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  Theocritus

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Joined: 7/15/08
Posts: 3604

4/25/13 3:09:22 PM#21
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by Herbie3000
Would so play this game if it didn't require a sub :(

If you can't afford the sub to a game like this, then it probably isn't for you anyway. This is full loot with consequences, F2P doesn't work here. Use your brain for a second.

 You gotta love the total snob approach to a game.....

  Niburu

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Joined: 11/12/12
Posts: 300

4/25/13 3:47:14 PM#22
Originally posted by ShakyMo
I'm guessing it works gear wise like eve

If youre just going out mining you take a ship you can afford to loose.

If youre taking part in a battle with your corp which you must win, or else you loose some prime territory, you bring your best.

It's a sort of gambling, you weigh up what gear you can afford to loose vs the gains you could make or the losses you could prevent by taking part in an activity.

you got it right. and to get these items you need the good spawns....now territory control kicks in.

  niceguy3978

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4/25/13 4:01:30 PM#23
Originally posted by Sarariel
Why is it's sub price so much more expensive?

Than what?  14.99 is pretty standard for a subscription.  The only thing really different is most sub games offer a bit of a discount if you sub for more than one month at a time and I don't think  that is the case with Darkfall (though I could very well be wrong).

  h0urg1ass

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Joined: 11/29/05
Posts: 288

4/25/13 4:08:02 PM#24

Why do most of the threads on this site devolve into F2P vs Sub  catfights?

Steam drops an awesome new bit of SERVICE on us and the first post is a whine that every game in the univserse hasn't opened itself up the completely useless freeloading gamer crowd.

Blows my mind.

  Onigod

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Posts: 686

4/25/13 4:14:25 PM#25
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by Herbie3000
Would so play this game if it didn't require a sub :(

If you can't afford the sub to a game like this, then it probably isn't for you anyway. This is full loot with consequences, F2P doesn't work here. Use your brain for a second.

Full loot is so hardcore because it makes players pick one of dozens of suits of armor from their bank each time they die.  Actually, that sounds about as hardcore as the gold cost to repair equipment in WoW.

If only you knew anything about this game. Yea you can have dozens and dozens of armor sets if its crap... in df1 armor was not a big unfluence  in Darkfall unholy wars it is.  Some stuff is going to be to expensive/ time consuming to create for anyone to run careless around with it.

 

Please dont talk about anything you have no knowledge of.

  ShakyMo

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4/25/13 4:25:02 PM#26
Why is it £12.49 though, most mmos are £8.99
  ironhelix

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Joined: 5/13/08
Posts: 465

4/25/13 4:27:27 PM#27
Originally posted by Theocritus
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by Herbie3000
Would so play this game if it didn't require a sub :(

If you can't afford the sub to a game like this, then it probably isn't for you anyway. This is full loot with consequences, F2P doesn't work here. Use your brain for a second.

 You gotta love the total snob approach to a game.....

How is this the snob approach? First of all, F2P is pretty much universally MORE expensive than a subscription, and furthermore, if you are ready to throw money at in-game items that you can immediately lose by having them looted as soon as you leave town, then you must not be very concerned about your money. What you guys are asking for would cost you FAR more than a subscription. But hey, people like you are exactly why F2P exists in the first place.

  bestever

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Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 562

4/25/13 4:53:11 PM#28
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by Herbie3000
Would so play this game if it didn't require a sub :(

If you can't afford the sub to a game like this, then it probably isn't for you anyway. This is full loot with consequences, F2P doesn't work here. Use your brain for a second.

Full loot is so hardcore because it makes players pick one of dozens of suits of armor from their bank each time they die.  Actually, that sounds about as hardcore as the gold cost to repair equipment in WoW.

That's not the point. The point is that monetizing a full loot game means people can actually have the items they spent REAL money looted off their corpse. Are you really ready to drop your hard-earned cash on pixels that I can steal from you in the game? If you ARE, then it seems like you can afford a subscription too. Get it?

Lineage 2 seems to manage this.  Get it?

So did runes of magic with gear locks. Get it? Also they could make anything they have in the store a non loot item.  Only the items you get in game can be taken from other players. 

It could work just fine but what could they even put in a shop that would make them money is the question. The game has a sub and that's fine but to say that it can't be F2P is just dumb. 

 

  ironhelix

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Joined: 5/13/08
Posts: 465

4/25/13 6:16:59 PM#29
Originally posted by bestever
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by Herbie3000
Would so play this game if it didn't require a sub :(

If you can't afford the sub to a game like this, then it probably isn't for you anyway. This is full loot with consequences, F2P doesn't work here. Use your brain for a second.

Full loot is so hardcore because it makes players pick one of dozens of suits of armor from their bank each time they die.  Actually, that sounds about as hardcore as the gold cost to repair equipment in WoW.

That's not the point. The point is that monetizing a full loot game means people can actually have the items they spent REAL money looted off their corpse. Are you really ready to drop your hard-earned cash on pixels that I can steal from you in the game? If you ARE, then it seems like you can afford a subscription too. Get it?

Lineage 2 seems to manage this.  Get it?

