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  Calerxes

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OP  5/18/13 7:27:38 AM#1

With the recent layoffs over at Trion Worlds and the not so good performance of Defiance does Trion Worlds have the capacity of manpower and funds now to finish a proper translation of Archeage for the west?

 

I personally think no and another publisher will have to step up (wait thats the title DUH!). The conversion of Rift will likely get some interest from ex-players and people who haven't played before but as the game is really outdated and mediocre (personal view don't shoot me) this interest will be very short lived and the game will sink back to its present situation quite quickly.DEfiance seems to need a lot of work and is not creating any real buzz with the TV crowd.

 

As a fan of Korean and Asian MMO's I'd like to see this conversion done properly and not rushed and with the lackluster performance of Trion Worlds games Rift, Defiance and the shelved End Of Nations this might be the case to try an inject some needed cash into an ailing company. 

 

 

 

 

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  kevjards

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5/18/13 7:32:33 AM#2
Originally posted by Calerxes

With the recent layoffs over at Trion Worlds and the not so good performance of Defiance does Trion Worlds have the capacity of manpower and funds now to finish a proper translation of Archeage for the west?

 

I personally think no and another publisher will have to step up (wait thats the title DUH!). The conversion of Rift will likely get some interest from ex-players and people who haven't played before but as the game is really outdated and mediocre (personal view don't shoot me) this interest will be very short lived and the game will sink back to its present situation quite quickly.DEfiance seems to need a lot of work and is not creating any real buzz with the TV crowd.

 

As a fan of Korean and Asian MMO's I'd like to see this conversion done properly and not rushed and with the lackluster performance of Trion Worlds games Rift, Defiance and the shelved End Of Nations this might be the case to try an inject some needed cash into an ailing company. 

 

 

 

 

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your maybe reading too mch into the layoffs at trion..its inevitable that companies lay off people after release of a game..they always downsize.its too early in defiances release to come to a conclusion if its a failure or not..i suppose time will tell.

  SpottyGekko

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5/18/13 7:40:21 AM#3

Be careful what you wish for...

 

I'm sure if the price is low enough, someone like PerfectWorld will be delighted to add AA to their growing stable of F2P titles...

  Doogiehowser

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5/18/13 7:42:45 AM#4
Originally posted by kevjards
Originally posted by Calerxes

With the recent layoffs over at Trion Worlds and the not so good performance of Defiance does Trion Worlds have the capacity of manpower and funds now to finish a proper translation of Archeage for the west?

 

I personally think no and another publisher will have to step up (wait thats the title DUH!). The conversion of Rift will likely get some interest from ex-players and people who haven't played before but as the game is really outdated and mediocre (personal view don't shoot me) this interest will be very short lived and the game will sink back to its present situation quite quickly.DEfiance seems to need a lot of work and is not creating any real buzz with the TV crowd.

 

As a fan of Korean and Asian MMO's I'd like to see this conversion done properly and not rushed and with the lackluster performance of Trion Worlds games Rift, Defiance and the shelved End Of Nations this might be the case to try an inject some needed cash into an ailing company. 

 

 

 

 

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your maybe reading too mch into the layoffs at trion..its inevitable that companies lay off people after release of a game..they always downsize.its too early in defiances release to come to a conclusion if its a failure or not..i suppose time will tell.

Downsizing so early into release of game when they have scheduled DLC releases? why more successful games like GW2 never downsize. Something to think about.

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  DMKano

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5/18/13 7:43:09 AM#5

Ridiculous speculation, delivers on doom and gloom, but fails in reality.

Dev studios trim the temps, contractors and redundant positions post launch. Defiance had a hard launch date on 3 platforms, the number of staff hired was simply too high to maintain. The last couple of months prior to launch, they were still hiring aggressively.

One little fact that is missing, Defiance is out of San Diego, AA will be localized out of Redwood city which had no layoffs this time.

But ignore all this, lets all go back to making up more drama.

 

  Tjed

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5/18/13 8:12:38 AM#6
It will be interesting to see how the F2P conversion does in Rift.  It should inject at least some cash into the company and that can only be good for AA.  I guess I'm not as "doom and gloom" and a little more optimistic because I like Trion worlds.  Rift is a good game.  It's certainly not what I'm holding out for in a title that will keep me entertained for years, but it's a solid game that I have had fun in for a few months at a time several times.  I just always liked Trion worlds approach to their customers.  I haven't played Defiance because I'm just not much of an FPS fan, so maybe you're right and I think too highly of Trion worlds.  I guess I'm in the glass half full camp on AA being done by Trion worlds, because I can think of a lot of companies that would be lower on my list. 
  faxnadu

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5/18/13 8:17:01 AM#7
Originally posted by kevjards
Originally posted by Calerxes

With the recent layoffs over at Trion Worlds and the not so good performance of Defiance does Trion Worlds have the capacity of manpower and funds now to finish a proper translation of Archeage for the west?

 

I personally think no and another publisher will have to step up (wait thats the title DUH!). The conversion of Rift will likely get some interest from ex-players and people who haven't played before but as the game is really outdated and mediocre (personal view don't shoot me) this interest will be very short lived and the game will sink back to its present situation quite quickly.DEfiance seems to need a lot of work and is not creating any real buzz with the TV crowd.

 

As a fan of Korean and Asian MMO's I'd like to see this conversion done properly and not rushed and with the lackluster performance of Trion Worlds games Rift, Defiance and the shelved End Of Nations this might be the case to try an inject some needed cash into an ailing company. 

