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  TsaboHavoc

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4/16/13 9:13:46 AM#41
Originally posted by Soliloquy
Originally posted by sirjonnyboy

it looked just like skyrim but with other ppl running around to me. and im okay with it.  someone also said they saw tab targetting.... i didnt...

 

some leaked beta footage chinese hosting site so no ban.

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too late, just watched the video and its the same old beaten formula killtenrats fetch me some bear , the character seems to float around, its all static and lifeless, it rewards the player for every single thing, like walk 3 steps win 10xp, well nothing we didnt know before, its ... bad, bland and boring, its a kick in the nuts of the tes fans.

  Distopia

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4/16/13 9:15:15 AM#42
I'm still confused about what i was supposed to see in that short video, good or bad.

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  Gravarg

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4/16/13 9:16:19 AM#43

That's acutally not a bad thing imho.  getting 10 xp every 3 steps.  I love to explore, why not get xp while doing it :D  A couple days ago in Defiance a GM teleported me off a roof that I jumped my challenger up onto to snipe enemies from.  They couldn't reach me, and it was an "unintended area of play" rofl :)

 

I was like, I'm always in "unintended areas of play" :)

  Tsumoro

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4/16/13 9:16:31 AM#44
Originally posted by archeageking

Serioudly right now im royally pissed, i saw the leaked footage on the gameplay and im really RELALLY REALLY pissed off at zenimax. I dont care about the graphics, but by god i want to smash my keyboard right now. Its soooo generic, im just so freaking pissed off right now. I blew so many hours into skyrim, and now they are going to release this crap.

 

Im fuming. 

This is why the content shouldn't of been 'leaked' because of reactions like this among the Elder Scrolls fan community. I can only say that if you are dubious about the game from the early content you have seen, then wait until a review of it to come out to see if its a game for you. 

The trouble with it is that the franchise has  massive community which is strengthened by the modding side of things. Its why people keep playing the games because the sheer amount of mods and personal tweaks and touches that contribute to enhancing the game. 

The MMO will not give you a 'foundry' based system, it will have to succeed on its own merits and the fans will need to trust the developer to make the game in synch with the experience of prior Elder Scrolls games. If they do not, and they keep the classic tropes from typical MMO gaming then they face backlash on two fronts. One, from MMO gamers who are thinking this is going to offer something differen't. The other is the fans who will fee the spirit of their belove franchise has been jaded  by a cash-in to the MMO market. 

It's really too early to tell at the moment as it could go either way, but I would say there is a reason why they have NDA's and why early footage being leaked can harm the game. 

 

 

  Panzerbase

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4/16/13 9:21:36 AM#45
Oh please with the NDA nonsense already, it's evident players under an NDA will always release information, companies know this and if they're so worried about leaks then perhaps they should reconsider testing methods. Oh wait they're really not worried about it as it's free advertising........ until people complain then the NDA is in effect. Can't have it both ways.
  Amana

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4/16/13 9:46:06 AM#46
That's all not our concern, as long as it's not posted or specific details discussed here before NDA is lifted.

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  Torvaldr

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4/16/13 10:00:34 AM#47
Originally posted by Heretique
Originally posted by robrose89
why do people always forget that beta is beta? Can't judge the whole game's content over a 20 minute video from beta...

Game will be released this year, what you see in beta is most of what you'll see at launch. Can't use this excuse all the time.

Maybe you don't alpha/beta test or maybe you just "test" to do dungeon runs before launch, but what you say is not true at all.

Most games optimize graphics, implement changes, and polish systems up until freeze a couple weeks before launch.  Even then they're still testing the post release patch past that.

  Pewpsockemz

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4/16/13 10:04:23 AM#48
You sirs, have been trolled. Good day.
  Vorch

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4/16/13 10:27:37 AM#49
Originally posted by Distopia
I'm still confused about what i was supposed to see in that short video, good or bad.

Same here.

I was expecting something horrible...looks like standard 3rd person TES adapted for an MMO...

I wish the first person mode worked the same, though.

