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  asdar

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Joined: 11/07/05
Posts: 590

5/18/13 4:49:54 AM#41

This is a good review, look at other MMO sites and they pretty much mirror this. There's more good reviews than bad.


The best thing about Darkfall is the gameplay. Archery and magic are brilliant compared to Tab targetting. That's how he rated it. If you think hitting Tab is more challenging than aiming at a target and possibly hitting your friend in the back then I have no hope for you.


There's some people that can't get used to the controls. They're institutionalized because they've been hitting tab too long and straight key to action controls. Give yourself a good day or two before you form an opinion. Most people get to like the controls.


I'm not a huge fan of melee. It's so much hopping and sprinting. It is challenging and I think better than tab melee by a mile, but I'd much prefer something a bit more methodical and logical such as M&B style.


My second thing would be just to give people an understanding that this was a small dev team. It doesn't have Blizzards money or SoE's huge staff. I don't give them even a half break for the mistakes and slow content added, but I do give them a quarter. A good MMO grows, so I'll give them a chance to grow.


My last point would be that a LOT of reviews are by people that don't like PvP FFA loot games. That's totally understandable, it's jarring the first time to lose gear, especially because almost all games are so loot centric. Gotta get that super weapon or groups won't even let you play with them. Darkfall isn't like that. Gear just doesn't mean that much. If you don't craft at all you'll almost always know someone you can buy gear from cheap or you just ask in guild and get some for supplying the materials. There's still people that won't like the, PvP and that's fine. I'd personally love a PvE version of Darkfall with lots of mobs and dungeons, but the exact same combat mechanics. I hope someone comes out with a game like that.


Asdar

  Vapors

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5/18/13 5:06:19 AM#42

Originally posted by Snoepie

it would be nice to have actual editors that are testing games.. instead of people that write some acticle who dont even play videogames but just collect money from writing this..


 


A: this game is not even a game.. its a beta version of something what is coming.. you pay over 50 dollars with a sub to play this so called game.. and its not even @ 10% working or finished..


- content is lacking


- rolls are not even complete


- no siege equipements/boats etc.. etc..


B: this company is the worst of all companies ever


C: forum is being heavily cencored currently by mods... from people making critisme about above..


D: zero to none customer support..


 


Ill bet you 2 my accounts of darkfall that this game will not be finished or @ least in a decent state in the end of 2013


 


True follower of the old version for 7 years



I have never seen a game which has boats. Hm maybe minecraft but thats no mmo


  Adreu

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Joined: 10/10/09
Posts: 27

5/18/13 7:13:10 AM#43
A very good review that covered well what DF:UW is all about. 
  Mkilbride

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Joined: 9/01/07
Posts: 575

5/18/13 8:03:59 AM#44

GREAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY?!


 


The SERVERS WERE DOWN FOR A WEEK, WITH NO COMMUNICATION!


 


That's horrible! For a game you're paying monthly for!


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  Zeddakis

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Joined: 9/11/11
Posts: 69

5/18/13 8:19:19 AM#45

Originally posted by Lahuzer


Originally posted by Zeddakis




Originally posted by SBE1



Wall of text...





You know you can PM the writer with your suggestions? That might have been the better route to take than posting that wall of text.



Why should he do that? He has some valid points that is good if people read and think about as well after reading that review. You could have taken away all his text when you answered him though...



Why should I delete his wall of text? Is it because he wrote too much?


Maybe he needs to become a reviewer, since he has such strong opinions about how it should be done and clearly he really really really likes to write.


  Burntvet

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Joined: 11/16/07
Posts: 2621

5/18/13 8:27:43 AM#46
Originally posted by Mkilbride

GREAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY?!


 


The SERVERS WERE DOWN FOR A WEEK, WITH NO COMMUNICATION!


 


That's horrible! For a game you're paying monthly for!


 

Apparently, the MMORPG.com people didn't want RipperX to do the review because he is too much a fan of the game. However, in having the person that did this review play with RipperX, they got something almost as bad. This review missed MANY of the problems that DFUO has, and obviously ignored others to give it the high ratings it did in several areas. Not a good review, for an even worse game.
  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6457

5/18/13 9:11:02 AM#47
Good review.  I do not like how they implemented melee combat.  If you jump or turn to sprint that should immediately drop your defense rating to zero.   A hopper should be a very easy target, they can't move to avoid an attack.
  AIMonster

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Joined: 12/31/08
Posts: 1981

5/18/13 9:55:35 AM#48

Well, I personally would have scored most areas much lower (I did purchase and play the game at suggestion of people in my gaming community and the game gets a 3/10 or 4/10 at best from me, but it's really not my type of game so I'm biased), but I do take issue with the fact you mentioned "Great Communication with the Community".  Really?  In what parallel universe did you write this review from?


