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  muchavez

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4/21/13 3:58:01 PM#41
I'v been watching this one to.  I believe the reason they dont have it here in mmorpg is they said they dont have a site to link it to.  Once the people at black prophecy put up a site they can add it to the list
  ichihaifu

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4/21/13 3:58:43 PM#42

So this thread is basically an endless hype thread fo a game that has yet to go even to beta without NDA.

 

Trailers prove nothing, for all we know it could be even an entirely different build than the game will ever run (like certain incidents in the near past).

I'l give this game time and see what it is when the time comes, but until then: may the hype torment you.

  Axehilt

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4/21/13 4:00:17 PM#43
Originally posted by Shauneepeak

Tera actually seems to be the most popular MMO at my college sure its questing sucks but I'm enjoying it so far and while the combats not perfect it is quite fun.

To be fair, Tera didn't have bad gameplay and I still plan on giving it another try at some point.  It's not at all that Tera's gameplay is lacking, but more the idea that WOW's gameplay feels so polished and meticulously crafted that I keep going back.

  Axehilt

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4/21/13 4:02:41 PM#44
Originally posted by Aerowyn

unlike those games you mentioned if you look this one has TONS of systems from an intricate trading system to housing to seiges.. seems to be a very sandboxy type game somewhat similar to archage.. but again i wouldn't expect this out in NA/EU till maybe end of 2014 if that

Housing and sieges aren't what are going to fill my gameplay sessions though.  If the strongest game features of a game are only engaged 1-5% of the time, that leaves 95% of the time engaging in second-string systems.

The purpose of a game is to entertain.  Empty gameplay doesn't entertain.  If 95% of a game sucks, the game sucks.

  Shauneepeak

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OP  4/21/13 4:04:16 PM#45

Btw kind of odd but did anyone else think of FFXII when watching the first trailer? Not really sure what exactly about the game reminded me of it but it did.

  Hrotha

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4/21/13 4:06:03 PM#46
And as far as I know, this game will not have a gender lock - even as if it might look like it in the first place.

  Nilenya

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4/21/13 4:13:05 PM#47
Originally posted by 4bsolute
And as far as I know, this game will not have a gender lock - even as if it might look like it in the first place.

It wont.

  Homitu

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4/21/13 4:15:12 PM#48
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Axehilt

Sure it's beautiful.

But how does it play?

Aion was beautiful.  Tera was beautiful.  Plenty of games are beautiful.  But I'm back in WOW because it offers the best gameplay.

unlike those games you mentioned if you look this one has TONS of systems from an intricate trading system to housing to seiges.. seems to be a very sandboxy type game somewhat similar to archage.. but again i wouldn't expect this out in NA/EU till maybe end of 2014 if that

I honestly think the end of 2016 is a bit more reasonable.  

  User Deleted
4/21/13 4:19:28 PM#49

Graphics really need some work.  They look good up close and when not moving, but the texture glitches and the aggressive LOD is really bad.

It's also yet another Korean MMO, which is hardly a good thing.

  Aerowyn

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4/21/13 4:26:14 PM#50
Originally posted by Homitu
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Axehilt

Sure it's beautiful.

But how does it play?

Aion was beautiful.  Tera was beautiful.  Plenty of games are beautiful.  But I'm back in WOW because it offers the best gameplay.

unlike those games you mentioned if you look this one has TONS of systems from an intricate trading system to housing to seiges.. seems to be a very sandboxy type game somewhat similar to archage.. but again i wouldn't expect this out in NA/EU till maybe end of 2014 if that

I honestly think the end of 2016 is a bit more reasonable.  

you are probably right

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  aesperus

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4/21/13 4:37:06 PM#51

The trailer's definitely nice, but I'd hold off on getting overly hyped just yet.

For one, the trailer shows almost nothing about the game when you stop and think about it. It shows it looks pretty, and that the game has some pretty bad optimization issues it needs to work on (I don't know if you noticed, but there's a lot of texture shuttering / flickering, and framerate issues in that tech demo).

