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  Paladrink

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Joined: 2/16/06
Posts: 46

What we do in life, echoes in eternity.

4/24/13 1:43:23 PM#41
Darkfail again? sorry i still pass, even seeing the reactions of the people towards Arbacus make me think of a whole kid hole again. Even if the game has became a bit better now its going to be less than #"$"$# in 2 months.

What we do in life, echoes in eternity.

  Uzik

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Joined: 2/12/04
Posts: 275

4/24/13 1:50:33 PM#42
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by Uzik
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by tomwodi
@Arbacus
pay2win? Lol dude...

So you are mad with the game couze someone can buy 2 acounts? ROFL

Say that the game is "just grind" and "p2w" is just lie... You dont know the mean of the word... Try hard dude.

how is buying 2 accounts not pay to win you are paying for an advantage in darkfall having more than 1 account substansially increases your recource acquisition allowing for faster progression more fodder gear basicaly puts you in a whole different league from someone ho only bought 1 account

 

just because im sharing my experience and it is a negative one does not mean im some kind of angry troll it means i just did not like the game and would share why so that maybe it could do some good saving someone who shares my views some money or maybe help future developers learn from mistakes

 

grinding isnt a problem i have played 100s of real life days in grinding games i even dont mind the gathering in the game but the feat system in this game is silly its clunky in how it clashes with group play knowing the levelign path for the feat system that is most efficient is the difference between 55k in 2 days and  4 weeks regardless of player ability what kind of launch is that? 2 days into a launch and players who knew the game had this much advantage over those who are new? i have played a lot of mmos and this is ludicrous i have been outleveld before but never this horribly this fast simply bad design not just bad its horrible. 

 

Are you playing with a clan?

Did you play DF1 extensively?

Did you play the DFUW beta extensively?

How many hours a day have you been playing?

Have you ever tried using a harvesting alt?

 

Serious questions, please answer

i was playing in a clan

 

i did not play df1 at all

 

i played december beta until archeage beta which started jan 2

 

 10-15 hours a day

 

no i havnt i harvested myself

 

I call complete BS on your "review" then.

 

Why?

1)  If you play with people you can easily make more than 500 prowess an hour

2) If you yourself haven't spent time harvesting then you have no idea how inefficient safezone harvesting is, and how likely you are to be attacked when farming outside of safezones.

3) You have no concept of how much planning certain guilds put into DFUW release.  Of course they are going to have a huge advantage.

4) You say you have 15k prowess, yet you are constantly getting jumped by people with more prowess.  15k prowess is above average right now.  Some guilds have people leveled way up, but they are all off farming the highest tier monsters and you would not be running into them.

5) Your general level of complaining makes it apparent that you are not used to open-PvP, full-loot games.  You do not belong in Darkfall.  Sorry.

6) I would wager someone with half the prowess you have could easily kill you.  In fact, I would be more than happy to do that on my harvesting alt.  Prowess means a lot less than gear level, and currently the best way to get resources for gear is PvE and salvaging, not harvesting.

 

Darkfall is NOT for everyone.  You will find people with better stuff than you, better character than you, better playing ability than you, better group coordination than you, etc.

You have to learn to deal with.  Either get better, accept your place in life, or leave the game.

(Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
http://www.youtube.com/user/UzikAlJhamin

  PsyMike3d

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/01/11
Posts: 394

Sorry for my English xD

4/24/13 1:55:29 PM#43
I unsubbed today... 15euros per month for crashes,lags, ping? no thanks
  arbacus

Novice Member

Joined: 8/11/11
Posts: 38

4/24/13 2:00:00 PM#44
Originally posted by Uzik
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by Uzik
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by tomwodi
@Arbacus
pay2win? Lol dude...

So you are mad with the game couze someone can buy 2 acounts? ROFL

Say that the game is "just grind" and "p2w" is just lie... You dont know the mean of the word... Try hard dude.

how is buying 2 accounts not pay to win you are paying for an advantage in darkfall having more than 1 account substansially increases your recource acquisition allowing for faster progression more fodder gear basicaly puts you in a whole different league from someone ho only bought 1 account

 

just because im sharing my experience and it is a negative one does not mean im some kind of angry troll it means i just did not like the game and would share why so that maybe it could do some good saving someone who shares my views some money or maybe help future developers learn from mistakes

 

grinding isnt a problem i have played 100s of real life days in grinding games i even dont mind the gathering in the game but the feat system in this game is silly its clunky in how it clashes with group play knowing the levelign path for the feat system that is most efficient is the difference between 55k in 2 days and  4 weeks regardless of player ability what kind of launch is that? 2 days into a launch and players who knew the game had this much advantage over those who are new? i have played a lot of mmos and this is ludicrous i have been outleveld before but never this horribly this fast simply bad design not just bad its horrible. 

