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General Discussion  » 2M F2P vs. 1.7M Reconciling the numbers.

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  DanitaKusor

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Joined: 6/17/09
Posts: 536

5/12/13 12:00:56 AM#41
I believe the amount of time and effort put into trying to work out the number of subscribers for SWTOR could be better spent on something people actually care about.

The Enlightened take things Lightly

  jpnz

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5/12/13 12:13:24 AM#42
Originally posted by DanitaKusor
I believe the amount of time and effort put into trying to work out the number of subscribers for SWTOR could be better spent on something people actually care about.

Fat chance of that happening! XD

EA just 'won' the worst company in US over Exxon (famous for such things as the Mayflower oil spill of 2013 and then tried to silence the media) that tells you all you need to know about priorities.

EA is a 'hot' share right now though which means the investors are happy.

Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  tiefighter25

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5/12/13 1:03:26 AM#43
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by DanitaKusor
I believe the amount of time and effort put into trying to work out the number of subscribers for SWTOR could be better spent on something people actually care about.

Fat chance of that happening! XD

EA just 'won' the worst company in US over Exxon (famous for such things as the Mayflower oil spill of 2013 and then tried to silence the media) that tells you all you need to know about priorities.

EA is a 'hot' share right now though which means the investors are happy.

It's kind of cute when you talk about investors as though it's a group of a few hundred guys and gals who take a lunchroom poll, and how that poll goes affects the stock price.

  jpnz

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5/12/13 2:34:30 AM#44
Originally posted by tiefighter25
 

It's kind of cute when you talk about investors as though it's a group of a few hundred guys and gals who take a lunchroom poll, and how that poll goes affects the stock price.

And its kind of funny (but sad) that you think stock price and investor happiness aren't linked.

Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  tiefighter25

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5/12/13 3:20:47 AM#45
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by tiefighter25
 

It's kind of cute when you talk about investors as though it's a group of a few hundred guys and gals who take a lunchroom poll, and how that poll goes affects the stock price.

And its kind of funny (but sad) that you think stock price and investor happiness aren't linked.

Investors? As in the people who bought EA stock when it went IPO? Shareholders can only sell or show up angry at the investor calls. EA stock has gone up because EA isn't doing nearly as poorly as predicted. (After the CEO resigned and no new CEO has been installed.)

SWTOR is currently a very small part of the EA portfolio. EA already took its hit on SWTOR. I could go on, but I think my words would be wasted.

As to EA's rosy future, http://kotaku.com/ea-sports-boss-sells-all-of-his-ea-stock-but-isnt-go-501760023 sure he isn't.

Regardless, it means little to the 900+ EA employees who were just pink-slipped.

The again, the stock hasn't been this high since the rumored NCsoft takeover.

  jpnz

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5/12/13 3:53:03 AM#46
Originally posted by tiefighter25
 

Investors? As in the people who bought EA stock when it went IPO? Shareholders can only sell or show up angry at the investor calls. EA stock has gone up because EA isn't doing nearly as poorly as predicted. (After the CEO resigned and no new CEO has been installed.)

SWTOR is currently a very small part of the EA portfolio. EA already took its hit on SWTOR. I could go on, but I think my words would be wasted.

As to EA's rosy future, http://kotaku.com/ea-sports-boss-sells-all-of-his-ea-stock-but-isnt-go-501760023 sure he isn't.

Regardless, it means little to the 900+ EA employees who were just pink-slipped.

The again, the stock hasn't been this high since the rumored NCsoft takeover.

Last I checked, the CEO resigned about a month ago and the financial disclosed is the 2013 period, in which John was still the CEO for 10 out of the 12 months. EA actually posted a profit btw which is why they are classified as 'buy' in computer generated stock recommendations.

Whatever EA did worked for them last year and it looks like they will continue to do the same this year. Their investor call didn't show any massive shift in strategy.

Yes, lets harp how many EA let go without any context that they hired more than 900+ last year (so they actually increased FTE). /Facepalm

Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  Calerxes

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Joined: 2/06/09
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5/12/13 6:48:27 AM#47
Originally posted by simplius
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by simplius
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by simplius

if i log into EVE, i can see how many players are online ,,every time

compare that to EAs quarterly reports, which are intentionally vague

also note, that EA numbers appear to be beefed up

cccp may do the same,,but not to the same extent

one company have good numbers,,and theyre proud, to show them

the other company have bad numbers,,and what do they do?

