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General Discussion  » Once you experience group pvp in Darkfall, you don't go back.

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  wrekognize

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Joined: 7/30/07
Posts: 385

 
OP  5/13/13 5:05:27 PM#1

Two nights ago, my clan had around 10 near our hamlet doing our normal thing. Fighting mobs, harvesting and crafting. When out of nowhere 7-10 enemies from another clan run through killing us. So we quickly re gear and head to their last location. The battle that proceeded was truly epic. At the end we stood over their graves and took back what loot they got from us, plus theirs.

The next night, two friends of mine and I decided to go hunt a particular mob. As we arrive, we see 2 groups of 3 people fighting against each other. So we decide to hide behind some rocks and watch the battle. as one side wins we make our move knowing the enemy's stats will be low. The fight lasts a few minutes, until we stand over all of them looting our reward. Now we have also secured fighting the mob spawn...of course until the group we dropped got their revenge. 

These are two examples of what I'd consider low end battles. These battles were not scripted by throwing us into a battleground or some instanced area.. They were driven by the players in the open world. The world we are all fighting to control. I can't wait for the battles where it will be 50+ vs 50+

If you've ever watched a pvp video of darkfall, trust me - it does not show the true feeling of what it is like. There is no game that compares to the realism darkfall provides.

  Chrisbox

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5/13/13 5:09:54 PM#2
Agreed, the larger scale battles are an extreme blast. The largest I've experienced is 20v30+.   I don't think i'll be continuing my sub however until they add more actual sandbox politics/elements.  

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  Seelinnikoi

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Posts: 528

5/13/13 5:13:38 PM#3

I agree on this too, group PVP is very team based. One of the best features of the game. 

Sadly it is overshadowed by other less fun things. :(

 

  Jupsto

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Joined: 3/22/07
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5/13/13 5:28:25 PM#4

yeah "pvp" in any other mmo just feels like a complete joke after darkfall. theres no adrenaline since your not risking anything, and theres no skill since your simply queing abilities.

 

hasn't been any great siege videos so far AFAIK, but this one was quite funny, altho 100% melee swinging.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y92IlSDLoFA

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  gamekid2k

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Joined: 6/24/12
Posts: 363

5/14/13 10:09:04 AM#5

dfuw ruined my Mmo experience. I dont think I will be able to enjoy ESO when it comes out

 

Now Playing: DARKFALL Unholy Wars "Return to Open World, Full Loot PvP, Conquest in a Sandbox MMO with player driven economy! Just like classic MMOs!"

  User Deleted
5/15/13 9:15:00 PM#6
Originally posted by gamekid2k

dfuw ruined my Mmo experience. I dont think I will be able to enjoy ESO when it comes out

 

Agreed.

 

This game is under rated.  Well unless you love the themepark wow clones. 

 

I would trade polish for unique/hard/risky any day and the game delivers.

 

You just don't get this kind of metagaming out of a themepark.

 

More importantly...the group pvp dynamic is crazy.  Friendly fire, uninvited guests, your loots on the line...no two fights are ever the same.

 

If this game ever:

1. got a serious amount of polish (and mind you im talking AAA polish this game is lightyears ahead of Mortal Online and Xyson ect in terms of polish)

2. A large non combat related mechanic in the game

It would be a complete and epic sandbox.

 

Don't be afraid if your timid about gear loss of rampant ganking...its worth the occasional loss of gear and hot headed moments. 

 

Seriously under rated game that deserves a decent population.  If you are sick of the clones you are retarded for not playing this game.

  User Deleted
5/15/13 9:21:22 PM#7

And which script would you be reading from if you had lost that fight?

"This game is unbalanced!"

or

"Cheating is rampant in this game!"

 

  User Deleted
5/16/13 12:11:37 AM#8
Originally posted by topographic

And which script would you be reading from if you had lost that fight?

"This game is unbalanced!"

or

"Cheating is rampant in this game!"

 

Well your missing the vital first step in DF pvp anger.

 

First the losing team must accuse the winning team of being both "bads" and then "zerging"  After which the follow up accusation of role balance (all roles have an OP factor to them) and/or cheating/lagswitching can then be levied against the winning side.

 

If this process makes absolutely no sense, you would be correct.  All part of the humor in darkfall....which on its surface looks like a cesspool of rage and hate, but once you get the community its mostly funny stuff masked as ragers.