 

 

 

 

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your maybe reading too mch into the layoffs at trion..its inevitable that companies lay off people after release of a game..they always downsize.its too early in defiances release to come to a conclusion if its a failure or not..i suppose time will tell.

excatly, people should stop talk about doom glooms when clearly this is the reason, game finished production no need to keep full team on it for possible expansions and future updates.

  Calerxes

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OP  5/18/13 1:59:49 PM#8
Originally posted by DMKano

Ridiculous speculation, delivers on doom and gloom, but fails in reality.

Dev studios trim the temps, contractors and redundant positions post launch. Defiance had a hard launch date on 3 platforms, the number of staff hired was simply too high to maintain. The last couple of months prior to launch, they were still hiring aggressively.

One little fact that is missing, Defiance is out of San Diego, AA will be localized out of Redwood city which had no layoffs this time.

But ignore all this, lets all go back to making up more drama.

 

 

Or we could make up phony friends from San Diego with the skinny on whats happening to Trion Worlds which contradicts the major MMO news sites?

 

I tried to inject a bit of light hearted "doom and gloom" flavour into a speculation thread as I'm not really that doom and gloom laden. But my opinion is that Trion Worlds haven't been doing well for a while and investors like to have a return on their investments. Last year Raptr did a Rift giveaway similar to the recent one and I thought I'd give the game a second chance and see if the pop was good, its was dead and only had a few hundred players playing at peak on a "medium" server and that was a high pop server and only one other English EU server hit medium. My suspicions where started then but I thought maybe Defiance & End Of Nations would pull them around. 

 

That was until End Of Nations was effectively canceled and I got into Defiance beta and saw the problems there which were then reported in many threads and reviews around the web. The Defiance forum here is dead and for a newly released game that is terrible you get more posts in the TOR, TSW and GW2 forums. I only observe and try to use some common sense to predict the future and I always could be wrong but for me the signs are not good and unless Rift f2p changes Trion Worlds fortunes its going to have an affect on Archeage.

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  psiic

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5/18/13 2:03:52 PM#9

Pfft 

 

Could be worse Archeage could be in the hands of SOE

  Calerxes

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OP  5/18/13 2:07:11 PM#10
Originally posted by psiic

Pfft 

 

Could be worse Archeage could be in the hands of SOE

 

Might be in the hands of no-one soon... pfft

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  NobleNerd

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5/18/13 2:07:36 PM#11
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

Be careful what you wish for...

 

I'm sure if the price is low enough, someone like PerfectWorld will be delighted to add AA to their growing stable of F2P titles...

*Shutter..... Not PW!

I would love to see anyone else other than PW to publish this. I actually would love to play this game when it comes out in the US. I play Neverwinter right now, but because of the massive cash shop pricing and a few other things I do not see myself playing Neverwinter on a regular basis after a month or 2. I would rather see ArchAge go pay2play or sub based than the pick-my-pockets-dry f2p models.

  Sukiyaki

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5/18/13 2:57:12 PM#12
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

Be careful what you wish for...

 

I'm sure if the price is low enough, someone like PerfectWorld will be delighted to add AA to their growing stable of F2P titles...

Hey there's still gpotato if you really want to destroy AA

  MMOExposed

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5/18/13 3:22:39 PM#13
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by psiic

Pfft 

 

Could be worse Archeage could be in the hands of SOE

 

Might be in the hands of no-one soon... pfft

I heard they publish great games. 

  jimdandy26

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5/18/13 3:24:04 PM#14
I still feel that Ncsoft should be publishing it.

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  Smikis

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5/18/13 3:30:48 PM#15

shouldnt fan of asian games wish for half assed translation so game is least changed?

there are games created by solo devs that sometims rivals those studios with 100+, in reality translating isnt hard, one translator, one half assed proramer than can copy paste and you are set

 

only reason studios take years to translate is because of gamers like you, unable to accept differnt cultures or point of view, or that you would fail to understand a meaning in something if it wasnt done in familiar manner , and this whiny topic just proves it

  PAL-18

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5/18/13 3:33:26 PM#16

but what company is worthy of publishing game like this,which is pretty much UO 2000 ?

NASA ?

Warner Bros ?

 

So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.
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  MMOExposed

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5/18/13 3:36:31 PM#17
Originally posted by jimdandy26
I still feel that Ncsoft should be publishing it.

 

No no no, let EA publish it
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  Iselin

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5/18/13 3:36:54 PM#18
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by psiic

Pfft 

 

Could be worse Archeage could be in the hands of SOE

 

Might be in the hands of no-one soon... pfft

Nah, I think EA will step-up and save them just like they saved Mythic and Bioware 

  MMOExposed

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5/18/13 3:37:32 PM#19
Originally posted by PAL-18

but what company is worthy of publishing game like this,which is pretty much UO 2000 ?

NASA ?

Warner Bros ?

 

 

UO 2000? It's a Sandpark mmo

  PAL-18

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5/18/13 3:38:50 PM#20
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by PAL-18

but what company is worthy of publishing game like this,which is pretty much UO 2000 ?

NASA ?

Warner Bros ?

 

 

UO 2000? It's a THEMEPARK mmo

themepark 2000 in few words,here it comes.

name your character.pres 1 to kill mob,ding and get max level and gear.

is AA like that ? i dont think so.

 

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