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  danwest58

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5/02/13 8:45:19 AM#21
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by danwest58
Originally posted by LlexX
  1. Harsher death penalty
  2. Lower PvP damage
  3. More opened zones on the 3rd continent
  4. Less safe zones

These what came to my mind now, there are a lot more tho...

Yea like thats going to make ArcheAge any money because there is a big Market for Mortal Online MMOs out there.  Mortal Online has what 5000 people at most maybe?  Thats going to make you what.  A few hundred thousand dollars for a Multimillion Dollar game.  What a great business plan that is to loose money by making your market as niche as possible. 

 

Darkfall has been  sold 150k clients copys, even if retention rate was low it clearly shows there is a market and intrest for harsher rules.

 

If you think 150K players are going to to sustain a game long term in todays MMO market you got another gusse coming.  The only way an MMO will be sustained on 150K is if it has a cash shop and forces people to buy stuff from it.  With MMOs costing Millions of Dollars to make today a few hundred thousand accounts just will not do.  We have too many MMOs on the market as it is.  

  Thorkune

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5/02/13 8:52:54 AM#22

None of these gargantuan weapons:

 

  User Deleted
5/02/13 9:09:19 AM#23

Limit any RNG in relation to weapon/gear enchanting or similar boosts.

Eastern games seem to love the repetitive try - fail - grind money - try - fail - grind money - try  - fail etc etc 

But this just seems to drive a lot of players to the exit door in the western market. 

 

Secondly, get the support sorted out. Hopefully with Trion handling this it will be better than eu's recent experiences with Tera/Gameforge. Not sure how it could be worse than that lot really.

I understand this will be Trion's first time as an eastern games publisher. Let's hope there is a fast communication and response path between them and the eastern development team.

Had enough of this - "we have forwarded the issue back to the developer and are waiting a response" - which translates to "you are going to hear nothing about this for several weeks, if at all".

 

  steelwind

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5/02/13 11:16:25 AM#24
Originally posted by DAS1337
Originally posted by steelwind

I hope they just translate only, the game is great just how it is, not too hardcore while at the same time far from casual.

Although we already know there will be changes to character customization which also makes sense.

Truth be told I feel there is room for a more hardcore server ruleset in addition to the standard that we see now. I do believe a less hardcore server ruleset will not work and could be game breaking.

How can a seperate server with an alternate ruleset ever be game breaking?

 

I want to pull out my hair when you guys make these comments.  I personally don't want a PVE only server, but at the same time, I see no problem at all if there was such a server.  How would it be game breaking if you didn't play on that server?  You just remove PvP from the continent and let people build there as well.  In fact, a continent with infinite possibilities, where they could design it in any way they deem fit doesn't exactly sound like a bad idea.  It could be a huge adventure zone for raid content.  It could be for player industry only, It could be a giant race course.  I mean, you could literealy go in any direction.

 

People are just too caught up in insulting others for ideas, not because they are bad, but because it's not the way they want it to be done.  And any other way is blasphemous and could never work.  Then when you actually put some intelligent thought into it, you realize that it could have the potential to be pretty cool.  After all, what is the issue with one out of fifty servers being a little different?  You're not going to play on that server, so why should you even care?  What, just because you want others to suffer?  You are that much of a dick that you can't make one compromise?  That's sad.

A PvE server ruleset would be game breaking simple due to the fact that gold would no longer have value if the risk was removed. The number one most effient way to make gold in AA is by doing trade runs or piracy against those doing the runs. Every time you do a trade run, there is a high risk of failure if you are caught. If that risk was taken away, everyone would be rich and gold would loose it's value. Especially considering that the biggest rewards come from venturing into enemy territory to deliver your goods, you must have the risk to get your reward.

  maccarthur2004

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5/02/13 12:15:01 PM#25
Originally posted by DAS1337
Originally posted by steelwind

I hope they just translate only, the game is great just how it is, not too hardcore while at the same time far from casual.

Although we already know there will be changes to character customization which also makes sense.

Truth be told I feel there is room for a more hardcore server ruleset in addition to the standard that we see now. I do believe a less hardcore server ruleset will not work and could be game breaking.

How can a seperate server with an alternate ruleset ever be game breaking?

 

I want to pull out my hair when you guys make these comments.  I personally don't want a PVE only server, but at the same time, I see no problem at all if there was such a server.  How would it be game breaking if you didn't play on that server?  You just remove PvP from the continent and let people build there as well.  In fact, a continent with infinite possibilities, where they could design it in any way they deem fit doesn't exactly sound like a bad idea.  It could be a huge adventure zone for raid content.  It could be for player industry only, It could be a giant race course.  I mean, you could literealy go in any direction.

 

People are just too caught up in insulting others for ideas, not because they are bad, but because it's not the way they want it to be done.  And any other way is blasphemous and could never work.  Then when you actually put some intelligent thought into it, you realize that it could have the potential to be pretty cool.  After all, what is the issue with one out of fifty servers being a little different?  You're not going to play on that server, so why should you even care?  What, just because you want others to suffer?  You are that much of a dick that you can't make one compromise?  That's sad.

 

I would agree if you was speaking of any other mmo, but with archeage i need to agree with the other guy: archeage without pvp is crap. This game was made from the ground and in every aspect to have pvp, and is the pvp the devs hope to avoid the "themepark trap", retaining players after the "endgame".

