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  Dicehunter

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Joined: 11/21/08
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OP  4/22/13 10:50:32 PM#1

Love the look of EVE but also heard its very unfriendly when it comes to new players i.e you die a lot.

Is there a specific job/proff/side I should choose where I know I'm safe and wont get dicked around with ?

Again only going on what I've heard.

Any info is appreciated :)

  Grunty

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Joined: 4/06/04
Posts: 6749

4/22/13 10:53:59 PM#2
Do the starter missions. Learn the various roles. Get your first ships. Figure out what role you want to play. If you don't like PVP avoid .4 systems and lower.  Stay out of Jita. Or make Jita your home.
  Hrimnir

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 1074

4/22/13 10:54:04 PM#3

If you want to be safe you're playing the wrong game.

Even tooling around in highsec you're not really safe.

My advice if you're wanting to get in the game for the long haul is to buy a PLEX, sell it, and buy the best implants you can get for stat boosts.  Then start researching all the stat boosting skills (cant rem what they're called).  There are basic and advanced ones.  Get the basics up to skill 5, and the advanced up to 2 or 3.  This will take a couple of months of training, but its going to save you years on the back end.

"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

  Daggerjaydo

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Joined: 12/16/07
Posts: 120

4/22/13 10:56:38 PM#4

Find yourself a group of people to play with, it makes things a lot more fun, and they can mentor you.

 

Other than that, there is no right way to start Eve, unfortunately. It's all about finding something you like doing and going for it.

 

The only thing I will say is DON'T GO TO 0.5 OR LOWER SYSTEMS. You might get a mission that says to go to one, just abandon it until you're ready, which will be some time in the future. A lot of new players make the mistake of jumping in to one, even if they know it's dangerous. Ship losses hurt a newbie a lot more than a vet; it's much harder for you to recover.

Also watch out for scams, read stuff carefully.

 

 

  Druft

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Joined: 5/03/09
Posts: 24

4/22/13 10:57:27 PM#5
Originally posted by Hrimnir

If you want to be safe you're playing the wrong game.

Even tooling around in highsec you're not really safe.

My advice if you're wanting to get in the game for the long haul is to buy a PLEX, sell it, and buy the best implants you can get for stat boosts.  Then start researching all the stat boosting skills (cant rem what they're called).  There are basic and advanced ones.  Get the basics up to skill 5, and the advanced up to 2 or 3.  This will take a couple of months of training, but its going to save you years on the back end.

You mean the learning skills that got removed in 2010? :P

  Crazy_Stick

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Joined: 7/28/12
Posts: 1072

4/22/13 11:20:04 PM#6

EVE is PVP centric. It’s hard to trust anyone so look out for SCAMS. You will never be 100% safe. Risks are lower in some tasks than in others and the rewards will vary accordingly. Make sure you don’t fly a ship you can’t afford to lose and you will be fine. Do all of the tutorials, get an idea of what is fun for you from them and then settle on a career. EVE is a very detailed game (don’t think of it as hard) with a lot to learn about but it is internally consistent and reasonable.

 

Bookmark the EVE UNI wiki HERE. It is an incredibly valuable resource for a new player and unlike many other web sites they keep it all up to date. You will find basic ship load outs and tons of guides to help you learn the game from tanking damage to dealing it and just flying around. THIS is their tips and tricks page. I differ from them and say use EVE HQ to help plan character development and develop ship load outs you can fly because it is an all in one tool.  THIS is a listing of some basic skills to consider working on early in your career.

 

I also suggest you download THIS pdf guide for additional information.

 

PS: DON'T be afraid of EVE. You are going to win some. You are going to lose some. It's a game. Have fun with it. Explore what it has to offer rather than hiding in the shadows.

  h0urg1ass

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Joined: 11/29/05
Posts: 288

4/23/13 12:04:44 AM#7

The first things to do if are going to start playing EVE are:

1)  Read.  Read a lot about the game first.  Find the career guide that CCP puts out to see what kinds of "careers" there are in the game, and then pick whatever interests you.  More than any other MMO in existence, and I mean this, EVE is a game where knowledge is power.  What you don't know WILL kill you.  Make it your job to know what you can about the game, especially if it effects your "career" path.

