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  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 8067

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

 
OP  5/15/13 10:34:49 AM#1

For old times sake I still had a sub running on SWTOR, wanted to look in and ... nothing. Launcher launches but after you press play, nothing happens. Apparently, judging from the official forum, a lot of people have that issue.

Wow, I mean... I am locked out for 2 days in an old, running MMO? Really?

Tech-wise this game really seems to be a craptastrophe. What a farce.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 978

5/16/13 3:49:04 AM#2

yup,,i have seen two othe mmos in even worse state, than this

STO , back at launch

and vanguard online

STO bled 90% of the players, almost died, and went F2P

AFAIK, vanguard is dead now? not sure

i know, that mmos are hard to make,,and good mmos even harder

but either , they dont,,or they just dont care

  Dihoru

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Joined: 1/11/06
Posts: 2281

5/16/13 3:52:53 AM#3
Originally posted by simplius

yup,,i have seen two othe mmos in even worse state, than this

STO , back at launch

and vanguard online

STO bled 90% of the players, almost died, and went F2P

AFAIK, vanguard is dead now? not sure

i know, that mmos are hard to make,,and good mmos even harder

but either , they dont,,or they just dont care

STO has climbed back since F2P and Vanguard seems to be going undead o.O.

  Lobotomist

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Joined: 5/20/07
Posts: 4699

I got so much trouble on my mind Refuse to lose.

5/16/13 3:54:54 AM#4

Somebody at Bioware IT decided to do a good deed to the world.

"God...the game is so awful. What we are putting the people trough. I can not simply stand by and watch. If I break the servers for at least a day. At least I would spare people from suffering, even if its just for those few hours"

What a personal sacrifice !

 

 

  Doogiehowser

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Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 1843

5/16/13 3:58:08 AM#5
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Somebody at Bioware IT decided to do a good deed to the world.

"God...the game is so awful. What we are putting the people trough. I can not simply stand by and watch. If I break the servers for at least a day. At least I would spare people from suffering, even if its just for those few hours"

What a personal sacrifice !

 

 

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16023

5/16/13 4:11:05 AM#6
Originally posted by simplius

yup,,i have seen two othe mmos in even worse state, than this

STO , back at launch

and vanguard online

STO bled 90% of the players, almost died, and went F2P

AFAIK, vanguard is dead now? not sure

i know, that mmos are hard to make,,and good mmos even harder

but either , they dont,,or they just dont care

The difference is that both those games are low budget, particularly STO that was made far too fast.

Bioware had a huge budget and 5 years so I think we should expect more from them.

Sure, MMOs always have some issues at launch but by now anything really should be fixed.

  Doogiehowser

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 1843

5/16/13 4:19:10 AM#7
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by simplius

yup,,i have seen two othe mmos in even worse state, than this

STO , back at launch

and vanguard online

STO bled 90% of the players, almost died, and went F2P

AFAIK, vanguard is dead now? not sure

i know, that mmos are hard to make,,and good mmos even harder

but either , they dont,,or they just dont care

The difference is that both those games are low budget, particularly STO that was made far too fast.

Bioware had a huge budget and 5 years so I think we should expect more from them.

Sure, MMOs always have some issues at launch but by now anything really should be fixed.

Sorry but that is not possible. There are MMOS running for 8 to 10 years and  they still have issues. When it comes to any piece of software..nothing is ever fixed.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney

  Lesrach

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Joined: 11/30/05
Posts: 115

5/16/13 4:35:29 AM#8

Came back last fall before christmas. Had a lot of problems crashing, black screens, blue screens, performance issues and around January finally they went away. Weird isn't it. Most of the techsupport cycle they put me through was useless and problems were not found. Then they just disappeared all by themselves. Been playing since without any problems.

