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5/09/13 1:13:19 AM#21

I will give the OP credit that he makes some good points on the issue. However, SWTOR still is suffering from severe bugs and flawed mechanics due to EA and their greedy impatient ways. 

Unless SWTOR somehow manages to pull it's charred and mangled code from the fire of similar SWG-ish doom, I see no reason to believe EA won't trash any future Star Wars titles in a similar fashion.


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5/09/13 1:25:00 AM#22

Yes it is really good to give the worst company in the world, that completly ignore the costumers and destroy game company after game company turning them into shallow husks, and destroying good game licences and turning them into moneygrabbing shadows.... more proof that they are doing the right thing! That is EXACTLY what they need, to know they should continue exactly as planned, it really pays off.

I agree fully. the logic is flawless.

And I ask the same question. How much did they pay you for this commersial? I guess you are filthy rich now?

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It should be thrown with great force"


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5/09/13 3:09:01 AM#23

RIP, hopes for SWG 2.0

RIP, new X-Wing vs Tie Fighter or JTL 2




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5/09/13 3:28:32 AM#24

Excellent read.  I am not a big fan of EA, but then again they can't continue to get it wrong and make money.  They have some of the deepest pockets in the business, so that means funding will be far less of an issue.  Look at how Blizzard mucked up Diablo III.  Every publisher has it's problems.  Let us hope that EA will provide some great star wars entertainment in the future.

Hopefully they will grasp what was wrong with SWTOR and not repeat their mistakes.


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5/09/13 3:41:25 AM#25

EA make most of their money on the console market where people don't really care about the problems EA make simply because they never heard about it.

These are people who simply don't look for information about the company they are about to make more powerful by buying one of their games.

My sister is one of these people who don't really care what companies do. She just accept it and do their bidding like a fool.

My sister is the majority sadly.


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5/09/13 3:44:07 AM#26
I just want to add that i don't even pirate EA games anymore because the quality of those games are shit.

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5/09/13 3:47:29 AM#27

Good read but I still think EA was probably the worse choice Disney could have made.

EA sell over prices games missing tons of content that they then sell as DLC, basically charging the customer twice for the game or sometimes even more.

As for good star wars games

Dark Forces series + jedi knight games

Xwing + exp pack

Xwing v Tie Fighter

Xwing Alliance

Rebel Assault 1 + 2

Star Wars Galaxies

Knights of the old republic

Empire At War



After SWG things just got bad.. and i don't see them getting any better with EA.. anyway I hope Im wrong.



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5/09/13 3:49:43 AM#28
Originally posted by sketocafe

Here's the problem. We know what EA does with exclusive deals. Compare Madden and NCAA Football with EA's NHL and Football/soccer titles. The Hockey and Soccer games get substantial improvements year after year. The 'murican football games, for which EA has exclusive rights to player names, have stagnated with each year barely adding enough to not qualify as a mere roster update.

Yeah Dice can make a good shooter. The question is, will EA give them the funding and time they would have if Dice had to compete with Valve or Activision in the Star Wars shooter market?

Also, why are you talking about MMOs? Every news story I read when this broke stated that the licensing deal didn't cover online games, along with mobile and tablet stuff. Was this misreported?

The last exactly what I was thinking. The statement wording makes it sound as if EA has rights to make console/pc games but that Disney holds the rights to future online games. So does that mean mmo's as well ???


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5/09/13 4:20:39 AM#29
You do know that Bioware does not exist anymore right? EA were even thinking of dropping the BIoware name at the start of last year, but did not follow through. I guess with SWTOR coming up last year and their own name being mud they decided to keep it for now.

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5/09/13 4:21:56 AM#30
Originally posted by sumo0
I just want to add that i don't even pirate EA games anymore because the quality of those games are shit.


Sorry, two posts in a row. But this made my morning, well said sir! :)


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5/09/13 5:27:24 AM#31
Originally posted by Firnwind

A new Star Wars MMO is likely? Please thats ridiculous ... besides that MMOs take many years of development and many many millions which nobody in their right mind will invest again after SWTOR, the only thing that might happen is some more Mobile/Web-based browser game but EA won't ever make a real Star Wars MMO again, I am sure of it.


PS: And the story of KOTOR is done for good or worse... but I am sure we will see some stand in RPGs for the new movie timeframe.

Disney has billions and billions to throw at projects.  If they lose a million dollars on a project, it would barely scratch their bottom line.  EA for all their BS is a multi-million dollar company, probably approaching a billion.  I can't say for sure as I have not cared enough to look up their numbers.  My point being; you give every indication that you have no idea what you are talking about.  Of course there will be another Star Wars MMO, with SWTOR being such a heap of crap, someone will try and make a SW MMO that people like.  Will it work? hell I dunno, but I sure hope so.  And yes, I would love to see SWG 2.  But I am not sure that will ever happen.