2)  Go watch some videos on youtube that deal with the career that you've chosen.  Mining may sound awesome when you're reading about it, but it's also extremely slow paced and many find it boring for that reason.  Others find they have time to watch movies and do homework while mining and it suits them perfectly well.  Either way, watching a few videos about your chosen career will give you an idea of what you'll be doing.

3)  Hyper focus.  Find one thing that you want to do and hyper focus on it for a while until you're good at it.  Remmeber that with almost nine years of training there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people that can already do whatever job you pick much better than you.  In order to be good at something, you'll have to focus on it for a while.  I would especially take this to heart when picking which race to use.  If you try to do too many things at once as a new EVE pilot, then you'll just be shitty at a bunch of things instead of good at one or two things.

4)  If it sounds too good to be true, then it is.  This applies to every aspect of EVE from PVP to simply buying something on contracts.

5)  Lastly, and most importantly are the double rules of EVE:  Never fly anything that you can't afford to lose.  Never fly anything that you can't fit properly.  If you can't afford to lose it, then fly something cheaper until you can.  If you have empty module slots on your ship, ESPECIALLY mids and lows, then you're doing it wrong.  No slot should ever be empty (that's not what she said) unless you are a two week old character in your first frigate running lvl 1 missions.

6)  Lastly for real this time;  Join a corporation very quickly.  Especially try to find one of the many noob friendly corporations like EVE University which specializes in training new players.

  tarodin

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/15/08
Posts: 79

4/23/13 1:00:50 AM#8

I started playing eve at february 2013.

My ship was destroyed once with no reason by a player. I didnt have any other pvp conflict... i'm living in high sec systems (1.0 to 0.5).

Don't be affraid, most people in eve wants to help and you will find friends that will support you and answer your doubts.

Chose your career and focus on it.

And ofc read a lot, ask a lot, this is a hard game but not impossible... every day you will learn something new and this is good.

Safe travels!

  BeansnBread

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 5540

4/23/13 1:06:19 AM#9
Start asking people for help right off the bat. Once someone bites, they'll usually ask you to go somewhere with them. Once you get there, they will teach you how to play the game.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Robokapp

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Joined: 11/15/09
Posts: 4522

The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

4/23/13 1:18:53 AM#10

as a player since 2009 my advice is this:

 

try different things, regardless of how much you've trained skills into them. What makes EVE different at first sight is that it's not a "kill mobs there, go do this here, talk to him, bring me his head". the NPCs won't tell you what to do so...what do you do ?

 

it takes a while to figure out which aspect of the game you like best. a few friends who tried all ended up scanning and hacking (hacking here is referring to codebreaking satelite dishes and stuff not the illegal kind). I personally am a miner/industrial pilot primarily.

 

expect to change your mind many times. I was 1 year into the game an still every week i'd want to do something different. Eventually all roads lead to nullsec and pvp sooo don't be in a rush to get there. you will.

 

finally, players in your own corp-alliance are generally extremely friendly. players not in your corp/alliance are generally extremely scammy. so if on offers you some shady deal "aka Hey let's go lowsec to kill some better rats"... yeah, he wants to kill you. :D

 

there's many great alliances/ corps to associate with, including nullsec training corps or highsec pvp corps etc.

 

finally...eve's a lot better if you're not alone. and it's a universe of very basic human emotions. 'not bothering anyone' doesnt guarantee your safety. be aware other players exist around you, and be aware that carrying valuable stuff in paper-thin ships is like walking out of a casino with a brick of dollars in your hand. Someone out there migh take a shot at you. Or maybe nobody will. you never know.

 

being safe was one of your questions. in high-sec you're generally safe. most won't bother with you. might run into an exception here or there. but its uncommon, most have more important things to do. but again, don't expect 100% safety, just like in real life, a crazy person might do a crazy thing anywhere at any time. players have the CAPABILITY to, like in real life. They don't necesarily have the MOTIVE which is why most often you'll be fine.

