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  BlastoTheRocketBoy

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4/28/13 5:29:04 PM#41
Originally posted by Tokenaru
PWE is P2W everyone knows this.  All of thier games are highly pay to win, they make thier money overseas where they like that sort of thing.  Launching it here is just bonus for them.

P2W or grind your face off. Wants his cake and and a handjob while it gets fed to him via teleportation. The grind aint gonna be that bad if your smart... look at the IG systems man... there are..."things" to be put together and profited from if your not a whiney dip. /removesilverspoonfromass

  Ginaz

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4/28/13 5:30:24 PM#42
Originally posted by ZedTheRock
Originally posted by stayontarget

Are those items even needed?

 

Of course their not, the only reason he is pissed is because he can;t afford it and wants them.  Might I add its also better then TSW since NWO you only need to make 1 or 2 big purchases like that,  In TSW its niockle and diming to death every other day. 

Slightly off topic, but there is nothing sold in TSW shop that you have to have in order to play, apart from maybe the dlc packs.  The rest is 100% fluff/cosmetic and convenience.

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  Aerowyn

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4/28/13 5:30:32 PM#43
Originally posted by Tokenaru
PWE is P2W everyone knows this.  All of thier games are highly pay to win, they make thier money overseas where they like that sort of thing.  Launching it here is just bonus for them.

what is pay to win in neverwinter? guess i have a very differn't view of what p2w means

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Aerowyn

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4/28/13 5:37:26 PM#44
on another note what does having T3 gear really matter in this game.. it's not a PVP focused game it's not a raiding focused game.. it's a small dungeon and dungeon creator focused game.. just curious as to what it matters if you have T3 gear now or in 6 months if you happen to be playing that long.. guess i just don't understand that mentallity and how it would really apply to this game

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  simmihi

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4/28/13 5:38:01 PM#45

When people rage like this for prices like in Neverwinter, it really makes me laugh. You guys have never seen what the real cash grab looks like, I know people spending 700 bucks on gamble boxes for a mount (and at the end not getting the mount) in Atlantica Online. And there that mount really comes with stats. People spending thousands per month in Maple Story. And the list goes on.

Neverwinter is a heaven compared to the "real" free to play cash grab. Anything which can be actually played for free, paying only for cosmetics (and yes mounts are included here), has excellent value for people not willing to spend much (if even at all)

  red_cruiser

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4/28/13 5:39:04 PM#46
If you've played the game enough that you are already worrying about end game companion advancement, I'm not exactly sure you deserve a refund.  If you are looking ahead, worried about the prices... these things will all go on sale eventually.  The overabundance of China in this game really does detract from it, but high prices are to be expected considering the game was just released.
  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5012

 
OP  4/28/13 5:41:22 PM#47
I guess you havent noticed the nightmare lockboxes yet and the spam on the middle of your screen?
  Alber_gamer

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Joined: 10/08/12
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4/28/13 5:45:23 PM#48
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Tokenaru
PWE is P2W everyone knows this.  All of thier games are highly pay to win, they make thier money overseas where they like that sort of thing.  Launching it here is just bonus for them.

what is pay to win in neverwinter? guess i have a very differn't view of what p2w means

I'm curious too. Maybe some people think that moving a 5% faster in town is winning? 

 

Imagine all the races you can win to get to the dungeon 5 seconds before everyone else, and all the awesome loot you get for it.

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  Aerowyn

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4/28/13 5:46:11 PM#49
Originally posted by JeroKane
I guess you havent noticed the nightmare lockboxes yet and the spam on the middle of your screen?

aren't 10 keys like 10 bucks? i don't do lockboxes myself as I never feel its worth the money but that is nothing compared to other f2p games.. i'm going to take a guess and assume you haven't played many f2p games in the past

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  MidBoss

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4/28/13 5:47:15 PM#50

I'm always baffled how whenever people talk about cash shop prices, more people will side with the company.

Lets put the "required" argument aside.

Do people really believe 40$ is okay for a single character mount?

  Aerowyn

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4/28/13 5:51:15 PM#51
Originally posted by MidBoss

I'm always baffled how whenever people talk about cash shop prices, more people will side with the company.

Lets put the "required" argument aside.

Do people really believe 40$ is okay for a single character mount?

if people are willing to pay then i'd say yes.. i'd never in my life pay that much for a mount but if they can justify charging that much since people are actually paying that i can't really say much.. I also take into account what I can get ingame without spending cash.. if i can get a mount with same stats then i really could care less

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  JeroKane

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OP  4/28/13 5:51:20 PM#52
@Aerowyn. No I always avoided F2P games like the plague.

Neverwinter has just reminded me again as to why. ;-)
  Aerowyn

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4/28/13 5:52:24 PM#53
Originally posted by JeroKane
@Aerowyn. No I always avoided F2P games like the plague.