We don't know anything about the game mechanics, and that's going to be a HUGE factor in determining whether or not the game is actually good. Just look at what happened with FFXIV. I'm definitely curious about this one, though. I saw the trailer a while ago,  and kinda forgot about it.

  Roin

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4/21/13 4:38:32 PM#52
Originally posted by Aerowyn
been looking forward to this one but afraid we wont see it for a good long time.. imho has best looking characters of any MMO i have seen

They look alright but they don't blink. Non-blinking models bother me as much as bad animations.

 

Edit: And as the poster above posted. The trailer really doesn't tell you anything about the game.

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  Aerowyn

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4/21/13 4:45:33 PM#53
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Aerowyn
been looking forward to this one but afraid we wont see it for a good long time.. imho has best looking characters of any MMO i have seen

They look alright but they don't blink. Non-blinking models bother me as much as bad animations.

 

Edit: And as the poster above posted. The trailer really doesn't tell you anything about the game.

trailer doesn't but several interviews do...

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Shauneepeak

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OP  4/21/13 4:52:31 PM#54
Originally posted by aesperus

The trailer's definitely nice, but I'd hold off on getting overly hyped just yet.

For one, the trailer shows almost nothing about the game when you stop and think about it. It shows it looks pretty, and that the game has some pretty bad optimization issues it needs to work on (I don't know if you noticed, but there's a lot of texture shuttering, and framerate issues in that tech demo).

We don't know anything about the game mechanics, and that's going to be a HUGE factor in determining whether or not the game is actually good. Just look at what happened with FFXIV. I'm definitely curious about this one, though. I saw the trailer a while ago,  and kinda forgot about it.

Well we do know a decent amount actually the Housing mechanic sounds cool if it is implemented well having in game non-instanced player owned houses sounds awesome. Combat sounds similar to TERA so far. Going by the way housing works we can assume there is going to be an auction house. There will be mounts and mounted combat as well as a plan for a breeding system. NPC interaction is going to play a major role with it sounding like the developers don't want us to view them as NPC but instead of as AI living in a virtual world saying that our relatioship with one npc could lead to jealousy and even hatred from others with each NPC rewarding our friendship in one way or another. There are going to be two warring countries as the games backdrop but it is not supposed to impact our own personal gameplay very much and instead of fighting for our country we instead fight for our own personal goals or the goals of our guild. Guilds are going to be able to conquer and control territory.

 

In short it seems the only things we really don't know much about are how crafting and other forms of skilling are going to work aside from the fact we can hire NPCs to help us out while were out adventuring, and how leveling, skills, and stats are going to be implemented.

  Roin

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4/21/13 4:54:17 PM#55
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Aerowyn
been looking forward to this one but afraid we wont see it for a good long time.. imho has best looking characters of any MMO i have seen

They look alright but they don't blink. Non-blinking models bother me as much as bad animations.

 

Edit: And as the poster above posted. The trailer really doesn't tell you anything about the game.

trailer doesn't but several interviews do...

Ok so it's just that trailer. All good then. I just find non-blinking really "creepy". Like a chill up the spine.

In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.

  Shauneepeak

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OP  4/21/13 4:57:58 PM#56
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Aerowyn
been looking forward to this one but afraid we wont see it for a good long time.. imho has best looking characters of any MMO i have seen

They look alright but they don't blink. Non-blinking models bother me as much as bad animations.

 

Edit: And as the poster above posted. The trailer really doesn't tell you anything about the game.

trailer doesn't but several interviews do...

Ok so it's just that trailer. All good then. I just find non-blinking really "creepy". Like a chill up the spine.

LMFAO I totally agree with you hopefully they change that but it is something I can forgive. It is still too early to tell with things like the animation.

  XAleX360

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4/21/13 4:59:14 PM#57
Originally posted by Shauneepeak

Ok, no one can be a judge of the combat currently because no one has played it but found an interview regarding the combat and it sounds hopeful.

