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OP  5/10/13 8:31:01 PM#1
How bad is the mmorpg market when there's 10x the amount of mmo's out there now compared to 10 years ago, but none you want to give your money to? I used to be worried about keeping 2 game sub's going because there was only 24hrs in the day and I needed to work and sleep - now I'd give my paycheck for just one good mmo>< FYI "free to play" is really just gaming code for "pay to win" or "I suck"

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5/10/13 8:32:26 PM#2
Originally posted by bbucholz
How bad is the mmorpg market when there's 10x the amount of mmo's out there now compared to 10 years ago, but none you want to give your money to? I used to be worried about keeping 2 game sub's going because there was only 24hrs in the day and I needed to work and sleep - now I'd give my paycheck for just one good mmo>< FYI "free to play" is really just gaming code for "pay to win" or "I suck"

go play WoW. problem solved


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OP  5/10/13 8:37:38 PM#3
played it to death - I am one of 1.3 million to leave WoW this year. Awesome game when it was prime time

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5/10/13 8:42:47 PM#4
I am in the same place as you. I have tried almost every mmo and beta  I could get into since  I quit wow I have so many games on my comp I should do a system restore lol!!!!! I cant find a game either :(

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5/10/13 8:43:21 PM#5

-Good luck.

Gameless myself as well. We have entered the MC"MMO" phase- No substance of longevity anymore.

There are a ton of MMOs which are fun for a month or three- But very little for long term.

I would recommend GW2 if you have not played (dont expect a deep or long term experience but its fun), maybe try Darkfall (not for me but it looks pretty deep and looks to be a game for a long term commitment- But is full loot PVP) or TSW (which I also didnt like but seems to be the best of the recent bunch)

Otherwise IDK. Its like "water water everywhere and not a drop to drink)- And "F2P" looks to be the new model which is further eroding the hobby imho.


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5/10/13 8:43:33 PM#6
Oh I quit 3 months ago

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5/10/13 9:33:38 PM#7

Age of Wushu is hard to get into but worth it.

Aion has tons of content but takes quite a bit of grind.

Atlantica was surprisingly fun but once you reach lvl 90 you gotta buy tokens for exp.

Gates of Andaron looks good for pvp.

Aurora World in beta phase looks promising.

Arcane Saga in beta phase looks promising as well.

League of Legends is MMO and kept my attention for over a year.

Tera is definitely worth getting into as well.




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5/10/13 11:16:37 PM#8

I really wish I had an answer for the OP.

My hard drive has had more johns come and go than the neighborhood corner worker. Annually subscribed to Age of Conan but I've milked that cow for all it's worth. If you haven't yet, there's a ton of content for you there. Unfortunately I have 8 max level characters and can't find the motivation to log in anymore. 

In the past ten days I've downloaded for first time, or a return attempt, the following: Age of Wushu, Darkfall Unholy Wars, Dungeons & Dragons Online, Dragon's Prophet (beta), Ragnarok Online 2 (beta), RaiderZ, The Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard Saga of Heroes, Neverwinter. 

Neverwinter needs a few months of tweaking in a few areas before I will be able to take it seriously.

Dragon's Prophet looks very promising in the graphics and action combat departments. I have no idea how much content is planned for it, and I don't wish to play it much in beta and get burned out before launch.  

As of now I am looking forward to playing Dragon's Prophet and Neverwinter in the future.  Everything else I mentioned is subject to removal from my computer as needed for hard drive space. 

I've previously tried and have no current desire to return to the following: Aion, Anarchy Online, APB, DCUO, EQ, EQ2, Fallen Earth, Final Fantasy XI, Global Agenda, Guild Wars, GW2, Pirate 101, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Planetside 2, Rift, Runes of Magic, Soul of the Ultimate Nation, Star Trek Online, Star Wars TOR, Tera, The Secret World, Warhammer, World of Tanks, World of Warcraft. Plus a dozen or two that weren't worth remembering/mentioning. 

If anyone thinks I have missed out on anything I have not listed, please mention it. And I have no interest to try Eve, we can skip that suggestion.


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OP  5/11/13 10:01:21 AM#9

Not that I have anything against this new action model, but I just can't get into it. I'm not a gamer that likes pounding buttons and seeing all sorts of stuff blowing up on the screen. I'm more of an auto attack/ with abilities, pen and paper, stat driven style player. I also like the huge, wide open world concept - not the mouse in a maze, follow this path model. These new mmo's are balancing everything so that every class can tank/heal and do damage.  Syndrome from the Incredibles has a quote I feel hits the nail on the head regarding this kind of balancing "...Everyone can be super! ...and when everyone's super, no one will be"

I remember camping the pridelord with my WoW hunter because he was better than a normal lion pet. I remember getting the first 3 teleport scrolls in FFXI as white mage in the first year of the game (training mobs to the zone line was a common practice lol). Rift I thought almost had it. Right at launch they were just a little un-balanced by having the start of an evasion tank, unique dps and solo class...but then they went and balanced everything.

