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  Lustmord

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5/07/13 11:42:39 AM#21
Originally posted by fanglo
Originally posted by Zinzan

That's a really good and honest video, highlights the games strengths and weaknesses very clearly.

Now if only players would be willing to admit the serious problems DFUW has and the trolls acknowledge what the game does well prospective players might have access to the reality of this game rather than the fantasy you read on the forums to help them decide if its worthwhile them checking it out.

 

Yep, I agree. I'm still on the fence if I'm gonna play this game or not. I wish somoene would make a vid about crafting cause that's what I'm into.

Crafting is just like any other MMO. whack a node, take it back, refine it, craft.

It's very much automated. Queing up your crafting list and watching it go.

Where it differs from other MMO's is that all the gear is crafted. All of it breaks, and all is looted in pvp.. So there's a constant need for more items to be crafted.

Crafting skills include Weapon Smithing, Armor Smithing, Shield Smithing, Tailoring, Leatherworking, Construction, Ship Building, Alchemy, Staff Crafting, Tailoring.. and I'm probably missing something.

  Lustmord

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5/07/13 11:46:19 AM#22

Also cooking...

 

Here is AV's video on crafting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL-m_ac8ezU

  Blindchance

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5/07/13 12:19:49 PM#23
Amazing slideshow. I see nothing changed in terms of performance in "large" battles.
  Lustmord

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5/07/13 12:25:52 PM#24
Originally posted by Blindchance
Amazing slideshow. I see nothing changed in terms of performance in "large" battles.

your mileage may vary.

I didn't lag at all in that "large" battle.

  Herbertwest

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5/07/13 1:04:45 PM#25

Can't get any good armor from PVE, so all the armor in the game is crafted by others.  If they ever release the marketplace it will be awesome.  I would wait for them to actually release it until you try because they have a poor track record of putting out content & its been 6 month with very little.  They are still working on getting the game to work properly about a month into release w/ 6 months of testing.

Good game because clans are forced to work together to have any kind of experience.  You really can't just go out and do your own thing unless you are crafting, and by yourself that is slow as well.

  Lustmord

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5/07/13 2:17:13 PM#26
Originally posted by Herbertwest

Good game because clans are forced to work together to have any kind of experience.  You really can't just go out and do your own thing unless you are crafting, and by yourself that is slow as well.

This isn't really true. You can do almost anything solo. There's nothing stopping people from roaming solo with Rank 0-20 gear.

You won't get rank 40 as quickly, but you really don't need it.

 

Once the market releases, the game will be more solo crafter-friendly.

 

I wouldn't discourage people who like to solo from getting the game. I solo 90% of the time, and I'm on the brink of 20k prowess after a couple weeks.

  Herbertwest

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5/07/13 2:46:31 PM#27
Originally posted by Lustmord
Originally posted by Herbertwest

Good game because clans are forced to work together to have any kind of experience.  You really can't just go out and do your own thing unless you are crafting, and by yourself that is slow as well.

This isn't really true. You can do almost anything solo. There's nothing stopping people from roaming solo with Rank 0-20 gear.

You won't get rank 40 as quickly, but you really don't need it.

 

Once the market releases, the game will be more solo crafter-friendly.

 

I wouldn't discourage people who like to solo from getting the game. I solo 90% of the time, and I'm on the brink of 20k prowess after a couple weeks.

You can level up to a point, then it becomes frustrating.  There isn't any content or quests so playing solo is sort of like playing a normal mmorpg and leveling by just grinding mobs.  Without the clan mechanics like city building or group pvp it is pretty boring.  Not saying that some people don't get off on roaming around ganking miners, it just gets boring fast.

  Deerhunter71

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5/07/13 2:51:49 PM#28
Originally posted by Herbertwest
Originally posted by Lustmord
Originally posted by Herbertwest

Good game because clans are forced to work together to have any kind of experience.  You really can't just go out and do your own thing unless you are crafting, and by yourself that is slow as well.

This isn't really true. You can do almost anything solo. There's nothing stopping people from roaming solo with Rank 0-20 gear.

You won't get rank 40 as quickly, but you really don't need it.

 

Once the market releases, the game will be more solo crafter-friendly.

 

I wouldn't discourage people who like to solo from getting the game. I solo 90% of the time, and I'm on the brink of 20k prowess after a couple weeks.

You can level up to a point, then it becomes frustrating.  There isn't any content or quests so playing solo is sort of like playing a normal mmorpg and leveling by just grinding mobs.  Without the clan mechanics like city building or group pvp it is pretty boring.  Not saying that some people don't get off on roaming around ganking miners, it just gets boring fast.

Also AV has made cities practically useless anyhow.  Costs 3x more to build them and there is no real benefit.  You can do every single thing in all the safe zone cities...

  TribeofOne

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5/07/13 3:11:28 PM#29
that guy barking orders would've got on my nerves
  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/13 3:41:19 PM#30
Originally posted by Zinzan

That's a really good and honest video, highlights the games strengths and weaknesses very clearly.