 

remember... most players (but not all) won't bother you unless you give them a reason or a chance to. Because there's nothing you have that they want except maybe your tears. It's important.

 

@Colddog's comment: have some common sense. If they invite you to a dark back alley...I wouldn't. :). corp/alliance and beginner channel are great tools. local can be 50-50.

 

and if you do go to a 0.5 or lower, remember...everyone who if not blue or green will most likely either try to kill you or run away so you don't kill him. as you go into 0.0, everyone not blue or green MUST try to either kill you or run away. you're in his territory and you're a threat. even if you're not a threat. :)

  sketocafe

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Joined: 7/19/11
Posts: 539

4/23/13 2:08:41 AM#11
Originally posted by Dicehunter

Love the look of EVE but also heard its very unfriendly when it comes to new players i.e you die a lot.

Is there a specific job/proff/side I should choose where I know I'm safe and wont get dicked around with ?

Again only going on what I've heard.

Any info is appreciated :)

Any contract you see linked in a local channel is a scam.

I recommend messing around with a few different races on a trial account and pick one you like. People will say one is so much better than others but they all have good ships for both pve and pvp. 

A good fight is one where the victor limps off in structure. Risk averse stuff designed to put more numbers on your killboard safely isn't actually fun.

Isk is meant to be spent on spaceship explosions in glorious combat.

You will lose your first frigate/dessie/cruiser/bc//bs. Insure them. Do it. 

Playng with bros makes the grindy bits of the game actually fun.

It's generally better to specialize fairly early on. Find a profession you like and stick with it. Training placed there will pay off more quickly in earning potential than spreading yourself out.

You're ready to go into low-sec and null-sec when you want to go there, but you'll need to know how to use your directional scanner as well as f10 map-star map-stars-statistics-ships/pods destroyed in last hour to avoid camped gates.

Be Zen. Your possessions are just illusion. You will lose them all in the long run. Don't worry about their loss, spend them well in pursuit of fun.

Goonswarm doesn't recruit from ingame, though they do an awful lot of recruitment scamming.

Seriously, learn to your your directional scanner and your f10 map statistics to get info so you're not jumping blind.

After you've earned enough isk to fit a cruiser and a frigate for pvp, join the "RvB Ganked" player channel and go on one of the roams. It's always a fun time, get on the mumble for it though, and don't jump the gate when you shouldn't.

I dunno why people are talking about   staying out of .5 or lower.  .5 is still in highsec, and concord will still respond. Any competent ganker who wants you dead will do the math and bring enough ships to kill you with, whether you're in .5 and concord has  a slow response time or in 1.0 with concord in a few seconds. Concord is like actual police, they don't prevent murder, they punish them. 

  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5081

4/23/13 3:12:48 AM#12
Originally posted by colddog04
Start asking people for help right off the bat. Once someone bites, they'll usually ask you to go somewhere with them. Once you get there, they will teach you how to play the game.

 

Or don't, its a tactic used by wannabee pirates to gank newbies.. trust no-one, and find a corp asp, that way you have advice on tap, and quite often they can help out with isk/ships etc. The important thing is to find a good Corp.

  Dalmont

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4/23/13 3:17:13 AM#13

READ EVERYTHING

Oh and don't bot, botter are "insert nasty word here for cheater"

  Hrimnir

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 1074

4/25/13 1:18:53 AM#14
Originally posted by Druft
Originally posted by Hrimnir

If you want to be safe you're playing the wrong game.

Even tooling around in highsec you're not really safe.

My advice if you're wanting to get in the game for the long haul is to buy a PLEX, sell it, and buy the best implants you can get for stat boosts.  Then start researching all the stat boosting skills (cant rem what they're called).  There are basic and advanced ones.  Get the basics up to skill 5, and the advanced up to 2 or 3.  This will take a couple of months of training, but its going to save you years on the back end.

You mean the learning skills that got removed in 2010? :P

Apparently, as you can see its been a while. So what did they do with the SP for people who invested in those?

