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  LordSneerg

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Joined: 3/21/13
Posts: 121

4/24/13 7:50:45 PM#21
Agree with the  trolling video leak. I am not worried about the game right now because it is in early beta. Few people are in ATM. Just like every other mmo that I was interested in I will make my own choice. As for Betas... They are not being used like they should. You have people that want sneek peeks, don't care about the game, or people that don't report their bugs and hope things get fixed.  I just think it is hard to get people to truly work out bugs of a game if you are not going to pay. At this point I think mmos should use beats for stress test and not for bug hunting. 
  muffins89

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Joined: 10/15/12
Posts: 1255

4/24/13 7:54:20 PM#22
i don't belive the game will change too much from the leaked video.  but,  i like what i saw.  not all mmo's are for everyone.  if you didn't like what you saw then this probably isnt the game for you.

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

4/24/13 8:09:20 PM#23
As a closed beta tester and a former game dev (but not of mmos)

What will change.
Sound
Music
Post processing .fx effects

.what will probably change
Animations
Itemisation
Class balance
Leveling / advancement rate

What might change
Models
World layout
Pvp rules
Instance design

What won't change
Lore
Overall structure / design of the game
Combat system
  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1954

4/24/13 8:29:23 PM#24
Originally posted by codifier
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by orbitxo

iam  a Big Skyrim fan.

 

saw the leaked video to this mmo= not impressed.

ill wait for offical release-  but prob wont be playing it.
  

Thats what beta is all about. Seen many MMO in beta be a totally play different by release. But I have also found game play footage not to be very telling on how fun a game is to play. 

Tell me an MMO which was "totally different" from it's beta state. MMO releases ends up being pretty much same as betas. You could say that if it was an Alpha.

Even in the Rift beta, with a very responsive dev team, the game did not change much in any meaningful way from closed beta to open beta to release other than the typical tweaks and nerfs, but the overall mechanics were untouched despite feedback.

  keithian

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Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 3029

4/25/13 1:25:34 AM#25
Originally posted by orbitxo

iam  a Big Skyrim fan.

 

saw the leaked video to this mmo= not impressed.

ill wait for offical release-  but prob wont be playing it.
 
 
 
 
 

DUH did you even read the article? Your post is an example of what the article is about.

 
 

There Is Always Hope!

  Lorimar

Novice Member

Joined: 3/12/13
Posts: 9

4/25/13 3:27:03 AM#26

While I agree with almost everything you said Bill I have to differ on one point: It's not as they're in early development - they're heading for a 2013 release. They've been already showing the game (or at least the most polished parts of it) at PAX to public which leads me to 2 conclusions: a) they are afraid to show more of it to a larger audience because of the backlashes when showing the first screenshots or b) they're heading for a Age of Conanish release with a superb Tortage and some other not quite so shiny content.

 

tl;dr Keeping an unfinished game safe from an expected shitstorm is totally fine - still instant deleting all gameplay footage of a public demo makes me wonder

  Lanfea

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Joined: 10/19/04
Posts: 218

4/25/13 5:25:40 AM#27

well, we are maybe 3 to 5 months before zenimax internal release date so any real change of design or content isn't to expected so lets predict the future of TESO based on the information we have .... (and please don't take me too serious)

 

may 2013 - the alpha testers are aware of the lack of content and gamefeatures that could provide a longevity for the game

june 2013 - first close beta events will take place, mainly to test the servers

july 2013 - major beta test takes place to test the pvp mechanics and - oh wonder - the engine can't stand more than 50 people fighting in one place

september 2013 - trion announce the release date for archeage to be in december. zenimax has to go live with TESO before or go back to development for another 6 months. some suits and financial analysts choose to release TESO in november

november 2013 - release of TESO. 500.000 copies are sold.

january 2014 - one third of the buyers didn't subscribe for an additional month mainly because they are through with the story, on max level and don't have interest in meaningless buggy pvp

march 2014 - the casual gamers (those who are playing slow and don't spend more than 10 hrs a week in a game) are done with the content too and are moving to another game

june 2014 - the subscription number is down to 100.000

july 2014 - zenimax announce TESO to go freemium in the next months

november 2014 - TESO goes freemium and can triple the subcriptions within the first month

january 2015 - TESO is back to 100.000 subscriptions and a monthly 2,5$ revenue per active playing user with the additional cashshop