I am no fan of EA, as a matter of fact I go out of my way to avoid their games, which usually isn't hard since they tend to be absolute shit.  However, with this much cash on the line, and IP that CAN make warehouses full of cash if done properly, I can see them putting a good team on these projects and hitting a home run.

However, recent history has shown that this is usually not the case.  In the end only time will tell, I really hope they turn it around and do some thing right for a change, but I am not holding my breath. 

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5/09/13 6:40:30 AM#32
They should make a star wars rts game.

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5/09/13 7:02:51 AM#33

After experiencing SWTOR, it's simply a fact that EA/BioWare have zero grasp on what is needed to create a good MMORPG.

EA's Warhammer & SWTOR are both redundant and boring "MMOs".



We most likely won't be playing a new Star Wars MMO for a good 10 years.


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5/09/13 7:18:50 AM#34
"I stand by my opinion that BioWare did a pretty good job with Star Wars: The Old Republic overall." This comment... Um... What?! What sweet lemonade jazz juice have you been sipping on and where can I get some? I mean seriously, you can't actually say that with a straight face can you?



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5/09/13 7:23:40 AM#35
Ea can never make a good mmorpg.. They lack the understanding and are too ignorant to learn how.

Sw ip is at an end.

Not really much more to say other than the old republic is not sw. It was an addon in an attempt to milk more cash out of the ip.

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5/09/13 7:55:23 AM#36

I think that Gearbox could have turned out a pretty decent SW shooter if they had the time and resources to do so. Ya, Duke sucked and Aliens was a joke, but there were other factors at play with both of those.


Republic Trooper, Order 66....yeah, I'd be there.

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5/09/13 9:39:16 AM#37
Originally posted by jpnz
Despite the hate EA gets, the games still sell millions. Maybe those that hate EA are the vocal minority?

I don't think it's that necessarily.  I think that people buy games based on the title first and foremost and who the publisher 2nd.  I know I've bought some games and that they were EA games came secondary.  I mean I got Sim City in spite of that I don't like buying from EA or through origin but because of my love for the game I bought it anyway - to my disappointment, of course. 



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5/09/13 9:43:08 AM#38
Originally posted by NL-Rikkert
So do tell for how much money did EA bribe you to post this again? It is no more than an advertisement for them.. All this makes me a sad lil gamer.

I used to love EA and own most of their games that predate the millenium. For over a decade the quality of both their games and service has dwindled to a point of no return. Nowadays I steer clear of all their products, to me they are no more than money hungry wolfs..

Am I the only one who remembers both their glory days AND the day they were named 'the worst company' ?
They need to clean up their act and dsliver proper products. Until then all my hope for a good SW title has died.

LOL.  I don't know if the writer did this as a paid advertisement for EA but I can see how it does seem like it's biased. 

I mean two big crappy companies get together to make even more big crappy decisions.. hmm no news here, move along.. :)

I have no great love for Disney although my hatred toward them is less than EA.  I just don't see anything good coming from this.



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5/09/13 9:49:05 AM#39

Since i am an oldtimer, i grew up with Star Wars and i'm sad to say that the IP has become meaningless for decades already. So,  i don't really understand the anger in which company gets what license, as it won't make any difference anymore.

There is no way back to the time before The Phantom Menace, a cartoon network kiddy show with a Yoda mascot and a countless amount of bad SW games. There is no company that can bring Star Wars back, as Lucas himself buried it deep long before many visitors of this site even started to play their first SW game.


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5/09/13 11:47:42 AM#40
Originally posted by InsaneDalek
Originally posted by NL-Rikkert
So do tell for how much money did EA bribe you to post this again? It is no more than an advertisement for them.. All this makes me a sad lil gamer.

I used to love EA and own most of their games that predate the millenium. For over a decade the quality of both their games and service has dwindled to a point of no return. Nowadays I steer clear of all their products, to me they are no more than money hungry wolfs..

Am I the only one who remembers both their glory days AND the day they were named 'the worst company' ?
They need to clean up their act and dsliver proper products. Until then all my hope for a good SW title has died.

I remember those days. When you saw that EA logo on a box, you knew you were getting a high quality product. Now it's hit or miss, really. I love the Dead Space games, and enjoy the new Simcity despite its problems. On the other hand, we have the complete ruination of the Mass Effect & Dragon Age series, the shift of Dead Space to pure action instead of action-horror, the increasing adoption of pay to win DLC, the shooter version of Syndicate (Seriously? Fire the marketing guy who thought THAT would do well), and the destruction of some of the greatest game development studios of all time (Bullfrog, Westwood, Pandemic, Bioware, Origin, etc.)

Oh yeah, and they killed Ultima, one of the most revolutionary series of CRPGs ever created, and home to the greatest CRPGs ever crafted by mortal men (Ultima 7 Parts 1 and 2).

I'm going to keep an open mind about anything they produce before predicting doom, but I'm not getting my hopes up either.

Also, I agree with the quoted poster in that EA obviously paid you to write this piece. I've read actual advertisements which make this piece look about as subtle as a train wreck on a boat by comparison.

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