AV has the worst communication and PR I've seen of any MMO company.  Information about the game is buried on their forums, they constantly make PR blunders, and they wait till the very last minute to announce major things (like pushing back release dates).  They often go silence when major issues arise.  At times they flat out lie.  I don't need to list the numerous examples of where this is the case.  I just can't possibly imagine how the reviewer even considers AV to have good communication.


A few other minor things I take issue with: 


Being a sandbox is not innovative.  There are plenty of sandboxes out there, and nearly all unreleased modern games are going a hybrid sandbox/themepark route.  I do think Darkfall has plenty of innovative features you could talk about, but I don't feel you can call it innovative because it's a sandbox.  In fact this whole section is just lacking, and you mention a lot of innovation in the gameplay section anyway.


Polish, what would it take to get a lower score in this?  The game is very incomplete in a lot of areas.  It feels rushed.  It's poorly optimized.  Where exactly is the polish here?  You don't mention anything that would give it points in this, only negatives and yet it's a 7/10?


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  Anthur

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Joined: 3/05/10
Posts: 592

5/18/13 4:18:27 PM#49

Good review. Only way to make yourself an unbiased oppinion is to try it. Unfortunately there is no trial. That and the quite expensive cost to try it are the only major negatives I see. Anyway, don't build your oppionion about the game just by listening to the haters here.


Have fun what ever you are playing. ;)


 


  Aragon100

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Joined: 2/06/08
Posts: 2167

5/18/13 6:00:06 PM#50

People claiming there is no cheaters are either blind or cheaters themself.


When you get 3 arrows in your back in 1-2 seconds and you as a skirmisher with speedrunning as your ultimate still have the guy glued to your back then someting is very wrong. Answer is speedhack.


Same with warriors that circle you with the speed of lightning to get their crits in when they hit you from behind  and this is actually impossible to miss if you're not a total noob so i go for the ones claiming there is no cheaters is actually cheaters themself.


Aimbot is just as common, some skirmishers never miss, never. 


 


 


 


 


 


 


  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 3235

5/18/13 9:58:00 PM#51
To everyone saying "wtf are you taking about" about pretty much everything. The reviewer most likely is newer to the MMO screen, probably first introduced to AAA titles by WoW circa 2007 or something. Most MMO players are not old fogy's like us who've been playing MMORPGs since the late 90s. Having this in mind, it doesn't surprise me that the reviewer gave UW this score. For someone looking to get away from the WoW model of gaming, UW is a breath of fresh air. For people who never play WoW style games, the game is a disappointment. 


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Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
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Warhammer - Xpiher

  Ubel12

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Joined: 10/17/03
Posts: 153

5/18/13 10:24:30 PM#52



Bill Check yourself =) Make sure you are writing what you want to write. And do it after you have thought everything though. A good ,accurate, well thought out, and true to heart review is the best. In my irises anyway.




 

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  Sid_Vicious

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Joined: 4/07/10
Posts: 1523

5/19/13 2:41:10 AM#53
Gameplay is definitely 9/10 once you get some confidence in the PVP area.

NEWS FLASH! A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore Darkfall Online player and knew just what to do.

  Sid_Vicious

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Posts: 1523

5/19/13 2:56:19 AM#54
You people are paranoid... I have yet to come across anybody cheating. Its easy to be suspicious in this type of game though. A good warmed up player can shoot you nonstop without missing sometimes. Stop being ridiculous if your first thought is that they must be using aimbot or something. People dodge a lot in this game and there is no strafe so using an aimbot will actually make you an easier target for the enemy to take down. Many times during combat you do not have the enemy on your screen if you are a good player. Trust me. Aimbot is not used by the pros in this game. Cheaters haven't been an issue at all for me and I have been playing a lot.

NEWS FLASH! A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore Darkfall Online player and knew just what to do.

  Aragon100

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Posts: 2167

5/19/13 5:22:06 AM#55

Sid - Why didnt you address the use of speedhack that is all over the place? Warriors running arround you with the speed of lightning to get those crits in your back. They usually turn on their speedhack when they is surpriced farming in PvE spots. Speedhack users is in the game and they arent as few as you claim, and speedhack can be turned on gradually so it isnt that obvious your using it but still give you that upper hand.