Neverwinter has just reminded me again as to why. ;-)

makes sense then. NW is really nothing compared to most f2p games from companies like gpotato, aeria, and hell even pw other games are a lot worse

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Lord.Bachus

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I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can.

4/28/13 5:55:14 PM#54
Originally posted by Tokenaru
PWE is P2W everyone knows this.  All of thier games are highly pay to win, they make thier money overseas where they like that sort of thing.  Launching it here is just bonus for them.

Nicely backed up with facts...

 

Cant find anything to proof your statement in the Neverwinter gamestore..

 

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Yaevindusk

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Logic, reason and fact do not supersede human nature. Ignorance reigns without justice.

4/28/13 5:56:05 PM#55
Originally posted by Emeraq
Wait... You're requesting a refund because you don't want to pay the listed prices for other items in the cash shop???  I truly hope you are declined, as you clearly state the game is fun and decently designed, so you clearly aren't unhappy with the product you received.. it's the other products that you haven't even paid for that you are pissed about... Some people amaze me.

 

This kind've made me quirk an eyebrow as well.  The things mentioned aren't even required to play the game, and the OP said the game play is fun.  Why then is this a probelm with a game that you have option to play free?  I'm not even sure how this makes sense even when trying to concoct possibilities in my head.  Perhaps if someone is easily jealous of something they see in game and get upset over an aesthetic they don't want to buy.   Maybe that affects gameplay?  Mentality?  The game doesn't suffer from the cash shop, and there's nothing in there that an absolute requirement (or can't be purchased with currency earned in game).  

It's just a matter of having to spend time to get something and not have it handed to you unless you support the game company.  The prices could be as insane as they want, it will just make it so people who are prone to impulse buys will be less likely to make these purchases.  As they are purchases and not simply "micro transactions" whereby it's a small thing that costs a small amount to the point of you saying to yourself "meh, it's just a couple dollars".

If anything the high prices hurt their ability to make money, and not directly affect gameplay as a whole as they're not even needed at all.

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  Tyvolus4

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Posts: 163

4/28/13 5:58:35 PM#56
Originally posted by JeroKane

I have never ever requested a refund before. But today I did. I requested a refund for the Guardian Founder Pack.

I don't mind to work a little to get decent items in a game.

I don't mind the studio's need to make some cash via the Item Shop.

But with the current ingame prices on vendors (currency / AD). Wow! It puts the average Asian grinder to shame.

But with the current prices on the Zen shop for a T3 mount / T3 companion.  35 - 40 dollars/euro PER character (not even account wide)!! Sorry you used to buy an entire MMO expansion for those prices.

The game is fun and gameplay decent done. It's the ingame vendors and Zen Cash Shop that instantly turned me off from this game!

Even with Cryptic's other games (CO and STO) it's not this bad. And most likely due to those games not been F2P in beginning and so have a different ingame / cash shop balance.

Sorry.... but for me Cryptic has reached a new low again.

Shame me once with CO. Shame me twice with STO. Neverwinter is third strike and out!

not every game is as easy as WoW to progress.

  Draemos

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4/28/13 6:04:45 PM#57
Originally posted by stayontarget

Are those items even needed?

 

Nope.

  Ikeda

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4/28/13 6:05:43 PM#58

Why are you people defending $30-$40 mounts?

Why do you immediately reply "this isn't easy like WoW"?

I swear, some people just troll to troll.

Sorry Jero, it's disappointing to hear as I was considering giving this badboy a good free throw and see...

  Aerowyn

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4/28/13 6:11:01 PM#59
Originally posted by Ikeda

Why are you people defending $30-$40 mounts?

Why do you immediately reply "this isn't easy like WoW"?

I swear, some people just troll to troll.

Sorry Jero, it's disappointing to hear as I was considering giving this badboy a good free throw and see...

not defending just saying why even buy it? its not needed and you can get equivalent mounts with AD so i don't really see an issue when it comes to OPs complaints thats all

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Draemos

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4/28/13 6:12:55 PM#60
Originally posted by Ikeda

Why are you people defending $30-$40 mounts?

Why do you immediately reply "this isn't easy like WoW"?

I swear, some people just troll to troll.

Sorry Jero, it's disappointing to hear as I was considering giving this badboy a good free throw and see...

Because we don't care,  don't buy the damn mount.  Apparently people are buying the mount, and the people buying the mount are the ones funding your ability to play a game for free.

i get it, you want to play free and have quick access to the games fluff items too.  I want a buy a house on the beach in the Bahamas for $10 ... Life's a bitch, that's not how it works.

is the zen store overpriced?  Damn right it is.  But people obviously pay those prices, and that's how the game funds itself so you and me can play for absolutely free... So what exactly are you complaining about?  If you really want to piss and moan, do so to the players that pay $40 for a mount, they are the ones that keep the prices high.  Just realize the massive amount of money they are dumping into the game is going towards new content, classes, etc.... So you are basically slapping the hand that feeds you your free game.

 

 

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