 

If I log into TOR I can see server load on the server screen and when I play I can /who for all players playing, it takes a bit more effort but I last did it (yes I'm sad) when i recently resubbed to TOR after a 8 month absence. Server, The Progenitor RP server EU,  server load Heavy, the player concurrent logins on server, 4598, both factions counted Sunday evening peak time. Every Planet has how many players are on the planet in the top left corner with friends and guildies online, you can search OP's, FP's, WZ's, class, race etc.. can you do that in EvE? The info is there for all to see if you want to, so do you want to its free?

 

NEXT!

no thanx, im a carebear, so i dont play EVE

but i do have higher confidence in ccp numbers, than in those from EA

hell,,at this point,,i would believe in hitler, rather than EA

 

A free MMO that allows you to /who all players on the server, seems like someone is truly a carebear and a keyboard warrior to boot. Your inference and Ref Minor's that you can find out the amount of players on Tranquility and not any of EA's TOR servers has been found out to be not true and this is all you can come up with.

 

"hell,,at this point,,i would believe in hitler, rather than EA"

Also it is this...

"Hell, at this point I would rather believe in Hitler, than EA"

 

The information is there for all to see.

 

NEXT!

Okay then, go and count them and compare your numbers, to EAs. I would be VERY surprised, if they match each other. Sorry about my bad grammar, but when you can write me in my native language, you might have a point.

 

Corrected grammar for educational purposes.

 

Okay så, gå og tælle dem og sammenligne dine tal, at EAs. Jeg ville være meget overrasket, hvis de matcher hinanden. Undskyld mit dårlige grammatik, men når du kan skrive til mig på mit modersmål, har du måske en pointe.

 

You are so blinded by your trolling that you cannot see I've actually done just that for my server The Progenitor? (orange text) but I'm not the one disputing EA's claims you are, so the onus is on you to put together the data. The game is free to download and the /who command is free to use (at least EA doesn't charge for that ) so off you go.

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  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 979

5/12/13 10:43:18 AM#48

okay, så gå ud, og tæl dem, og sammenlign dine tal, med EAS

jeg ville være meget overrasket, hvis de matcher hinanden. undskyld min dårlige grammatik

and the rest fits,,im impressed

however your grammar was as bad as mine

and im not reinstalling swtor , just to do a headcount

  User Deleted
5/13/13 4:30:59 AM#49
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Skooma2

Allow me to state at the outset that I am not a troll.  I have a question that perhaps can be answered by the community.

 

Why do any of you care how many subs a particular MMO has?  Unless you are 1) playing a game teetering on the edge of a shutdown cliff,or, 2) are a shareholder of the company at issue,  what possible difference can a game's sub numbers mean to you?

 

People want their choice of entertainment vindicated for some weird reason. I don't understand why, but I'm guessing those people don't have much going on for them IRL.

People can't play games because they enjoy it. That's freaking crazy talk!

First you have to find out how popular the game is, then look at stock prices for the publisher. After that, you head to the forums to see what complete strangers think of the game. After that, you look at Raptr and Xfire for reasons unknown; maybe check out Amazon reviews and Metacritic while you're at it. Next, maybe you're finally close to deciding whether or not you can enjoy the game, but first you have to analyze every aspect of the game and compare it against a game that you still love but refuse to play because it's too old. 

It's really not that damn complicated. Are you enjoying the game? If so, continue playing it. If you're not, then quit and move on with your life.

Sorry for the rant. 

Thats what happens when too many people have been burnt too many times.

Too many times x 60 euros/$+couple 15/month= a lot

People gettin smarter nowadays...well not all but quite a few

  User Deleted
5/13/13 4:34:53 AM#50
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by DanitaKusor
I believe the amount of time and effort put into trying to work out the number of subscribers for SWTOR could be better spent on something people actually care about.

Fat chance of that happening! XD

EA just 'won' the worst company in US over Exxon (famous for such things as the Mayflower oil spill of 2013 and then tried to silence the media) that tells you all you need to know about priorities.

EA is a 'hot' share right now though which means the investors are happy.

Buy now and sell before end of the week ;)

Naivety of the people never cease to amaze me. Computer generated (hell yea) rating for stock just got updated from "hold" to "buy" rofl

They even put disclaimer "this is in no way opinion of ours but of our computer generated rating" hahahahah

  simplius

Novice Member

Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 979

5/14/13 1:56:35 PM#51

their sports director is cashing in on his stocks

when the suits get ready to jump ship,,the ordinary investor is , usually, screwed

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