I keep reading that game manufacturers are saying the pay model is dead. I disagree. I think the real mmorpg is what's dead. Nobody wants to sink money and time into a real world, real economy, un-balanced classes and crafting mmorpg because that's a lot of work. It's all about quick turn around cash now.

My PayPal account that i auto-deposit money into for mmo sub's is getting real large now - maybe I'll go buy a boat or something lol. Happy hunting everyone, hope you all find your next mmo. Peace


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5/11/13 10:13:56 AM#10

I have been jumping mmos for the past 3-4 years... cant seem to play anything more then a 2-3 months..... 

I guess il play skyrim again as a dagger mage or something/......

Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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5/11/13 10:16:17 AM#11


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5/11/13 10:24:28 AM#12

I started the secret world at release, quit a month in... Now im back into the game (buy to play just 1 time deal for game) and im fucking loving it. Coming from Rift its such a nice change, its more mature, darker, loads of profanity, i would definitely give it a try.

And dont be concerned with low population, im on the 2nd highest pop server i think of just 3 servers and i never have any issues finding groups!

What i love about this game is, while yes it takes awhile, you can max out all the weapons and abilities and really play as any spec you want whenever you want. So its far better then a system like rift where you have different roles, because you can play as any weapon class you want and still perform just as beastly as any other.


Definitely give The Secret World a try.


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5/11/13 10:35:30 AM#13
Op I agree with what you are trying to say and totally agree with you but mmo players have to expand their gaming tastes if they want to continue liking their hobby. MMOs today are such bad quality and it is disappointing. My advice is trying learning to love single player rpgs like Mass Effect series, Skyrim and The Witcher just to name a few. For me I have a PS3 and I love playing games on a console such as Dark Souls, Dragon Age and Dust 514. Just try to get into different things until you find the mmo that suites your needs. I probably will not be playing any mmos until Shroud of the Avatar and Blizzard's new mmo. So in the mean time I will not be wasting my free time on craptastic mmos, instead I'll be hitting up some great console titles.

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5/11/13 10:41:52 AM#14
I haven't had a good mmorpg to play in years. I've tried a lot of different mmo's but they're all craptastic clones of WoW, or a poor attempt at copying it. It is sad there's nothing good and original out there to play atm. I don't see anything coming along this year either that's going to be worth playing, sadly.

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5/11/13 10:49:05 AM#15
I've finally come to the same conclusion as the OP. I just quit SWTOR after playing since launch, I just couldn't log in anymore. Even with the new appearance changes coming this week, I could care less. Now I'm staring at my desktop with WoW, AOC, Lotro GW2 and Rift icons and have no desire to click any of them. I guess I'm burned out from years of gaming. To the OP, good luck to you in your next gaming phase, if any.

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5/11/13 11:09:23 AM#16

Well, that days I jump between this games:


GW2 : It has a great combat system , but lacks of depth. PvE is fun and challenging but always the same and WvW feels some kind of pointless. I dont like it that you have almost all skills at the start, I like to get skills while I level up, so I have to look forward for end game.  


TSW: Really the best storytelling I ever saw in an mmo. However the combat system is a bad that I want to cry. Also no dungeon finder makes  hard to find groups.


Defiance: Great action and good grafics. With the "dungeon finder" you even get fast coop and pvp action. Story is some kind of lame. My biggest problem, game is not really a rpg, no real char progression. 


WOW: Still a great game, but I played it to long. Old grafics. And Im not willing to pay subs anymore. However I still buy all new expantions and play 1-2 month after that.


I mostly play single player games now. Try Fallen Enchantress, it great if you like turn based games.

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5/11/13 11:16:18 AM#17

Going back to the old school games like Baler's Gate series, Icewind Dale series, prolly get back to Heroes VI while waiting ofr some promising MMOs coming out later this year.  Been a few years since I've been really invested and enjoying a good MMO.  Last was WoW during Wrath, been looking for a new solid MMO home since then. (good old games) is a great place to get some of those old nostalgic classics at a reasonable price.


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5/11/13 11:19:43 AM#18

I was in a similar predicament for a while. Then I hooked up with this great multi-game community, and have been playing Planetside 2 and Mech Warrior Online with them.


I think what is missing with so many games out these days is a community. You may have started playing a game because it looked cool, but you usually stick around because of the people. With people so spread out and with so many games to choose from, it really damages the human aspect.


I think if you all found a good group of people to play with, you might find some more longevity to these games.


Anyway, here is the community that I run with if you all want to check it out:


They are really good people, around 2500 members that vary of 25+ games, so there might be something for you in there.


Hope you all find what you are looking for,




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5/11/13 11:25:16 AM#19

I was in your position a few years ago.I once had the need to be in some MMORPG because I had always been subbed to one for the last 8 years or so.

However overcoming that urge and not needing to be playing a MMORPG unless I'm really enjoying it has been liberating and I love having more time for other things.So unless a truly gripping MMORPG comes along for me personally.I'm just as happy doing other things now.


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5/11/13 11:31:08 AM#20


I really appreciate you still wanting to give Lineage 2 a chance. I have read most of your posts about Lineage 2 and the Lindvior update. Really hard to see someone that actually still cares for a misunderstood mmo. I guess just people really don't like the classic grind. 

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