 

Nice to know department: Played games with my computer 30 months(including swtor at launch) without problems but after coming back to swtor (2012fall) those problems started, and continued to appear in every damn game! Untill, as I told you, they just "went away". I'm very sceptic and agnostic man, but these computers make me wonder :p

  Dihoru

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Joined: 1/11/06
Posts: 2281

5/16/13 4:59:55 AM#9
Originally posted by Lesrach

Came back last fall before christmas. Had a lot of problems crashing, black screens, blue screens, performance issues and around January finally they went away. Weird isn't it. Most of the techsupport cycle they put me through was useless and problems were not found. Then they just disappeared all by themselves. Been playing since without any problems.

 

Nice to know department: Played games with my computer 30 months(including swtor at launch) without problems but after coming back to swtor (2012fall) those problems started, and continued to appear in every damn game! Untill, as I told you, they just "went away". I'm very sceptic and agnostic man, but these computers make me wonder :p

sounds like your northbridge is dying ( that's a chip on the motherboard btw).

  Lugors

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/06/12
Posts: 150

5/16/13 8:45:42 AM#10
The higher budget just means you throw more money at bad ideas.  And how on earth can you have any expectations of EA after their smashing track record of SWTOR, DA2, ME3, SimCIty, etc.  Unless those expectations are of  silly DRM, Day one DLC, and half finished products.
  mrrshann618

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 183

5/16/13 10:10:22 AM#11

Saw this thread. and thought "Really, I gotta see this" Went down to my computer, downloaded the patch, and I'm currently playing. I'm Sitting on Makeb right now.

Brilliant. so now I see this thread as:

"I'm a troll, I have no idea on how to troubleshoot my own computer and I'm going to blame that on the game because I want to!"

 

Let me give another example. My wife just re-intalled Rift. Thanks to Raptr she has the expansion and is once again trying out the world. However She could not log into the game without disabling the anti-virus completely. I took a look at it. checked a few things and noticed that for some reason Rift has a problem with a very particular anti-virus program. SO I dug a bit more. Fixed the problem now she can log on just fine without disabling anything.

 

Does this mean that Rift sucks because her computer had a problem with it? Does Rift suck because others also had the issue? OR we can actually look at the underlying issue and actually determine that it was the computer's setup and not blame the publisher?

 

Gotta love how everyone else is to blame.

  simplius

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 978

5/16/13 10:11:35 AM#12
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by simplius

yup,,i have seen two othe mmos in even worse state, than this

STO , back at launch

and vanguard online

STO bled 90% of the players, almost died, and went F2P

AFAIK, vanguard is dead now? not sure

i know, that mmos are hard to make,,and good mmos even harder

but either , they dont,,or they just dont care

STO has climbed back since F2P and Vanguard seems to be going undead o.O.

i know,,i just resubbed to STO, they have solved a lot of their problems

voting with my wallet works both ways

  simplius

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 978

5/16/13 10:21:46 AM#13
Originally posted by mrrshann618

Saw this thread. and thought "Really, I gotta see this" Went down to my computer, downloaded the patch, and I'm currently playing. I'm Sitting on Makeb right now.

Brilliant. so now I see this thread as:

"I'm a troll, I have no idea on how to troubleshoot my own computer and I'm going to blame that on the game because I want to!"

 

Let me give another example. My wife just re-intalled Rift. Thanks to Raptr she has the expansion and is once again trying out the world. However She could not log into the game without disabling the anti-virus completely. I took a look at it. checked a few things and noticed that for some reason Rift has a problem with a very particular anti-virus program. SO I dug a bit more. Fixed the problem now she can log on just fine without disabling anything.

 

Does this mean that Rift sucks because her computer had a problem with it? Does Rift suck because others also had the issue? OR we can actually look at the underlying issue and actually determine that it was the computer's setup and not blame the publisher?

 

Gotta love how everyone else is to blame.

oh,,so we all have to be computer Experts to play a mainstream mmo? how convenient

apparently, Theres this new thing, called USER FRIENDLY

if you really are the computer wiz , you claim to be, then you would know,, that certain

CPU/Graphics/OS combos can make a certain game unplayable on that machine

but unless you want to travel around the World, and troubleshoot for free,,there is a problem

 

  simplius

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 978

5/16/13 10:27:33 AM#14
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by simplius

yup,,i have seen two othe mmos in even worse state, than this

STO , back at launch

and vanguard online

STO bled 90% of the players, almost died, and went F2P

AFAIK, vanguard is dead now? not sure

i know, that mmos are hard to make,,and good mmos even harder

but either , they dont,,or they just dont care

The difference is that both those games are low budget, particularly STO that was made far too fast.