 

Are you playing with a clan?

Did you play DF1 extensively?

Did you play the DFUW beta extensively?

How many hours a day have you been playing?

Have you ever tried using a harvesting alt?

 

Serious questions, please answer

i was playing in a clan

 

i did not play df1 at all

 

i played december beta until archeage beta which started jan 2

 

 10-15 hours a day

 

no i havnt i harvested myself

 

I call complete BS on your "review" then.

 

Why?

1)  If you play with people you can easily make more than 500 prowess an hour

2) If you yourself haven't spent time harvesting then you have no idea how inefficient safezone harvesting is, and how likely you are to be attacked when farming outside of safezones.

3) You have no concept of how much planning certain guilds put into DFUW release.  Of course they are going to have a huge advantage.

4) You say you have 15k prowess, yet you are constantly getting jumped by people with more prowess.  15k prowess is above average right now.  Some guilds have people leveled way up, but they are all off farming the highest tier monsters and you would not be running into them.

5) Your general level of complaining makes it apparent that you are not used to open-PvP, full-loot games.  You do not belong in Darkfall.  Sorry.

6) I would wager someone with half the prowess you have could easily kill you.  In fact, I would be more than happy to do that on my harvesting alt.  Prowess means a lot less than gear level, and currently the best way to get resources for gear is PvE and salvaging, not harvesting.

 

Darkfall is NOT for everyone.  You will find people with better stuff than you, better character than you, better playing ability than you, better group coordination than you, etc.

You have to learn to deal with.  Either get better, accept your place in life, or leave the game.

nice reading comprehension.... read what you want to see just scip over key words that change the entire meaning of what i said i didnt salvage i put all that in my guild bank maybe i missed something there

i did lots of harvesting i did all the harvesting for myself i spent half my game time harvesting lol

i did play with people they didtn seem to have any better idea than i could by reading public forums of what to do why should it even matter this is supposed to be a sand box game not a linear game there should nto be a supreme best all powerful leveling path how stupid is that in a "sandbox" whichi s why i did not put the time into beta to learn soemthing i did not think existed

i had 16-17k prowesse i dont know i cant even check i uninstalled yesterday

i didnt run into anyone that attacked me and was higher prowesse than me actually i dont recall saying i did i just got reports form guildmates that they existed

 

ive spent more time in open world pvp games than any other type of game so i am very used to them as far as full loot im new to the concept but i dont recall that being a complaint in my post you just brought tha tout of nowhere iv eplayed partial loot games but only limited time spent in full loot games

 

kill me easily? no i got away every single fight but 1 that i fled from in that my computer did not crash at some poitn durring the battle

tho im new to the bad engine clunky darkfall combat i was not helpless i killed 66 percent of single player attacks on me when i was solo and the other fights i got away(not counting the 4 crash deaths)

4/5 of my deaths were from crashes what kind of impression do you think that leaves on a player full loot or not

  Uzik

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/12/04
Posts: 275

4/24/13 2:00:44 PM#45
Originally posted by Paladrink
Darkfail again? sorry i still pass, even seeing the reactions of the people towards Arbacus make me think of a whole kid hole again. Even if the game has became a bit better now its going to be less than #"$"$# in 2 months.

The Darkfall community has a very low tolerance for idiots and cry babies, but overall the level of maturity FAR exceeds other games.  Why?

 

1) Ragey kids can't handle losing gear

2) 1 character per server means you are accountable for things you say/do

3) Politics actually matter

4) Your reputation as a player can have a positive/negative influence on your clan's relations with other clans

5) Coordination and discipline can easily beat pure FPS/twitch skills

6) Conquest and city control requires a lot of planning and organization.

 

If you come into DFUW can start complaining about:

1) Graphics

2) Getting ganked

3) Other players being mean

You will get ridiculed. 

 

However, if you come in with a positive, willing to learn attitude, take time to read up on the game before playing, and ask the community for help, you will see that Darkfall players are FAR more willing to go the extra mile to teach you how to play than ANY OTHER mmo out there.

 

That being said, you sound like a whiny baby, so you may want to steer clear.

(Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
http://www.youtube.com/user/UzikAlJhamin

  Greymoor

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 12/30/10
Posts: 812

4/24/13 2:03:29 PM#46
Originally posted by MMO_Fan

@Badaboom, Greymoor and Uzik:

As the most vocal fans of this game - how many accounts do you own or have access to in game?

Do you think having multiple accounts make the game more fun and makes it worth it?