Now if only players would be willing to admit the serious problems DFUW has and the trolls acknowledge what the game does well prospective players might have access to the reality of this game rather than the fantasy you read on the forums to help them decide if its worthwhile them checking it out.

 

Im completely new to the darkfall franchise so im not saying this as a fanboy, but besides their time between patches i have yet to see anything game breaking. Its very early in the mmo too keep in mind, what serious problems have you encountered?

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  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/13 3:42:56 PM#31
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Originally posted by Herbertwest
Originally posted by Lustmord
Originally posted by Herbertwest

Good game because clans are forced to work together to have any kind of experience.  You really can't just go out and do your own thing unless you are crafting, and by yourself that is slow as well.

This isn't really true. You can do almost anything solo. There's nothing stopping people from roaming solo with Rank 0-20 gear.

You won't get rank 40 as quickly, but you really don't need it.

 

Once the market releases, the game will be more solo crafter-friendly.

 

I wouldn't discourage people who like to solo from getting the game. I solo 90% of the time, and I'm on the brink of 20k prowess after a couple weeks.

You can level up to a point, then it becomes frustrating.  There isn't any content or quests so playing solo is sort of like playing a normal mmorpg and leveling by just grinding mobs.  Without the clan mechanics like city building or group pvp it is pretty boring.  Not saying that some people don't get off on roaming around ganking miners, it just gets boring fast.

Also AV has made cities practically useless anyhow.  Costs 3x more to build them and there is no real benefit.  You can do every single thing in all the safe zone cities...

Do you feel the need to bash every dfuw thread on here? Everyones entitled to an opinion but nothing you say is constructive, and half of the time its false.

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  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/13 3:45:11 PM#32
Originally posted by TribeofOne
that guy barking orders would've got on my nerves

Every good group has a leader.

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  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/13 3:47:54 PM#33
Originally posted by Mkilbride

Well honestly if they want any player base at all, they need a trial in some form.

 

AND NOT CHARGE. I read that the Darkfall 1 trial you had to PAY for...I can't believe that, even though it's 1$, you had to PAY for a trial! It's outrageous.  AV seem to be against being liked as developers and cash out as soon as possible.

 

The game itself may be fine, but the bad PR surrounding it ls like a laser fence keeping people away. It doesn't help when half the player base tells you to "Buy it now, if you buy it later, there won't be anyone left to play with" MMO's are supposed to be long term investments, not 2-3 months.

I agree with this to an extent, because a lot of those people would login to their trial get killed out of safe zone and log off.  Most people interested in this kind of niche game generally know if its for them or not, regardless though theres nothing bad about test driving something.

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  Hairysun

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Boo ....

5/07/13 4:42:58 PM#34
Originally posted by TribeofOne
that guy barking orders would've got on my nerves

 

Lol .... it is a necessity.  Without him it would have been even more chaotic than it already is.  A guy like that is just doing his job,  keep the channel clear and listen to what he says.  Otherwise you are of little benefit to the group and their immediate objectives.

http://www.straightdope.com/

  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/13 5:14:19 PM#35
Originally posted by Hairysun
Originally posted by TribeofOne
that guy barking orders would've got on my nerves

 

Lol .... it is a necessity.  Without him it would have been even more chaotic than it already is.  A guy like that is just doing his job,  keep the channel clear and listen to what he says.  Otherwise you are of little benefit to the group and their immediate objectives.

This.  Thats exactly why our losses were basically non existent (i think 2-3 people actually got ganked) and there's were not.  If you listen to their video, all you hear is "Im down" or something completely irrelevant to the task at hand. No coordination, as our leader said.  

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  Mkilbride

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5/07/13 8:15:48 PM#36
Yeah, about the worst part of the video, besides the music, was the guy shouting orders like an Armchair general. How is he not so embarrassed he dies?

Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/13 8:41:15 PM#37
Originally posted by Mkilbride
Yeah, about the worst part of the video, besides the music, was the guy shouting orders like an Armchair general. How is he not so embarrassed he dies?

Thats standard for any legit pvp game lol Unless you want you and your clan to be slaughtered due to lack of coordination.  

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  Mkilbride

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5/08/13 4:42:44 PM#38
People shouldn't need such a thing. They should know what to do on instinct, or you're doing it -very- wrong.

Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

  Chrisbox

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OP  5/08/13 8:00:03 PM#39
Originally posted by Mkilbride
People shouldn't need such a thing. They should know what to do on instinct, or you're doing it -very- wrong.

Lol I like how you have a camelot unchained pvp game funding bio, yet don't know what communication is required in a good pvp game, or atleast what is required to be good at said game.  Why dont you go teach every good clan in any MMO how to play since they are using vent and communicating too.  Seriously...This applies to EVERY game, you can't even raid in tab target themeparks like WoW without vent.  

 

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  Mkilbride

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5/08/13 9:22:24 PM#40

I've played MMO's for over a decade now. I didn't start with MUDS, like some, but I was there in the early days.

 

I think if VOIP is needed in any kind of PVP, you've done a poor job of making PVP.

Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

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