It's going to be actioned based, sorry people with carpal tunnel, with abilties. The main combat itself is going to try and be loose enough to not scare of the casual gamer, they are aiming for an engaging combat system that won't leave us exhausted. "we realized that we should manage users’ level of tiresome and complexity when it comes to an action combat.". Some abilities will rely on a stamina system however so hopefully it will not be a constant spam fest.

 

Full interview in multiple languages http://www.worldsfactory.net/giochi/pc/black-desert-intervista-esclusiva

Short and sweet version without much detail http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/04/18/black-desert-interview-talks-active-combat-and-the-big-picture/

Thanks for posting it! I'm the Founder & Editor in Chief of Worlds Factory and also the one who conducted the interview. 

I'm glad you people liked the interview. Unfortunately I had to be the bearer of bad news (2015 ETA, actually it was end of 2014 but just before publishing I was told to update that part :( ), but there was a lot of good information as well. Black Desert certainly looks one of the most promising MMORPGs around, I hope to get to try it at Gamescom and report about it!

 

P.S.: that's Italian!

Founder, CEO & Editor in Chief of Worlds Factory, a brand new videogame and entertainment online publication.

  Aerowyn

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4/21/13 4:59:48 PM#58
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Aerowyn
been looking forward to this one but afraid we wont see it for a good long time.. imho has best looking characters of any MMO i have seen

They look alright but they don't blink. Non-blinking models bother me as much as bad animations.

 

Edit: And as the poster above posted. The trailer really doesn't tell you anything about the game.

trailer doesn't but several interviews do...

Ok so it's just that trailer. All good then. I just find non-blinking really "creepy". Like a chill up the spine.

depends for me.. if its a game like TSW or SWTOR where you see your face all the time then yea it bothers me.. but if you hardly ever see the front of your face and others are mostly under helmets and such its not a huge deal.. but again this isn't finished footage and blinking could be added easily

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Shauneepeak

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OP  4/21/13 5:04:05 PM#59
Originally posted by XAleX360
Originally posted by Shauneepeak

Ok, no one can be a judge of the combat currently because no one has played it but found an interview regarding the combat and it sounds hopeful.

It's going to be actioned based, sorry people with carpal tunnel, with abilties. The main combat itself is going to try and be loose enough to not scare of the casual gamer, they are aiming for an engaging combat system that won't leave us exhausted. "we realized that we should manage users’ level of tiresome and complexity when it comes to an action combat.". Some abilities will rely on a stamina system however so hopefully it will not be a constant spam fest.

 

Full interview in multiple languages http://www.worldsfactory.net/giochi/pc/black-desert-intervista-esclusiva

Short and sweet version without much detail http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/04/18/black-desert-interview-talks-active-combat-and-the-big-picture/

Thanks for posting it! I'm the Founder & Editor in Chief of Worlds Factory and also the one who conducted the interview. 

I'm glad you people liked the interview. Unfortunately I had to be the bearer of bad news (2015 ETA, actually it was end of 2014 but just before publishing I was told to update that part :( ), but there was a lot of good information as well. Black Desert certainly looks one of the most promising MMORPGs around, I hope to get to try it at Gamescom and report about it!

 

P.S.: that's Italian!

Thanks very much for conducting that interview from what I have seen it contains the most information in a single source so far. I also just quickly scrolled through the Italian part it seemed longer than the English so figured it was more than one language.

I would also greatly appreciate it if you are able to report any future hands on with the game. I'll be sure to keep an eye out.

  Eir_S

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4/21/13 5:06:55 PM#60
Originally posted by Scalpless
Black Deserts is one of those games that could be awesome or just a typical grindfest with some nice gimmicks. Time will tell, but I definitely think it should get its own page and some articles.

Yep.  The thing is, if it's as much like ArcheAge as it looks but with those graphics, I'm not even going to touch AA.  The combat looks better too.

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