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  azmundai

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Joined: 3/18/10
Posts: 1422

5/01/13 10:09:40 PM#21

just out of curiosity, how much $$ is 600 Cartel Coins?

LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  dasnoz

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Joined: 9/30/05
Posts: 1

5/01/13 10:17:25 PM#22
600 cartel coins is like $6 usd
  reeereee

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 683

5/01/13 10:25:12 PM#23
Originally posted by Panzerbase
This is really bad, I would be much happier if they had chosen to introduce new classes. A new class or two would have been a nice shot in the arm for the game, but this? No thanks. 

True new classes would require new 1-50 class story lines, which would likely make them far more expensive than a new race...  if they're complaining about the cost of a new race I can't imagine them ever adding a new class.  It would also make pvp and pve more challenging to balance.

  Bouma

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Joined: 8/23/12
Posts: 2

5/02/13 12:55:54 AM#24

I am not a big fan of Cathar race. Like many mention, they choose the wrong race to test the market. I would have even prefered a JAWA over a Cathar. I also think, Classes over Races would have been much better to offer. With the choice of 8 Classes, which are actually clone from one side to another, offering new species, will only make the player wondering, if he/she should start another character for the ... 3rd time or switch race on the kiosk. Some people will simply not go for it.

Having special dye colors on the Cartel market? i wonder which colors will there be. Not sure people will be happy to, HAVE TO PAY for their favorite color. They might do, but not make them happy about it.

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 4822

5/02/13 1:32:46 AM#25
Originally posted by MyBoot
EA are saying how expensive it was to create a new race and are still up in the air about doing it again if this one does not work out to well.  Well how much would it cost to create a new class and all the issues that would create ? if a race is almost to much could we never see a new class then ?

 It's a joke and outright lie. What EA does best. Blow things up for Marketing purposes.

How much does it cost to change a facial skin and label it as a new race?

The entire body stays humanoid, so they don't have to do anything about clothing/armor.

That's why you won't see any "REAL" races coming in, like Wookie or Jawa. As that actually does require a lot of work.

  vadess40

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Joined: 1/15/13
Posts: 38

5/02/13 1:54:22 AM#26
Wow... Didn't take long for a couple of complainers to voice their opinion... Makes me wish they'd pass a bit of the free time they have on their hands over to me as I could use some- not to troll around a game I don't like, mind you, but a few spare minutes would be nice. That being said, I'm gonna enjoy the customization features. As an RP-er, my human juggernaut has been through quite a few battles. It would make sense if she ended up with cybernetic implants due to this. Also, it would be cool to change some of characters' species, like my trooper to a chiss or my zabrak assassin to a pureblood and that sort of thing.
  User Deleted
5/02/13 2:34:20 AM#27
Originally posted by vadess40
Wow... Didn't take long for a couple of complainers to voice their opinion... Makes me wish they'd pass a bit of the free time they have on their hands over to me as I could use some- not to troll around a game I don't like, mind you, but a few spare minutes would be nice. That being said, I'm gonna enjoy the customization features. As an RP-er, my human juggernaut has been through quite a few battles. It would make sense if she ended up with cybernetic implants due to this. Also, it would be cool to change some of characters' species, like my trooper to a chiss or my zabrak assassin to a pureblood and that sort of thing.

I agree with you a lot. Please give me some free time so i can just enjoy my games.

  jbombard

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Joined: 11/06/08
Posts: 454

5/02/13 5:16:21 AM#28

They need more things to be outright free to people who sub.  

 

Also, it makes me sad they used Cathar as the race to test the waters with.  I think  there are people interested in other races, but the Cathar isn't a particularly good example of a classic star wars race fans are clamoring to play.  They really need to stick to a race that has at least a brief appearance in one of the movies.  If nobody buys Cathar I just hope they realize it isn't because people don't want new races it is simply people don't want Cathar.

  Skuz

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Joined: 12/25/08
Posts: 1038

"If you can''t laugh at yourself there''s always someone around to show you how it''s done!"

5/02/13 5:47:51 AM#29
You don't need to play through the stories again just to experience a new species, you'll be able to change the species for existing characters.
 
Edit1: For those moaning & complaining, well,  what else is a cash-shop for other than cosmetic "fluff" ? This kind of stuff is exactly what a cash shop should be restricted to, unless you WANT pay to win in your cash shop.
 
Also the costs are well-within the cartel-coins awarded to subscribers as part of their subscription, plus they get a hefty discount on the cost of customisations.
 
Edit 2: Odd, my edit wasn't showing. Had to re-edit.
  Skuz

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Posts: 1038

"If you can''t laugh at yourself there''s always someone around to show you how it''s done!"

5/02/13 5:54:51 AM#30
edits not showing up?
  mlauzon

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Joined: 6/21/05
Posts: 777

5/02/13 6:33:06 AM#31
Now only if they could rewrite the whole game engine and make it into an action oriented MMORPG, like TERA, D&D:Neverwinter, etc!