Still hoping it's buy-to-play, but prepared for P2P and F2P/B2P in 6-12 months. Seems like a decent game from what I've seen and heard.

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  PieRad

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4/16/13 10:48:09 AM#50

Can someone pm me the link to the leaked footage.

 

Would appreciate it, thanks.

  Punk999

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4/16/13 12:10:41 PM#51

What are you so pissed about?

All the video showed was some idiot running around killing critters, and dieing to mostly everything else.

Yet it is now so generic because of said video...

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  Vendac

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4/16/13 12:50:22 PM#52
Originally posted by rojo6934

i watched the infamous leaked video today and as an mmo it looks fine to me. However, like i said a few times before, if TESO isnt better than Skyrim then i expect a game purchase only, no subscription required. Im still having a blast in Skyrim for only 60 bucks (the DLCs and the amazing modding community together makes more content than the devs will ever do even with a sub unless its as successful as WoW to make more content than that). Not willing to pay a sub for TESO unless its better and offers more than SKyrim itself.

The thing is it will over time.  You can have all the DLC and community modded stuff you want, but it will Skyrim will never be multiplayer or have PvP.  That is why Skyrim is single player, and ESO is an MMO.  They are 2 totally different games when you get down to the nuts and bolts of it even though they may share some some of the same things.

If your not cool with that, and dont want to pay a sub that will cost less than going out to dinner at a decent restaurant, going to see a movie, or having a few drinks at the local bar, then dont...  Free to play or buy to play is NOT the answer!

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  Machineowar

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4/16/13 1:12:51 PM#53
I don't know why you would be angry. If you had been paying any attention at all to the recent trend of MMO's being boring themeparks trying to cash in on WoW's popularity(which isn't even all that relevent anymore, really), you'd have seen this coming. I'm sure the people burned by TOR did. Atleast I would hope so.
  ShakyMo

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4/16/13 6:13:34 PM#54

yeah sadly it looks like more of the same.  I got a feeling we were in for wow like lead by the nose questing after reading the RPS preview - "As soon as I began my demo session, I did as any self-respecting Elder Scrolls fan would: abandoned all pretenses of following the main story and struck out on my own, ready to turn the world upside-down and shake it until every last crumb of adventure fell out. I pointed my Orc in one direction, and off I went.

I gave up in 20 minutes." http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/19/experiment-playing-teso-like-an-elder-scrolls-game/

so pve is like wow, not like TES (or daoc for that matter)

we've had a bunch of wow clones with a gimick

rift with its rifts

swtor with its story

aoc with its action combat

etc..

then we had wow clones with two gimicks

like tsw with its freeform progression and story

now we have a wow clone with 3 gimicks

1 equality of pve/pvp/crafting gear from daoc (i expect this to change as more raid types whine)

2 some half arsed attempt at an rvr endgame - this will be broken by the mega server, the ability to guest in other players campaigns and the ability to swap campaign for a aliance point penalty - SEE GUILDWARS 2 & TSW

3 action combat

  Squatchin

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4/16/13 7:45:10 PM#55
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Does anyone realise that video was intentionally made to make TES look bad?


HAHA yeah no kidding, I kinda guessed that myself, obviously the player had every intention to do what he/she could to begin a smear campaign.

It worked.

I didn't think the game looked bad at all, I will have to test it myself to completely make sure I want to spend my money on this.

Now if they would just send me an invite :D


  BrownAle

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4/16/13 11:01:59 PM#56

I agree the video is made with the purpose of trashing the game.  With that said, LOTS of people are going to hate this game. Its a mmorpg and its going to play like one...like every other mmorpg that is out there.

Why did they decide to even bother when they are doing so well with single player RPGs?

Well my guess is that when they started the project it was long enough ago to where mmorpg players werent bitter entitled jerks and actually enjoyed games for entertainment.  Thats all changed and its never going back to normal.

This game will flop by this communities standards, no matter how good it is at whatever they are attempting to do.

Ill probably enjoy it a decent amount for what it is, as ive enjoyed numerous games that are "cool" to hate..while being bored to tears in most games that its "cool" to fawn over. 

