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General Discussion  » What does this game do well?

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4/20/13 11:00:45 PM#21
Originally posted by Calmmo

It's better than wow in every single way but for storyline. Tough luck if you're a RPer. and also worse in terms of handholding, and it is not very carebear friendly (if thats what you are after and therefore still playing wow)

Oh yeah and they have 1/100th of the budget Activision have. (oh sorry i meant Blizzard for those who think it's still the same company)


I strongly disagree with your first statement.  very strongly.


WoW's combat is simply better.  Rift for most classes/builds is such a spammy game, especially warriors and rogues where its click click lcik click click in rhythm every gcd.  Sometimes youll double click to fire off a reaction type ability.  Not saying WoW is the pinnacle of combat, but they do this style better than anyone else currently.

And if you like battleground style PvP, Rift can't hold a candle to WoW, and this is (imo) because of the soul system.  The classes in WoW are just much better defined and makes PvP a deeper experience because of it.  not saying the soul system is bad by any stretch, its just that it has its drawbacks especially in PvP.  Neither game has top notch PvP anyway.

Rift's Hammerknell is indeed the same quality of a place like Ulduar.  However its now about 20 months old and nothing has come close to it in quality since.  outside of Hammerknell Rift's raiding is merely decent.

And WoW now easily has a faster content pace (the tables have certainly turned fast in this regard).


Rift does have a great housing system (WoW has none) and does a better job with group content difficulty (although rift certainly isnt a difficult game by any stretch, its a tad tougher than WoW).  And of course the soul system, (WoWs big weakness is the removal of interesting character building (that went out the door inbetween BC and WOTLK, even before they removed the talent trees)


And as far as the budgets, WoW cost around 60 million, Rift cost "over 50 million".  So the development budgets were similar.  of course 2011 dollars is different than 2004 dollars in the game programming world, but its not like Rift wasnt a big budget game with a large team.  That team got a lot smaller last december though, while WoW is finally hiring more programmers.  WoW clearly has the bigger revenue stream which is what you were getting at but that is irrelevant to the quality of the two games.  if one game is great with a huge staff vs mediocre with a modest staff, im not going to be more likely to play the mediocre one just because it may have more quality per dev.


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4/25/13 10:56:55 AM#22

Personally, the only things I can agree with are WoW has better PvP, animations, and music.  I'd be willing to say Rift absolutely does eveything else better.  Storm Legion feels like the expansion Blizzard has kept screwing up every time they've released a new one.  If you're the type of person that liked WoW in the Burning Crusade era, take a really close look at this game.  Don't let people whining about "WoW clones" scare you away - Rift is a better WoW than WoW is today.


Also, the storyline in Rift isn't bad, it's just not shoved in your face.  Going out of your way to collect books, read quests, and talk to NPCs fills in the details nicely.  These days, Warcraft's lore is laughable in comparison.


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4/25/13 5:43:10 PM#23
As a former WOW player (five years)  two years sober and current Rift player. i REALLY like Rift. Yes it's alot like WOW and very different also. Less cartoony and community for the most part is very cool.Lore isn't bad and the game on max is freaking beautiful (Tempest Bay cherry blossoms pop). The instances are varied and fun unlike cough cough  GW2. The grind isn't real bad you can quest, do conquests and instant adventures next thing you know you are starting Storm legion areas. My advice give it a try. It's free to level  twenty. If someone gives you a raptr code for Rift and SL expansion do not put it in til you hit level twenty that way you'll have another thirty days to really get into the game. One thing about Dimensions, they are really time/platnium sinks. Last weekend I was farting around in mine and the next thing i knew it was five  hours later.

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4/25/13 5:54:11 PM#24

I quit playing it due to the fact that if you want to raid aka PVE they pretty much enforce you to do PVP these days (conquest buffs). I hate pvping in a game where pvp truly sucks.

Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.

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4/25/13 5:54:29 PM#25

It does everything "well."  Unfortunately, it doesn't stand out in any way either.  Generic combat.  Generic setting.  Generic MMO features.

It really just lacks originality and soul.


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4/26/13 10:57:17 PM#26
Originally posted by asmkm22

It does everything "well."  Unfortunately, it doesn't stand out in any way either.  Generic combat.  Generic setting.  Generic MMO features.

It really just lacks originality and soul.

soul is hard to quantify.  i agree that its important in a game ... its that intangible that breaths life into the world- though i do feel rift has it.   the art style is subdued compared to wow but the game world to me has that soul factor.


as opposed to WAR and SWTOR for example which i felt dramaticallly lacked soul.

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4/26/13 11:05:24 PM#27

I am not hating on the game but imo it did nothing well,that is why i could not stick with it.

I am not saying it did anything bad,well except Invasions,they were done terribly cheap.The game just basically does everything same old on an average basis.

Every game i have enjoyed it did do something unique and little bit different and that is why i stuck with those games.I beleive the op and a lot others are looking for that same uniqueness in games.

I won't bother to go into al lthe details,post will be too long but i can post some of the long list of games that did soemthing special to attract me.

Doom,Quake,Unreal,Unreal Tournament,Half Life,Serious Sam,Everquest,Everquest 2,Ultima,FFXi,Vanguard,Age of Conan.

There are several other games ,some very old,some very new but the yal ldid something a little different or speical to separate them from the other games.

I know some people might be thinking,well wait Rifts were different,unique?Nope they are exactly the same idea that went into FFXI's Campaign design,the only difference of course is the visual.
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4/26/13 11:07:17 PM#28
At first I would have said the class and soul system, but then realize that the majority of the souls within a class lack any kind of synergy and there are definite must have matches and where others even work against each other.  One of the biggest examples is the Chloromancer soul.  Most people pick it in order to heal, but you can only do reasonable healing if you stick with Chloro only skills.  Any cross skills will only net you 5% healing return versus the 50% to 100% when using Chloro only skills.

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4/26/13 11:09:07 PM#29
Originally posted by strangiato2112
Originally posted by Calmmo

It's better than wow in every single way but for storyline. Tough luck if you're a RPer. and also worse in terms of handholding, and it is not very carebear friendly (if thats what you are after and therefore still playing wow)

Oh yeah and they have 1/100th of the budget Activision have. (oh sorry i meant Blizzard for those who think it's still the same company)


I strongly disagree with your first statement.  very strongly.


WoW's combat is simply better.  Rift for most classes/builds is such a spammy game, especially warriors and rogues where its click click lcik click click in rhythm every gcd.  Sometimes youll double click to fire off a reaction type ability.  Not saying WoW is the pinnacle of combat, but they do this style better than anyone else currently.

 Eh its a much of muchness type battle. Both games can be played with a supermacro and neither are particularly challenging. Got Storm Legion for free from Raptr, and it was fun for about 30 minutes, before the monotony of supermacros set in. Was just filling time til Neverwinter, but I thought it would at least keep me longer than that.

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