--
Michael

  ksternal

Novice Member

Joined: 11/14/12
Posts: 74

5/02/13 7:02:54 AM#32
So happy I cancelled my sub. When the devs are more concerned with flair then actual player story arcs and address the lack of  PvP matches and open world PvP.
  Vlacke

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/15/11
Posts: 154

5/02/13 8:13:04 AM#33

[mod edit]

New race and an addition of customization features are a good thing indeed.

I am not a fan of Cathar race as well, but the fact of the matter is that this race was ranked rather well in the old polls at the game's forums, with most popular choices being Wookies and Togruta (most popular by far in all polls and discussions).

  BadOrb

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Joined: 1/11/13
Posts: 717

5/02/13 11:52:28 AM#34

I see a lot of people confused about what might be next etc. Well there won't be any new classes as it would take a very long time to implement ( they have said ). Also the reason why we won't get wookies or jawas as playable races is because they don't speak basic ( English ). As iv'e said before they tried an alien speaking player character in an early build on tython and after a few missions the dev just wanted to smack his face on either the screen or his keyboard , i forgot which one.

These QOL updates and new race are all well and good but I'm awaiting news on more actual content , maybe the rakghoul plague soon ? Then hopefully a new planet , eventually. Mind you funnily enough I'm really enjoying the new end-game dailys , very odd for me , but there you go.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

 

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  Pixel_Jockey

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Joined: 3/21/13
Posts: 173

5/02/13 11:55:44 AM#35
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by MyBoot
EA are saying how expensive it was to create a new race and are still up in the air about doing it again if this one does not work out to well.  Well how much would it cost to create a new class and all the issues that would create ? if a race is almost to much could we never see a new class then ?

 It's a joke and outright lie. What EA does best. Blow things up for Marketing purposes.

How much does it cost to change a facial skin and label it as a new race?

The entire body stays humanoid, so they don't have to do anything about clothing/armor.

That's why you won't see any "REAL" races coming in, like Wookie or Jawa. As that actually does require a lot of work.

^ This x100

  BadOrb

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Joined: 1/11/13
Posts: 717

5/02/13 12:06:28 PM#36
Originally posted by Pixel_Jockey
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by MyBoot
EA are saying how expensive it was to create a new race and are still up in the air about doing it again if this one does not work out to well.  Well how much would it cost to create a new class and all the issues that would create ? if a race is almost to much could we never see a new class then ?

 It's a joke and outright lie. What EA does best. Blow things up for Marketing purposes.

How much does it cost to change a facial skin and label it as a new race?

The entire body stays humanoid, so they don't have to do anything about clothing/armor.

That's why you won't see any "REAL" races coming in, like Wookie or Jawa. As that actually does require a lot of work.

^ This x100

Not true read post above ^ , there won't be wookies or jawas because they don't speak basic. How many times do I have to post that lol. Sheesh!

Cheers,

BadOrb.

PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing.
"SWG was not fun. Let it go buddy." quote from iiNoSkillzii 10/18/13
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  daltanious

Elite Member

Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 1676

5/03/13 3:17:44 AM#37

For me swtor is best game ever, on throne along with wow. I do not have big complains but for one thing. Swtor badly need option for MULTIPLE builds! At least dual (like wow) or 5 (as I remember had Rift since start). Purchasing legacy for on field respec on fly is NOT an alternative. I really can not believe they have not included this at launch.

  robmartin519

Novice Member

Joined: 5/03/13
Posts: 3

5/03/13 4:52:11 AM#38
Originally posted by Coolit

The only thing I don’t like about this update is that it seems to be primarily focused on Cartel purchases, I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come. Really I want to see updates in the future that don’t require additional cost to unlock or use patch features.

 

  robmartin519

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Joined: 5/03/13
Posts: 3

5/03/13 4:57:46 AM#39
Originally posted by Coolit

The only thing I don’t like about this update is that it seems to be primarily focused on Cartel purchases, I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come. Really I want to see updates in the future that don’t require additional cost to unlock or use patch features.

That is a good point, but subscribers get a small alotment of cartel coins a month don't they?  I know that I get 600 every month, but that is probably cause I picked the 6 mo subscription option.
  simmihi

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Posts: 501

5/03/13 5:04:40 AM#40

"BioWare has publicly stated that developing the Cathar was very costly" - really? Are they doing something different than attaching a new type of "head" on the same body types, exactly like all the other races? I cannot see what was so "costly" about it.

Really, we need more content patches and less fluff patches. Nothing wrong about fluff, but that's mostly something "extra" after you've solved one of the game's main problem - the lack of content and variety. New planets, new leveling paths, increased mob variety, new story line chapters, more choices?

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