One account.

  Greymoor

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 12/30/10
Posts: 812

4/24/13 2:07:10 PM#47
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
I unsubbed today... 15euros per month for crashes,lags, ping? no thanks

How is your performance after todays patch?

  PsyMike3d

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/01/11
Posts: 394

Sorry for my English xD

4/24/13 2:19:12 PM#48
Originally posted by Greymoor
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
I unsubbed today... 15euros per month for crashes,lags, ping? no thanks

How is your performance after todays patch?

Today i had 6 client crashes, i lost 4mounts because of it. My ping was about 100-110ms and my FPS ~30.  This is the only game i get so low FPS even at low settings.

 
  arbacus

Novice Member

Joined: 8/11/11
Posts: 38

4/24/13 2:23:29 PM#49
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
Originally posted by Greymoor
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
I unsubbed today... 15euros per month for crashes,lags, ping? no thanks

How is your performance after todays patch?

Today i had 6 client crashes, i lost 4mounts because of iy. My ping was about 100-110ms and my FPS ~30.  This is the only game i get so low FPS even at low settings.

that sux i was getting 100 fps(imposed cap via msi afterburner  after first few days or so before was stuttering at 0-250fps in crowded town) in every type of gameplay and setting but i still crashed atleast once a day often in a party or in pvp my temps were all perfect no higher than 50 degrees celcius my ping jumpe daroujnd spordically form 49 low to 120 ms tho which was strange

  Uzik

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/12/04
Posts: 275

4/24/13 2:28:46 PM#50
Originally posted by Greymoor
Originally posted by MMO_Fan

@Badaboom, Greymoor and Uzik:

As the most vocal fans of this game - how many accounts do you own or have access to in game?

Do you think having multiple accounts make the game more fun and makes it worth it?

One account.

I have 2 accounts.  One for PvP/PvE and one for guild crafting.

Anyone who thinks that a 2nd account is some sort of huge advantage is mistaken.  The only places you can semi-AFK harvest safely are safezones where there are very few available resources.  Semi-AFK harvesting outside of the safezones (where all the untapped resources are) will most likely end with your alt donating resources to someone else.

So the resource gain is pretty negligible.  Most of the time my crafting alt just sits in an NPC city making random things for my clan.

 

Also, there are currently TONS of crafters in global chat looking for people to give them materials and for them to craft it for you.  A lot are even offering discounts so they can level up their skills.

 

(Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
http://www.youtube.com/user/UzikAlJhamin

  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2356

4/24/13 2:29:11 PM#51
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
Originally posted by Greymoor
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
I unsubbed today... 15euros per month for crashes,lags, ping? no thanks

How is your performance after todays patch?

Today i had 6 client crashes, i lost 4mounts because of iy. My ping was about 100-110ms and my FPS ~30.  This is the only game i get so low FPS even at low settings.

that sux i was getting 100 fps(imposed cap via msi afterburner  after first few days or so before was stuttering at 0-250fps in crowded town) in every type of gameplay and setting but i still crashed atleast once a day often in a party or in pvp my temps were all perfect no higher than 50 degrees celcius my ping jumpe daroujnd spordically form 49 low to 120 ms tho which was strange

That sucks.  I have only crashed once and that was right after launch.  My computer is old but it is intel and nvidea.  What is your hardware (Psy & Arb)?

  arbacus

Novice Member

Joined: 8/11/11
Posts: 38

4/24/13 2:36:29 PM#52
Originally posted by Uzik
Originally posted by Greymoor
Originally posted by MMO_Fan

@Badaboom, Greymoor and Uzik:

As the most vocal fans of this game - how many accounts do you own or have access to in game?

Do you think having multiple accounts make the game more fun and makes it worth it?

One account.

I have 2 accounts.  One for PvP/PvE and one for guild crafting.

Anyone who thinks that a 2nd account is some sort of huge advantage is mistaken.  The only places you can semi-AFK harvest are safezones where there are very few available resources, and semi-AFK harvesting outside of the safezones will most likely end with your alt donating resources to someone else.

So the resource gain is pretty negligible.  Most of the time my crafting alt just sits in an NPC city making random things for my clan.

 

Also, there are currently TONS of crafters in global chat looking for people to give them materials and for them to craft it for you.  A lot are even offering discounts so they can level up their skills.