 

Either way...this game is a bad idea, its going to hurt zenimax's reputation and i honestly see this game going into maintenance mode within 2 years.  Why would they waste rescources on a game and a community that is incapible of enjoying the fruits of their labor, even if its not the most awesomness game ever.  And we all know that can only be achieved by topping one certain game in monthly subscriptiosn, which wont ever happen since people now hate paying for entertainment.

Really bad idea to make this game, and i really would expect a LOT of development studios to stop bothering with making mmorpgs in the near future.  Market is too saturated, community cannot be pleased and will bad mouth the entire company over a mmorpg...forever too (thing theres still some failcom people who havent let AOC launch die lol)

 

No matter what this game does, its already been marked as a cool game to hate and trash.  Its already over for the game.  With that said i look forward to it lol...im sure the pve will be fantastic and i think no risk pvp in themeparks is the lamest activity they can offer, even if they have 3 NPC factions to pvp with... Ill play for the pve storyline and then probably move on satisfied with the purchase...

 

  baphamet

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4/16/13 11:27:16 PM#57


Originally posted by BrownAle
I agree the video is made with the purpose of trashing the game.  With that said, LOTS of people are going to hate this game. Its a mmorpg and its going to play like one...like every other mmorpg that is out there.

Why did they decide to even bother when they are doing so well with single player RPGs?

Well my guess is that when they started the project it was long enough ago to where mmorpg players werent bitter entitled jerks and actually enjoyed games for entertainment.  Thats all changed and its never going back to normal.

This game will flop by this communities standards, no matter how good it is at whatever they are attempting to do.

Ill probably enjoy it a decent amount for what it is, as ive enjoyed numerous games that are "cool" to hate..while being bored to tears in most games that its "cool" to fawn over. 

 

Either way...this game is a bad idea, its going to hurt zenimax's reputation and i honestly see this game going into maintenance mode within 2 years.  Why would they waste rescources on a game and a community that is incapible of enjoying the fruits of their labor, even if its not the most awesomness game ever.  And we all know that can only be achieved by topping one certain game in monthly subscriptiosn, which wont ever happen since people now hate paying for entertainment.

Really bad idea to make this game, and i really would expect a LOT of development studios to stop bothering with making mmorpgs in the near future.  Market is too saturated, community cannot be pleased and will bad mouth the entire company over a mmorpg...forever too (thing theres still some failcom people who havent let AOC launch die lol)

 

No matter what this game does, its already been marked as a cool game to hate and trash.  Its already over for the game.  With that said i look forward to it lol...im sure the pve will be fantastic and i think no risk pvp in themeparks is the lamest activity they can offer, even if they have 3 NPC factions to pvp with... Ill play for the pve storyline and then probably move on satisfied with the purchase...

 


very much agree with most of this but i am looking forward to the pvp as i don't play online games without it.


  shalissar

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4/17/13 1:45:32 AM#58

It looks like AoC with all them graphics turned down. I ain't complaining, skill based AoC without a FUBAR pvp endgame is a prospect that gets me hyperventilating. Can't wait for more details!

 

The rest of y'all have fun waiting for that mmo that you'll finally be satisfied with. :)

  DavisFlight

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4/17/13 1:51:16 AM#59
Originally posted by robrose89
why do people always forget that beta is beta?

A beta hasn't meant a "beta" for a good 5 years now. Not in AAA MMORPGs. Nothing changes from the time beta testing starts until now. Nothing to make it less generic.

  DavisFlight

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4/17/13 1:56:39 AM#60
Originally posted by BrownAle

I agree the video is made with the purpose of trashing the game.  With that said, LOTS of people are going to hate this game. Its a mmorpg and its going to play like one...like every other mmorpg that is out there.

Er, no. It doesn't play "like every other MMORPG" it plays like a generic, watered down phoned in WoW clone.

Back in the earlier interviews, Matt had some good ideas. The DAoC styled RvR, the public dungeons, the focus on socializing. Then the publishers got their hooks into him. Now it's just a generic WoW clone. And with all the money behind it, they should be absolutely ashamed they shat out such an uninspired piece of garbage.

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