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5/13/13 10:47:57 PM#81
Why try to be normal ...i like being an odd mmorpg guy...i wouldnt have it any other way.
I like this planet, YOU get off!
5/14/13 4:25:55 AM#82
Originally posted by Beatnik59
Wait, why are you telling me to do what I have been telling you to do for pages?
I would love for the DEA to come bust up my house, its in desperate need of renovating. Which is exactly why that was an extremely poor analogy.
Yes, I hear playing boardgames with yourself is great deals of fun.
Bullshit. How many stores have Walmart pushed out of the market? How many mom and pop stores has Amazon? Services get replaced by other services, that is how a competitive market works. Its not fragile its a simple case of only the strong (in this case profitable) survive.
That was actually never shown. That is the conclusion that you die hards who threw a fit about it came to. What was shown was that profits were up from where they had been previously, but clearly not by enough to keep it around. It was also shown that such a trend was not holding. The actual operating cost of the studio was never disclosed, nor was it at how much of a loss it had been running at. Based on the statements given, even by Miller, they had been running at a loss for quite some time.
Wait, you mean just like that store, and barbershop and....
Except you are not getting screwed. At all. You are renting a service, one which tells you a head of time that you are losing said service and even goes about compensating you. Not unlike a going out of business sale. This is the nature of life.
Yes, back to the Alex Jones like conspiracy theories. My only stake is that stupidity should not be allowed to flourish.
Yes, down with the man! You are owed for all the wrongs committed against you!
Y U NO FLIP TABLE?!?!?!
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"Playing things I shouldn''t be playing since 1977."
5/14/13 5:13:59 PM#83
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Because you're the one who needs the advice. Seems you have a lot of experience in that too.
It explains a lot of why you like MMOs so much. Me, I take care of my stuff.
Spoken from experience? No, I'd rather play them with other people. Plus they're cheap. When you upgrade them, they're yours. And you don't get them yanked out from under you because Milton Bradley ain't making enough of a cut.
Funny, but the cancelations in this business seem to come from the strong and profitable mega-publishers (EA, NCSoft, SOE, Zynga) just as much--if not moreso--than from small publishers. Strength and profitability is no guarantee we'll keep our purchases. In fact, it could have the opposite effect. If they are big, they can screw over thousands of customers and just shrug it off as a cost of doing business.
I'm sure they had their reasons. Nevertheless, if it was important enough to them to let me keep my game, they could have found a way. We were, after all, netting a profit. Whether it was "enough" or not is, frankly, out of my control. I was, in the greater scheme, not so important to them. Fine. That's this business model.
It doesn't mean I have to buy into this business model going forward. What this industry is trying to sell me is, after due consideration, too expensive and too risky for the return I've been getting.
If you want to take it there, sure. On the day I need a haircut, if the barber is there, I go get my haircut. Once I get my haircut, I don't need him anymore. Or if I need a hammer, I can go to the hardware store and buy a hammer. Once I buy the hammer, I don't need him anymore. Or if I want dinner, I go to the restaurant. Once I buy the dinner, I pay and leave.
But if I buy a haircut, my hair doesn't get thrown back on my scalp once the barber determines he's "not profitable enough." And when I bought a hammer at the hardware store, my hammer doesn't disappear when the hardware store goes in a "new direction." And when I'm seated at a restaurant, my meal doesn't get taken away from me because the manager decides, on a whim, that he wants to cater to a new clientele.
I don't want to be continually dependent on a publishing company and production house to enjoy the things I buy from them. I don't have that in other games, so why not go to those other games?
It really doesn't matter whether you think I'm getting screwed, or the publishing houses think I'm getting screwed. All that matters is if I believe I'm getting screwed. That's the nature of life, friend. Welcome to business. Welcome to consumer preferences.
And I think I deserve better than what this industry passes off as acceptable. Do they have to respect that? No, but at the same time, I don't have to accept whatever deal they are pushing either.
But I'm done with this tired model they are offering now, because it isn't working well for me. It's good for them, but it sucks for me, so I'm holding out for a newer and better way to deliver games like these.
And how successful have you been at not allowing this "stupidity" to flourish, other than rehash the same tired spiel we always hear whenever a game closes down?
Because games don't have to "die" like natural things do. We just haven't figured out how to keep them up yet.
Maybe or maybe not. But the one thing I can say is that nobody is going to look out for me but me, when it comes to this kind of stuff. So since I don't like to have my stuff disappear on the whim of a publisher, I'm looking out for #1...the publishers certainly do.
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
5/20/13 4:28:15 PM#84
The death of CoH /CoV was not necessary. The game was still profitable by all reports and had a solid subscriber base even though it was f2p. It had great storylines and each issue / update was well done. Sad to see it go...
'Tis better to be unarmed or disarmed than DE-ARMED