to generate profit from a store, so far i don't see any hint of that being in the game.

  Siphaed

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5/19/13 9:53:34 PM#39
Originally posted by DOGMA1138
Originally posted by rannox

I have one source as to why this game will be F2P.... Housing.

 

So far there is no in game store or any of the usual micro-transaction mechanics in the BETA builds, GW2 had the store quite early so does every other F2P title.

All of the housing items so far are crafted, drops, or quest rewards so although they can have a fluff store ala WoW it won't be their main source of income.

An F2P title needs much more than some book shelves and tables to generate profit from a store, so far i don't see any hint of that being in the game.

Go on the assumptions that any store that they have prepared for the game are not showing in the Public Closed Beta.  Instead assume that there's one in the In House Closed Beta.  Why is that? Because the public, much like yourself, cannot be trusted to keep their traps shut!  

 

Why would they want to advertise something that no matter how miniscule the effect on the game would be, still would bring public outcries and bad press?

 

Questions: 

  1. How many races are currently in the closed Beta? Probably not all them, including the unrevealed ones.
  2. How many character slots does one have during this closed Beta? I'd guess 2-5 at most.
  3. And how about the number of bank/bag slots available?  I'm sure there's some restriction there too.
Get my point?  Things are hidden from the Beta Testers for a reason.  This game WILL have a cash shop with the bare minimum standards of character slots, bank expansions, bag expansions, character customization post-creation, name changes, and so on.  It may take them a while to get them all in there, sometimes 5-12 months, but they'll sure be in there no matter what.

  Demalis

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Joined: 5/12/13
Posts: 134

5/19/13 10:07:57 PM#40
I hear what your saying, but I agree with the op on this one. Obviously there are plans for a cash shop, to make an mmo without one these days is financial suicide.  But I am hoping it is an if all else fails cash shop. Personally I hope they get enough subs, provided their game is fun, to keep the developers and investors happy enough that it does not affect game play. Sure I can budget enough money to multi box and rule in pvp or power level, I don't because it's just no fun.
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