Bioware had a huge budget and 5 years so I think we should expect more from them.

Sure, MMOs always have some issues at launch but by now anything really should be fixed.

oh yea,,STO launched the half of a game,,and that half was even buggy as..

any mmo will have bugs. all the time

only their number, and severity varies,,,A LOT

  Ujirik

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Joined: 3/27/07
Posts: 456

5/16/13 10:27:57 AM#15
Every MMO will suffer from unexpected downtime sooner or later.  Just relax and accept that sometimes things happen regardless of how prepared the developer is.

  Grintch

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Joined: 6/17/04
Posts: 39

5/16/13 10:33:03 AM#16
Originally posted by mrrshann618

Saw this thread. and thought "Really, I gotta see this" Went down to my computer, downloaded the patch, and I'm currently playing. I'm Sitting on Makeb right now.

Brilliant. so now I see this thread as:

"I'm a troll, I have no idea on how to troubleshoot my own computer and I'm going to blame that on the game because I want to!"

 

Let me give another example. My wife just re-intalled Rift. Thanks to Raptr she has the expansion and is once again trying out the world. However She could not log into the game without disabling the anti-virus completely. I took a look at it. checked a few things and noticed that for some reason Rift has a problem with a very particular anti-virus program. SO I dug a bit more. Fixed the problem now she can log on just fine without disabling anything.

 

Does this mean that Rift sucks because her computer had a problem with it? Does Rift suck because others also had the issue? OR we can actually look at the underlying issue and actually determine that it was the computer's setup and not blame the publisher?

 

Gotta love how everyone else is to blame.

Great answer. I was away for a few months, downloaded a bunch of patches and have no problem playing either. I'll bet the OP didn't even spend 5 mins checking for solutions before posting.

 

  mrrshann618

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Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 183

5/16/13 11:07:43 AM#17
Originally posted by simplius
Originally posted by mrrshann618

Saw this thread. and thought "Really, I gotta see this" Went down to my computer, downloaded the patch, and I'm currently playing. I'm Sitting on Makeb right now.

Brilliant. so now I see this thread as:

"I'm a troll, I have no idea on how to troubleshoot my own computer and I'm going to blame that on the game because I want to!"

 

Let me give another example. My wife just re-intalled Rift. Thanks to Raptr she has the expansion and is once again trying out the world. However She could not log into the game without disabling the anti-virus completely. I took a look at it. checked a few things and noticed that for some reason Rift has a problem with a very particular anti-virus program. SO I dug a bit more. Fixed the problem now she can log on just fine without disabling anything.

 

Does this mean that Rift sucks because her computer had a problem with it? Does Rift suck because others also had the issue? OR we can actually look at the underlying issue and actually determine that it was the computer's setup and not blame the publisher?

 

Gotta love how everyone else is to blame.

oh,,so we all have to be computer Experts to play a mainstream mmo? how convenient

apparently, Theres this new thing, called USER FRIENDLY

if you really are the computer wiz , you claim to be, then you would know,, that certain

CPU/Graphics/OS combos can make a certain game unplayable on that machine

but unless you want to travel around the World, and troubleshoot for free,,there is a problem

 

It had nothing to do about being an expert on anything other than google-fu. As the op stated he had scoured the forums and found that others had the problem, this also usually indicates that if the person were to "dig further" they would have found an answer. I never claimed to be an expert I only claimed to have "dug further". That does include looking for/at any published solutions.

USER FRIENDLY does not mean universal acceptance, it means "most common factors covered" Key word is MOST. Plug-n-play is user friendly but it does not grant the greatest protection, you want better protection on a firewall it means you pony up and learn your system, or pay someone to do it for you.