Shooting 3 arrows in 1-2 sec isnt possible with game mechanics. And didnt you see the 350 damage from 1 arrow a deathpig cowboy managed to do? Easy to have 150K prowess points then isnt it? Rest of the playerbase have half in PP.


Time you remove your fanboy glasses and see the game for what it is. 


 


 


 


  MegaD61

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Posts: 60

5/19/13 5:57:59 AM#56

Originally posted by PsyMike3d


 The melee combat is clunky, archery is worse, spellcasting is dumbed down.  The game is flat out unacceptable.   It may be fast and chaotic, but it's sloppy and unrefined: somehow it's even Worse than DF1.  




The progression is simply a dumbed down version of the same thing from DF1 with less options presented.  Same thing goes for crafting.  




The gameplay deserves a 6/10 at the most.  Overall the game is a 5 or a 6.



totally agree!



Do you guys even play? The combat had problems in beta but now I find it fun faced paced and fluid... I enjoy fights in DFUW more then I did in DF1 and I played DF1 for years.  You either are not playing or just don't like change.


  MegaD61

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5/19/13 6:00:02 AM#57

Originally posted by Aragon100

Sid - Why didnt you address the use of speedhack that is all over the place? Warriors running arround you with the speed of lightning to get those crits in your back. They usually turn on their speedhack when they is surpriced farming in PvE spots. Speedhack users is in the game and they arent as few as you claim, and speedhack can be turned on gradually so it isnt that obvious your using it but still give you that upper hand.




Shooting 3 arrows in 1-2 sec isnt possible with game mechanics. And didnt you see the 350 damage from 1 arrow a deathpig cowboy managed to do? Easy to have 150K prowess points then isnt it? Rest of the playerbase have half in PP.




Time you remove your fanboy glasses and see the game for what it is. 




 




 




 





 


Man why so many haters... I have a 40 K skirm.  I play DFUW all the time... I have NEVER personally saw a cheater... Please do not take a few cases and make it sound like its rampant because it is not. AV is banning cheaters and gold sellers as they find them.


  Aragon100

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5/19/13 6:11:11 AM#58

Originally posted by MegaD61




Originally posted by Aragon100



Sid - Why didnt you address the use of speedhack that is all over the place? Warriors running arround you with the speed of lightning to get those crits in your back. They usually turn on their speedhack when they is surpriced farming in PvE spots. Speedhack users is in the game and they arent as few as you claim, and speedhack can be turned on gradually so it isnt that obvious your using it but still give you that upper hand.








Shooting 3 arrows in 1-2 sec isnt possible with game mechanics. And didnt you see the 350 damage from 1 arrow a deathpig cowboy managed to do? Easy to have 150K prowess points then isnt it? Rest of the playerbase have half in PP.








Time you remove your fanboy glasses and see the game for what it is. 








 








 








 











 




Man why so many haters... I have a 40 K skirm.  I play DFUW all the time... I have NEVER personally saw a cheater... Please do not take a few cases and make it sound like its rampant because it is not. AV is banning cheaters and gold sellers as they find them.



That's because you arent as experienced as i am. I played these kind of games since UO beta 1997 and i dont care dying, just pisses me off dying in competitive games towards cheaters.


 


  Grixxitt

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5/19/13 8:53:00 AM#59

Lol Aragorn.


You've played FPS mmos since 1997? Really? Which ones were those?


 


2 out of the 4 classes have skills which add to movement speed chief.


 


As far as aimbotting goes, how exactly would that work considering players have a tendency to not stand still when they're getting shot at? I don't see something like this working even in PVE where mobs move and react in an unpredictable fashion.


 


I think it's time to face the fact that you just aren't as good as you think you are.


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  Aragon100

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5/19/13 9:03:50 AM#60

Gri - Aint you a Sherlock.


2 classes have movement speed? really? =)


Do you even know what speedhack does? It increase the speed of shooting and the speed of your character, have nothing to do with classes. A skirmisher on speedhack is faster then a legit skirmisher, was that easy enough for you?


There is aimbotting, wallhack, radar, invulneribility and speedhack out there if you take 10 seconds of your time googling. 


You actually belive DFUW is the only MMO out there without cheats? My experience is that competitive gaming with full loot have more cheaters since the reward for cheating is greater.


 


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