 

i was out of the safe zone and never to return except for buying 2 new skills and some reagents once after first 2 days i had no problem semi afk gathering without anyone attacking me it was at monster nodes i woudl get attacked and witnessed many others doing hte same maybe you played in a more crowded part of the map? spent more time in safe zones? i explored 1/3 the entire map and ic an tell you almost every player city had its semi afk gatheres nearby

  MegaD61

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4/24/13 2:53:40 PM#53
Originally posted by hardicon

a hardcore pvp sandbox with safe zones.  is that a joke.  also what are the hardcore pvpers doing hanging out in safe zones to gather crafting materials since they are so hardcore pvp.  sounds to me like people dont truly want pvp at all times, just when it is convenient.  come on adventurine remove the safe zones,

 

good article though, fair review I think listing the good with the bad but that part above just kind of stuck out to me.  (no I dont play darkfall and not bashing the game, hope it succeeds and all that, but hardcore pvp game doesnt need safe zones imo)

Dude, I would agree except for the fact that safezones would be a giants 24/7 bloodbath if there were not safe zones.  The safe areas are only around the starting NPC cities.  There are no good monster spanws in them and the resorces are VERY limited with the kind of populatation we got in game.  There is SOOOO much open world PvP going on EVERYWHERE right now.  Me and a group of 3 clannies spent 3 hrs last night just looking for a spawn we could farm in relative peace.

 
  fantasyfreak112

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4/24/13 3:25:02 PM#54
Theres no point of these prereviews if you are going to blindfold yourselves to the obvious shortcomings that any gamer could uncover in 30minutes. Such as, the monumental issue of releasing the half finished game that is Darkfall.
  Uzik

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4/24/13 3:37:09 PM#55
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by Uzik
Originally posted by Greymoor
Originally posted by MMO_Fan

@Badaboom, Greymoor and Uzik:

As the most vocal fans of this game - how many accounts do you own or have access to in game?

Do you think having multiple accounts make the game more fun and makes it worth it?

One account.

I have 2 accounts.  One for PvP/PvE and one for guild crafting.

Anyone who thinks that a 2nd account is some sort of huge advantage is mistaken.  The only places you can semi-AFK harvest are safezones where there are very few available resources, and semi-AFK harvesting outside of the safezones will most likely end with your alt donating resources to someone else.

So the resource gain is pretty negligible.  Most of the time my crafting alt just sits in an NPC city making random things for my clan.

 

Also, there are currently TONS of crafters in global chat looking for people to give them materials and for them to craft it for you.  A lot are even offering discounts so they can level up their skills.

 

i was out of the safe zone and never to return except for buying 2 new skills and some reagents once after first 2 days i had no problem semi afk gathering without anyone attacking me it was at monster nodes i woudl get attacked and witnessed many others doing hte same maybe you played in a more crowded part of the map? spent more time in safe zones? i explored 1/3 the entire map and ic an tell you almost every player city had its semi afk gatheres nearby

 

But you didn't stop to kill the semi afk harversters and take their resources?

 

Again, I do not believe a word you say, and no one else should either.

(Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
http://www.youtube.com/user/UzikAlJhamin

  cyclonite51

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4/24/13 3:44:29 PM#56
Darkfall: Unholy Wars is a very minor upgrade to DF1. It is still the same open world PVP game with very little else to do besides grind. Melee combat is still terrible, they could have done so much better if they looked at other games like Mount and Blade or Chivlary. The community is the biggest collection of degenerates you will find in any game.
  Greymoor

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4/24/13 3:49:30 PM#57
Originally posted by cyclonite51
Darkfall: Unholy Wars is a very minor upgrade to DF1. It is still the same open world PVP game with very little else to do besides grind. Melee combat is still terrible, they could have done so much better if they looked at other games like Mount and Blade or Chivlary. The community is the biggest collection of degenerates you will find in any game.

I just don't even get comments like this, how is DFUW closely similar to the original other than the full loot FPS PvP with conquest?

The engine has had major upgrades

The world is new

There are classes

You advance your character completely differently

The GUI is new

All the abilities are new

Combat is slower and has many different mechanics in place

The graphics are upped compared to DF1.0

The game is far more friendly to new players, safezones, lengthy tutorial, easier to manage GUI

Just about every mechanic is completely different in DFUW.

 

As for the community, any global chat is full of degenerates you just have to find a good clan to play with! There are many great communities in the game.

  Serignuad

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4/24/13 4:02:50 PM#58

The Global Chat on any PvP-centric game are all equally bad.

Darkfall's is no worse than any of them. I found Asheron's Call Darktide to be very similar to Darkfall's Global Chat. 

  cyclonite51

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4/24/13 4:34:53 PM#59
It has improved over DF1 definitely but not enough. For an indie developer with limited funds and resources it is pretty darn good.
  Realbigdeal

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4/24/13 4:48:27 PM#60
DF UW best mmorpg

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