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General Discussion  » Update 19: Evening Update April 16, 2013

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  naezgul

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4/16/13 8:55:34 PM#21
Originally posted by drakon3
Originally posted by Tierless

The only thing that I can't roll with, and I'm sure this will be the big hate or love thing, is wings of that size on the rear. As they are now they feel like they are tacked on just for the sake of it. I would rather they are either more clothing/leg wrap/cloak/armor and appear useless for flying, or tiny and used as a sort of social status symbol to attract mates, like the antlers on the TDD. I think they are stuck in an undecided neutral area as they are now (they dont know if they should be for flying, or clothing, or status.

Semi-useless wings have been around for a while (see Dragonlance amoung others), and I think they provide a bit of much needed spice to the lore.  I appreciate that they aren't following the same WoW / D&D fantasy stereotypes for races.

 

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  tlear

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4/16/13 10:08:22 PM#22
Those wings.. yuck
  supergfunk

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4/16/13 10:10:58 PM#23

I really like the rendered version, the wings are cut back some and are more like a cloak effect and  the head/hair looks really sweet...I like.

 

  redcapp

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OP  4/16/13 10:32:06 PM#24

I like it.  The concept art is meh, but the actual model is bad ass IMO.  Who cares about the functionality of wings on a mythical creature.  There are countless such unrealistic creatures out there.  Besides, it could surely be explained through lore. 

Regardless, I do like the look.  The only questionable thing in my mind was the hooves. 

  naezgul

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4/16/13 10:46:32 PM#25
Originally posted by redcapp

I like it.  The concept art is meh, but the actual model is bad ass IMO.  Who cares about the functionality of wings on a mythical creature.  There are countless such unrealistic creatures out there.  Besides, it could surely be explained through lore. 

Regardless, I do like the look.  The only questionable thing in my mind was the hooves. 

I think they are talons.....they even have the cockspur on the calf...

  taurak

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4/16/13 10:59:38 PM#26

[mod edit]

 

I "think" the race is some sort of a human-dragonkin mix, in which case the feet make sense.

The model is pretty amazing. The wings, well yeah they might be a little oddly placed, but still I love the model. Whoever made it is very talented.

  Stiler

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4/17/13 2:32:21 AM#27

I think the kwings could be awesome if they incorporate it into the entire design of the character and hav ethe wings be utilized for combat atnd other things.

 

Using their wings to block, maybe attack, perhaps the wings give them the ability to "glide" (IE not flight but can jump off things and glide down, etc). This will give them some tactical differences to other races without straight up giving themt he ability to fly (since I doubt that'll be in).

Allow players to perhaps put armour on the wings (if they are a fighter with said race, and the wings are use dto block, it would stand to reason they'd armour them ).

 

If the wings are used in some fashion it can add to the uniquness of them being so low on the character instead of the normal shoulder-area.

  Benezetta

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4/17/13 2:48:11 AM#28
The St'rm are awesome!  I don't think I'd want to play one, but many players would and that's great.  I think they did a wonderful job on the animation.  But the wings seem to be a bit awkward, maybe just a bit too big.  Maybe make them a big smaller and give them reduced falling damage as a racial trait since they could "glide" down.
  Hagnar

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4/17/13 4:34:49 AM#29
I really like the new race! But we still don't know for which faction it will be available....... I'd say TDD! 

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  meddyck

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4/17/13 7:22:33 AM#30
Just curious how many people would actually play this race. It doesn't interest me at this point.

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  belatucadros

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4/17/13 7:46:34 AM#31
Originally posted by meddyck
Just curious how many people would actually play this race. It doesn't interest me at this point.

I voted yes. I think it looks pretty cool, and honestly I just see my character's ass 99% of the time anyway - it could be a stick figure for all I care.

More excited for the 'building' update later this week and the RVR update, whenever that comes out. (I think the week after?)

And of course, more iterations on the engine/smackhammer.

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  taus01

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4/17/13 8:18:15 AM#32

 

Character looks ok, wings are a bit weird but if they stay like in the high poly walk cycle and function as a kind of cape then they don't look that ridiculous. Just don't make these ass-wings functional please.

Would be interested to see the real low poly model in the game engine, that hair for example. A textured version would also be nice to see (in engine, low poly).

 

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  Cruorr

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4/17/13 8:48:42 AM#33
Nice model but I'll put in another vote for lose the ass wings. I'd like the races to make some evolutionary sense, wings don't make much sense in that location, and seem they would hinder movement.
  mklinic

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4/17/13 8:56:10 AM#34
Originally posted by Cruorr
I'd like the races to make some evolutionary sense

your argument is invalid....(kidding ;) )

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  Axxar

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4/17/13 9:06:59 AM#35
I think that race has a lot of potential and looks cool, but I agree it looks a bit odd to have the wings on the butt. Moving them to the upper back might look better. It's not so bad when you see it walking and the wings kind of look like a dress, bit the artwork where it's facing towars you with the wings unfolded it looks wrong to me.

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  belatucadros

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4/17/13 10:14:04 AM#36
Originally posted by taus01

 

Character looks ok, wings are a bit weird but if they stay like in the high poly walk cycle and function as a kind of cape then they don't look that ridiculous. Just don't make these ass-wings functional please.

Would be interested to see the real low poly model in the game engine, that hair for example. A textured version would also be nice to see (in engine, low poly).

 

was that "high poly" though? The other animations we've seen have all been the same 12k limit that andrew has imposed for CU.

Was it mentioned that they didn't stick to that?

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  Danwarr

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4/17/13 10:26:38 AM#37
I love how when a new race is developed by a completely organic artistic process, suddenly everyone has a PhD in Evolutionary Biology and says that races have to make "evolutionary sense". 

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  Karraptathid

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4/17/13 10:48:52 AM#38

Cool looking Mob.  As a player race, hope it's TDD, I'll enjoy killing them.

 

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  belatucadros

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4/17/13 11:19:56 AM#39
Originally posted by Danwarr
I love how when a new race is developed by a completely organic artistic process, suddenly everyone has a PhD in Evolutionary Biology and says that races have to make "evolutionary sense". 

lol. Yeah, step 1 - it's fantasy, this is a work in progress, etc.

 

but step 2 - simple. put it on the females only. the dragonmen find that shit SEXY. the women with the bestest wings are the most likely to breed. in 10,000 years, they may well be full dragons, or at least have massive wings ;p

 

BAM. SCIENCED.

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  Aerowyn

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4/17/13 11:25:06 AM#40
Originally posted by belatucadros
Originally posted by Danwarr
I love how when a new race is developed by a completely organic artistic process, suddenly everyone has a PhD in Evolutionary Biology and says that races have to make "evolutionary sense". 

lol. Yeah, step 1 - it's fantasy, this is a work in progress, etc.

 

but step 2 - simple. put it on the females only. the dragonmen find that shit SEXY. the women with the bestest wings are the most likely to breed. in 10,000 years, they may well be full dragons, or at least have massive wings ;p

 

BAM. SCIENCED.

 

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