 

 

"What we are aiming in ArcheAge is to let the players feel the true fun of MMORPG by forming a community like real life by interacting with other players, whether it be conflict or cooperation." (Jake Song)

  k11keeper

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5/02/13 12:22:57 PM#26
As much as I've enjoyed games in the past with little to no PvP this game needs it. PvP seems to be the central focus and like others have pointed out is necessary. Someone the other day posted a narration of a night they had going after the Kraken and it sounded like a blast. From what it sounds like actually fighting the kraken is fairly uneventful but the unsewing battles over the kraken or delivering the packages dropped from the kraken is where the real fun is. Understanding this, the game would probably be very bland at best with just bland PvE battles that seem to pop up in most every game these days. With that extra dimension of PvP fighting over these bosses it can remain exciting and different at almost every attempt for a boss.
  Sebali

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OP  5/02/13 2:39:11 PM#27
Originally posted by LlexX
Originally posted by Sebali

XL origionally planned on having a full fledged taming of pets. this was scrapped for the current "everyone gets a companion" idea. 

I would love for Trion to revisit this and make it so those with the correct skills would be able to tame the wild animals in the game world. would add so much more to the game than simply having everyone running around with a different color wolf.

Taming is there, not sure about the live server, but its present on the test server, you can tame bosses (4-6 of them currently):

http://archeagesource.com/topic/1064-battle-pets-wolf-cbt5/?p=26429

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=iTRZ7oGSXsc

is this taming available to everyone or just those with the needed skills?

  Juaks

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5/02/13 2:39:17 PM#28
Nothing but translation...Keep the red light district please!
  steelwind

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5/02/13 2:50:57 PM#29
Originally posted by Sebali
Originally posted by LlexX
Originally posted by Sebali

XL origionally planned on having a full fledged taming of pets. this was scrapped for the current "everyone gets a companion" idea. 

I would love for Trion to revisit this and make it so those with the correct skills would be able to tame the wild animals in the game world. would add so much more to the game than simply having everyone running around with a different color wolf.

Taming is there, not sure about the live server, but its present on the test server, you can tame bosses (4-6 of them currently):

http://archeagesource.com/topic/1064-battle-pets-wolf-cbt5/?p=26429

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=iTRZ7oGSXsc

is this taming available to everyone or just those with the needed skills?

Anyone can tame, just need to craft the net to do so.

  Punk999

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5/06/13 11:06:04 AM#30
Just everything in english thats it.

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  stragen001

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Mr Flibble is VERY cross

5/06/13 11:11:53 AM#31
Westernized character models please.

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  Gabiru

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5/07/13 8:17:58 AM#32
Originally posted by k11keeper
Outside of translating to english, nothing. If i wanted to play a western game I would.

+1

  k11keeper

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5/07/13 10:57:15 AM#33
Originally posted by stragen001
Westernized character models please.

Can the people who continue to say this give a bit of an explanation? I'm confused by this and have to assume you haven't even looked at the character models or how in depth the customization tools are. Or you have mistaken AA for other games like TERA.

Edit or you've only seen pictures of the Hariharans who are admittedly asian fantasy influenced and have not seen any of the pictures of the Nuins who look very western.

  Caldrin

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5/07/13 10:58:18 AM#34
Originally posted by Sovrath

less "cutsey" stuff.

 

THIS...

 

My 3D models
http://dragon3d.webs.com/

  Onomas

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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

5/07/13 11:00:39 AM#35
I dont want this game westernized, we have enough trash as it is on the western market. Do you even know what that would do to this game? Western gamers are lazy and are not creative... they want everything free and easy.... and it ruins mmorpg's.
  Sovrath

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5/07/13 11:02:39 AM#36
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
 

 

MMORPG's are all about getting ALL people to play on 1 !  seamsless world.

As long as you add and don't remove you don't violate the MMORPG designe rules and you don't become bad games like the last decade showed which introduced and tainted with single player mentality into MMORPG .  PvE only violates this rule.

no.

MMORPG's are all about getting ALL LIKE MINDED people on 1! seamless world.

PvE doens't violate this rule.

  k11keeper

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5/07/13 11:14:01 AM#37
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by Sovrath

less "cutsey" stuff.

THIS...

I know what you mean this boss is such a cuty pie isn't he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzxdDFbZjWM

  edenzero

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5/07/13 12:34:52 PM#38

 

the single player mentality came with the games which let you ''complete'' the whole game alone, purely alone like if it were a console for make it worse avoiding any kind of encounters with enemies (pvp), so in the end they are like a retards doing instance over and over and over and apparently for them that is the competition and end game...trash games.

but the pve doesnt violate anything, its a must in this genre, without it wont be rpg, everything spins around pve, you pvp for pve for pvp just like Lineage 2 used to do, and did it right (thought stupid 2billion mobs for level up jesus christ) but that game did it right, you had from crafters/farmers to pvpers in one single world working together, i remember the rps in giran since i never really use to do that i just used to see only.

the failure in companies which still want to cater to ''console casual mmo players'' which in fact those are the ones which leave in like 2 weeks or 2 months max for play the next console mmo game, those are the ones which dont make the world feel alive, are the ones which dont fill servers and more likely are the ones which whine a lot if they find something they cant do alone, they should stick to consoles/single player stuff.

open world or seamless world for just the sake of being free isnt good too, is boring, you must make use of it, players must feel the world and play around doing everything, have encounters, give them a reason for do the stuff, as well designed for you to do your own stuff in your own pace, so you arent like an idiot in forums asking ''when is the next expansion'', just like EVE does right now, here is the game, do whatever you want (almost) thought iam not fan at all of spaceship stuff.

thought would be cool to have everyone in just one server...but i supose technology isnt that good yet for support that

  Karelia

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5/07/13 12:36:35 PM#39
no ''big eyes'' on models pls...
  ElRenmazuo

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5/07/13 4:17:45 PM#40
Originally posted by k11keeper
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by Sovrath

less "cutsey" stuff.

THIS...

I know what you mean this boss is such a cuty pie isn't he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzxdDFbZjWM

he kind of is actually...i want a mini-squeeky toy version of him.

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