  MarzAttakz

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Joined: 4/16/13
Posts: 17

4/25/13 6:22:59 AM#28
Not getting my hopes up in the least. Learnt from my previous mistakes. Not a Skyrim fanboi either, clunky combat, ludicrous character animations, "freedom" to level stats you use, retarded stealth mechanic, m'yeah, maybe TESO will be good, maybe it'll be bad but I'm not pinning my hopes on it being genre changing in the least.
  Vonatar

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Joined: 7/18/10
Posts: 598

4/25/13 6:48:42 AM#29
Originally posted by Lanfea

well, we are maybe 3 to 5 months before zenimax internal release date so any real change of design or content isn't to expected so lets predict the future of TESO based on the information we have .... (and please don't take me too serious)

 

may 2013 - the alpha testers are aware of the lack of content and gamefeatures that could provide a longevity for the game

june 2013 - first close beta events will take place, mainly to test the servers

july 2013 - major beta test takes place to test the pvp mechanics and - oh wonder - the engine can't stand more than 50 people fighting in one place

september 2013 - trion announce the release date for archeage to be in december. zenimax has to go live with TESO before or go back to development for another 6 months. some suits and financial analysts choose to release TESO in november

november 2013 - release of TESO. 500.000 copies are sold.

january 2014 - one third of the buyers didn't subscribe for an additional month mainly because they are through with the story, on max level and don't have interest in meaningless buggy pvp

march 2014 - the casual gamers (those who are playing slow and don't spend more than 10 hrs a week in a game) are done with the content too and are moving to another game

june 2014 - the subscription number is down to 100.000

july 2014 - zenimax announce TESO to go freemium in the next months

november 2014 - TESO goes freemium and can triple the subcriptions within the first month

january 2015 - TESO is back to 100.000 subscriptions and a monthly 2,5$ revenue per active playing user with the additional cashshop

The life cycle of any MMO release these days. I don't expect TESO to be any different. A shame the developers just don't get it.

  someforumguy

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Joined: 1/25/07
Posts: 3512

4/25/13 8:58:18 AM#30

So sad, another ip wasted on the generic themepark MMO mold. Well, for anyone who is interested in this game, I hope for your sake that you don't get too disappointed.

Why did they have to get rid of the typical gritty look? Elder scroll series wasn't jolly colourful enough for the masses?

  SpottyGekko

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Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 3065

4/25/13 12:48:54 PM#31

Watched the leaked footage and saw a very little that was new or different in the MMORPG game world, which means the game will be easy to pick up and play.

However, it will probably also be fairly easy to put down and walk away from when something new and shiny comes along.

 

I've had a decent break from medieval fantasy MMO's now. SWTOR, TSW, Planetside 2 and Defiance have given me a much needed scifi fix (skipped Tera and GW2), so by the time TESO rolls around, I'll be ready for some kill-ten-rats again... :D

 
  shalissar

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Joined: 3/04/10
Posts: 189

4/25/13 1:39:11 PM#32
Mmm, yeah the article has a point. I'll save the henny penny until I see some footage of an ava battle going awry with the game engine sputtering three ways from Tuesday. Some kid turning everything down so he can run it on his compaq presario and then going through the motions at the start of the game does little to convince me of anything good OR bad.
 
  Sulherok

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Joined: 12/04/10
Posts: 16

4/25/13 2:39:20 PM#33
You guys do know that guy who posted that leak purposely set out to make the game look bad right?... How can i tell well one he stuck his name out there so everyone knew who he was and he knew he would be kicked outta beta after he posted that and by all the remarks i read he succeeded.
  MysteryB

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Joined: 9/25/08
Posts: 260

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4/25/13 4:35:53 PM#34
You know people always say "don't trust a beta the game will change a lot" but in 90% of all closed betas aside from some bug fixes nothing changes. Ive done a ton of closed betas and they are pretty much what u can expect at launch for low levels at least

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  Jakers7

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Joined: 4/26/13
Posts: 3

4/26/13 5:40:47 AM#35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZQXuwt4fP0
This video is of a DEV giving a tutorial for ESO taken offscreen by a fan at PAX East 2013. I figured this should get more than 450 hits after that terrible “beta” video that recently came out. Watch this and then tell me that this game is gunna suck and isn’t beautiful. Watch before they take it off. Looks great on 1080P. After this video my hopes are restored and I'm super pumped for this game.

 

  superconducting

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Joined: 4/21/13
Posts: 736

4/27/13 11:29:53 PM#36

Zenimax, if you've learned anything from the leak video, I hope it's this:

Take as much time as you need to get the game right, but please just GET IT RIGHT by release. If you haven't guessed by now, 99% of us do in fact want Skyrim/ Obvilion / Morrowind online! That's probably the most frequent comment you'll encounter.

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