  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 4707

5/16/13 11:16:20 AM#18
Originally posted by mrrshann618
Originally posted by simplius
Originally posted by mrrshann618

Saw this thread. and thought "Really, I gotta see this" Went down to my computer, downloaded the patch, and I'm currently playing. I'm Sitting on Makeb right now.

Brilliant. so now I see this thread as:

"I'm a troll, I have no idea on how to troubleshoot my own computer and I'm going to blame that on the game because I want to!"

 

Let me give another example. My wife just re-intalled Rift. Thanks to Raptr she has the expansion and is once again trying out the world. However She could not log into the game without disabling the anti-virus completely. I took a look at it. checked a few things and noticed that for some reason Rift has a problem with a very particular anti-virus program. SO I dug a bit more. Fixed the problem now she can log on just fine without disabling anything.

 

Does this mean that Rift sucks because her computer had a problem with it? Does Rift suck because others also had the issue? OR we can actually look at the underlying issue and actually determine that it was the computer's setup and not blame the publisher?

 

Gotta love how everyone else is to blame.

oh,,so we all have to be computer Experts to play a mainstream mmo? how convenient

apparently, Theres this new thing, called USER FRIENDLY

if you really are the computer wiz , you claim to be, then you would know,, that certain

CPU/Graphics/OS combos can make a certain game unplayable on that machine

but unless you want to travel around the World, and troubleshoot for free,,there is a problem

 

It had nothing to do about being an expert on anything other than google-fu. As the op stated he had scoured the forums and found that others had the problem, this also usually indicates that if the person were to "dig further" they would have found an answer. I never claimed to be an expert I only claimed to have "dug further". That does include looking for/at any published solutions.

USER FRIENDLY does not mean universal acceptance, it means "most common factors covered" Key word is MOST. Plug-n-play is user friendly but it does not grant the greatest protection, you want better protection on a firewall it means you pony up and learn your system, or pay someone to do it for you.

the problem that had SW;TOR not working really only applied if you had windows xp, there was a patch late last night that fixed the problem, which was that when you tried to launch the game from the patcher, the game crashed to desktop immediately. but the problem is now fixed, and it was only for people with XP, which unfortunately.. included me.. but as i said, they fixed it, and now its working again.

  simplius

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5/16/13 11:18:02 AM#19

good luck with that

the average, casual gamer wont go through so much trouble, to play a game

he prolly wont even bother to write a rage post

he wil just take his business to the next game

like most of us did

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

5/16/13 11:22:50 AM#20
Originally posted by mrrshann618

Saw this thread. and thought "Really, I gotta see this" Went down to my computer, downloaded the patch, and I'm currently playing. I'm Sitting on Makeb right now.

Brilliant. so now I see this thread as:

"I'm a troll, I have no idea on how to troubleshoot my own computer and I'm going to blame that on the game because I want to!"

 

Let me give another example. My wife just re-intalled Rift. Thanks to Raptr she has the expansion and is once again trying out the world. However She could not log into the game without disabling the anti-virus completely. I took a look at it. checked a few things and noticed that for some reason Rift has a problem with a very particular anti-virus program. SO I dug a bit more. Fixed the problem now she can log on just fine without disabling anything.

 

Does this mean that Rift sucks because her computer had a problem with it? Does Rift suck because others also had the issue? OR we can actually look at the underlying issue and actually determine that it was the computer's setup and not blame the publisher?

 

Gotta love how everyone else is to blame.

Apparently it affected more players than just the OP. It was down to the 2.1 patch

It is down to Bioware and not anti-virus software or whatever

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=638559

From glancing through that thread it seems to be people using Windows XP. Dragons Prophet is not compatible with WIndows XP now, but that is from the get go, but is is a bit off making game incompatible with Windows XP without a bit of warning, especially if just renewed a sub, and even worse if it is as 12 month one, and can not afford Win 7 or Win 8 straight away

EDIT: It seems to be fixed now, which is good

But that shows there was a problem. Instead of bash the people for moaning why not try and seek out what is wrong like I did, you defend the game way too quick

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