So did runes of magic with gear locks. Get it? Also they could make anything they have in the store a non loot item.  Only the items you get in game can be taken from other players. 

It could work just fine but what could they even put in a shop that would make them money is the question. The game has a sub and that's fine but to say that it can't be F2P is just dumb. 

 

So your answer is that they actually change the loot mechanics so that cash shop items can't be looted? It kind of ceases to become full-loot at that point, and turns into every other shitty F2P crap-fest that already plagues the MMO world, doesn't it? Why don't you go play one of those other games, instead of trying to change THIS game into something it was never meant to be?

For fuck's sake man, I don't even know why I am trying to talk sense to you retards...

  Panther2103

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Joined: 1/09/08
Posts: 2033

4/25/13 7:57:38 PM#30
My question is, once you sub how would you cancel if you no longer had the money is there some sort of subscription management tab on steam that I'm missing? I am planning on buying DF:UW tonight but I just dont want to do it over steam if theres no option to cancel if I don't decide to keep it going. Also does this version come with a free month or is it 55 off the bat, because it says nothing about a free month.
  corpusc

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4/25/13 8:09:14 PM#31
Originally posted by ironhelix
Originally posted by Herbie3000
Would so play this game if it didn't require a sub :(

If you can't afford the sub to a game like this, then it probably isn't for you anyway. This is full loot with consequences, F2P doesn't work here. Use your brain for a second.

 

except.... Mortal Online with the same full loot, blah blah IS free to play.  regardless what you think of their game, it seems to be working just fine for them.

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i don't expect to like Darkfall, altho i may like it MORE than other MMOs. i know it is gonna have a very frustrating level of grind to it, even if its significantly less than most. waiting for a pure FAST action virtual world. dice rolling & character levels (even "skills") IN COMBAT should have never carried over from pencil & paper to a computer that can reasonably model 3D spaces and objects

  corpusc

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CHATTANOOGAN

contact me if you are seriously interested in
* C#
* making an old schoolish FPS

4/25/13 8:14:36 PM#32
Originally posted by Panther2103
My question is, once you sub how would you cancel if you no longer had the money is there some sort of subscription management tab on steam that I'm missing? I am planning on buying DF:UW tonight but I just dont want to do it over steam if theres no option to cancel if I don't decide to keep it going. Also does this version come with a free month or is it 55 off the bat, because it says nothing about a free month.

 

no, $40.  you get a free month.  then $15 more dollars 30 days from now if you don't cancel

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i don't expect to like Darkfall, altho i may like it MORE than other MMOs. i know it is gonna have a very frustrating level of grind to it, even if its significantly less than most. waiting for a pure FAST action virtual world. dice rolling & character levels (even "skills") IN COMBAT should have never carried over from pencil & paper to a computer that can reasonably model 3D spaces and objects

  Panther2103

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Joined: 1/09/08
Posts: 2033

4/25/13 8:18:18 PM#33
Originally posted by corpusc
Originally posted by Panther2103
My question is, once you sub how would you cancel if you no longer had the money is there some sort of subscription management tab on steam that I'm missing? I am planning on buying DF:UW tonight but I just dont want to do it over steam if theres no option to cancel if I don't decide to keep it going. Also does this version come with a free month or is it 55 off the bat, because it says nothing about a free month.

 

no, $40.  you get a free month.  then $15 more dollars 30 days from now if you don't cancel

Okay that's good, thanks for the info.

  User Deleted
4/25/13 8:32:44 PM#34
Originally posted by ironhelix

For fuck's sake man, I don't even know why I am trying to talk sense to you retards...

Its ok man, just breathe in, and breathe out. Its impossible to get a point across to these people, it went right over their heads.

  Darkcrystal

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Posts: 749

4/25/13 10:45:07 PM#35
14.99 is a standard price for a sub for MMo's now for years, so when people say thats expensive, boggles my mind..
  LongLivePvP

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Joined: 1/27/13
Posts: 104

4/26/13 12:49:08 AM#36
I had to quit playing the game *sigh...this game requires so much grind to be viable for endgame pvp. I will wait for ArcheAge

Playing: Darkfall Unholy Wars & ArcheAge(Alpha)
Backed: Shards Online, Camelot Unchained
Loved: Vanilla WoW,UO,Shadowbane,EQ,DAoC,Asheron's Call(Darktide)

  Riss1234

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Posts: 11

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4/26/13 1:00:03 AM#37
I am not aware that this game can be played on steam now. Anyway It's nice to see it on steam, I have account there and will probably try it once I am not busy :)
  Panzerbase

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4/26/13 1:07:18 AM#38
FULL STEAM AHEAD.
  BelegStrongbow

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Posts: 282

4/26/13 9:03:27 AM#39
i feel this is super news worthy and should be blasted all over the internet.  But so many darkfall haters
  EricDanie

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4/26/13 9:14:57 AM#40
People keep talking about how a sub game could be F2P and then complain when the competitive people spend way more than $15 a month.
 
I still prefer how a subscription keeps the questions simple enough: "is the game worth it? am I going to spend enough time to be worth it?"
 
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