  MegaD61

Novice Member

Joined: 5/06/08
Posts: 60

5/16/13 12:28:04 AM#9
I just was part of an pretty epic siege tonight.  We had a group of about 40 and we were facing about 3 groups of 15-20 but were able to keep them from linking up and so repeatedly rolled them.  Was great times.  I heard we got footage will try and post.
  Mkilbride

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5/17/13 12:14:01 AM#10

Lol, the PVP in this is a complete JOKE compared to Guild Wars 1 or DAOC.

 

Once you play DAOC's PVP, you can't go back to this shit.

Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

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  b0mb3r

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Joined: 9/28/08
Posts: 10

5/17/13 2:08:47 PM#11

Agreed!

I played UO on its golden era. And after it, i can't enjoy a game where u cannot be killed  and looted. You can do whatever you want, wherever you want, with whoever you want without consequences.

DF1 and now DF:UW is the only MMO that kept me playing for more than 1 month after UO. And besides the full loot, you actualy have to aim to hit something...

 

DF:UW needs a lot of content, and pollish, but i can't find another game in the market worth paying a single dolar.

  Realbigdeal

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Joined: 9/28/08
Posts: 1647

5/17/13 2:58:14 PM#12
This is so true. Even if i left DF UW for a while, i can't bring myself to play an other mmo and i plan to go back after an other 3 months. There's is still nothing better than darkfall when it comes down to pvp and especially group fights.

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  Mkilbride

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5/17/13 5:11:59 PM#13
Dark Age of Camelot, Guild Wars 1(Make sure it's 1, as 2's PVP does indeed suck.)

Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

  Damedius

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5/17/13 5:36:51 PM#14
Originally posted by Mkilbride

Lol, the PVP in this is a complete JOKE compared to Guild Wars 1 or DAOC.

 

Once you play DAOC's PVP, you can't go back to this shit.

I tried DAOC's Pvp after playing the original Darkfall.

 

I don't think I can properly express just how horrible DAOC's PvP is. It is easily the worst PvP I have ever played in an MMO.

Who in their right mind thought that 45 second CC was a good idea?

  asdar

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Joined: 11/07/05
Posts: 590

5/18/13 6:37:52 AM#15


Originally posted by Mkilbride
Dark Age of Camelot, Guild Wars 1(Make sure it's 1, as 2's PVP does indeed suck.)

I've played both these games and I liked both well enough. Darkfall is better than DAoC for large battles. It's more skill based and meaningful, and the combat is just better.

GW 1 isn't comparing apples to apples. It was arena based, totally different, and while I enjoyed the heck out of GW 1 it shouldn't be compared to an open world fight. The reason most people quit GW was because it's so repetitive, like playing CoD matches. There's no meaning to those games.

Asdar

  Stromm

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5/18/13 6:55:17 AM#16
Originally posted by Mkilbride
Dark Age of Camelot, Guild Wars 1(Make sure it's 1, as 2's PVP does indeed suck.)

Time to update that sig.

  Stromm

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5/18/13 6:57:48 AM#17
Originally posted by Damedius
Originally posted by Mkilbride

Lol, the PVP in this is a complete JOKE compared to Guild Wars 1 or DAOC.

 

Once you play DAOC's PVP, you can't go back to this shit.

I tried DAOC's Pvp after playing the original Darkfall.

 

I don't think I can properly express just how horrible DAOC's PvP is. It is easily the worst PvP I have ever played in an MMO.

Who in their right mind thought that 45 second CC was a good idea?

I'm not a regular PvPer, it's never a focus for me, can't say I even like RPG PvP much at all tbh. DAoC is probably the single biggest contributor to that opinion. So yeah, I agree with your assessment of DAoC.

  User Deleted
5/18/13 12:59:42 PM#18

I dunno, DAOC and GW1 was like the best/better incarnation of themepark no risk pvp.  Certainly a completely different beast than a action combat full loot game.

 

Untill a conglomerate gaming company puts some mega bucks into making a full loot ffa open world sandbox game...DF will reign king of this type of game.  I know its not saying much but its why this game isn't near death like its competition...its actually made halfway decent and works.

 

 

  User Deleted
5/18/13 1:12:11 PM#19
The thing with DF, nothing lasts forever, it either breaks or gets stolen. And the best stuff is player made, and Bears don't drop swords.
  Mkilbride

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5/19/13 3:22:25 PM#20
Yeah, not sure why people are still claiming only Darkfall only does this, when there is a handful of other MMO's with the same mechanics and better versions of Darkfalls.

Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

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