"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

  WW4BW

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4/25/13 2:13:10 AM#15
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Druft
Originally posted by Hrimnir

If you want to be safe you're playing the wrong game.

Even tooling around in highsec you're not really safe.

My advice if you're wanting to get in the game for the long haul is to buy a PLEX, sell it, and buy the best implants you can get for stat boosts.  Then start researching all the stat boosting skills (cant rem what they're called).  There are basic and advanced ones.  Get the basics up to skill 5, and the advanced up to 2 or 3.  This will take a couple of months of training, but its going to save you years on the back end.

You mean the learning skills that got removed in 2010? :P

Apparently, as you can see its been a while. So what did they do with the SP for people who invested in those?

As I recall it they just removed them, and bumped everyones base stats.

Maybe they let you add the skill points whereever you wanted.. and I just spent them so fast I forgot.....  

  BizkitNL

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4/25/13 2:14:19 AM#16

-Don't be stupid

-Don't be scared

 

 

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  WW4BW

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Joined: 12/03/06
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4/25/13 2:16:26 AM#17
Bah I almost feel like playing again... But I promised myself I was done with EvE.
  zimboy69

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Joined: 3/09/08
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4/25/13 2:23:28 AM#18

 

biggest tip is  if  your starting  out  is   get a invite  from  a current player they can give you a 21 day free trial susbscribe for a month  and  then you have 51 days   for the cost of one month

 

on ships  and skills   choice

i would choose a ship anything up to battleship and train  towards  that getting all  relevent skills needed 

 

rougly in a month you can fly a battleship and in two months  you can  be  quite good  in it   somwhere around the  4-6 week mark  you should be good enough to fly lvl 3/4 missions and make  a bit of isk

 

and i would only concentrate get skills to fly my choosen ship for the first two/three months   and this would be  my fall back ship

 

personaly for me missile and drone ships  where easier to train than gun ships

 

so if i was starting out tomorrow 

not wanting not  to waste skill points   and  have   a  reasonably good ship in a month or so i would  head for a drake 

the only problem with the drake is everyone flys them  so you will be  part of the crowd  but they are cheap, tough and  have reasonably good firepower just a bit slow

normaly in pvp  you see loads of these drakes

they are also  easy to play  plus the skills needed to fly the drake and  use the missle launchers are skills that are needed   

to fly the  frigates and  crusiers  which you need to fly on the way to the drake

 

so a noob player a drake is a good choice  to head for  but like anything its all a matter of what you want to do but thats what i would do

 

 

  hfztt

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 596

4/25/13 2:27:16 AM#19

Dont undock in somthing you cant afford to loose.

Rememeber to have fun.

  h0urg1ass

Novice Member

Joined: 11/29/05
Posts: 288

4/25/13 7:31:15 AM#20
Originally posted by WW4BW
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Druft
Originally posted by Hrimnir

If you want to be safe you're playing the wrong game.

Even tooling around in highsec you're not really safe.

My advice if you're wanting to get in the game for the long haul is to buy a PLEX, sell it, and buy the best implants you can get for stat boosts.  Then start researching all the stat boosting skills (cant rem what they're called).  There are basic and advanced ones.  Get the basics up to skill 5, and the advanced up to 2 or 3.  This will take a couple of months of training, but its going to save you years on the back end.

You mean the learning skills that got removed in 2010? :P

Apparently, as you can see its been a while. So what did they do with the SP for people who invested in those?

As I recall it they just removed them, and bumped everyones base stats.

Maybe they let you add the skill points whereever you wanted.. and I just spent them so fast I forgot.....  

They removed learning skills from the game and refunded the points to every and all players who had trained them.  Those skill points can be placed on any skill you wish.

I had all of them trained to lvl 5 so I had quite a few SP's to place wherever I wanted.

Also, there are now quite a few "must have" skills in the game especially if you PVP such as Armor Honeycombing and the four new sensor skills which boost your ships sensor strength against ECM.  That's where I would put my points if I was to return to the game today.

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