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  grimal

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4/15/13 6:44:01 AM#41

OP -

Eventually, with any MMO, one is bound to reach a point where the game just doesn't hold them any longer.   The game's limitations and/or faults will become magnified and the love you once felt will be replaced by a general feeling of tedium towards it.

It happens with every game.  Shelf the game and move on.  You may find after some time has passed that the game can offer you its magic once again.

 

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  Betaguy

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4/15/13 6:49:29 AM#42
Originally posted by Tinybina

I'm going to keep this short in sweet but this was the biggest reason why I never played GW2.  

 

The lack of the "Holy trinity" in a MMO is just not the type of MMO I want to play. 

 

So while I would find it a little wierd that it took you this long for it to hit you, I can complelety understand why you left.

 QFEx2

  Gardavsshade

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4/15/13 6:52:20 AM#43
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Exactly the problem with GW2

 

They set to remove everything bad and annoying things about MMO.

But forgot that all those bad and annoying things are part of the what makes a MMO.

 

What you got is a very fun, albeit shallow game that is NOT MMO.

Except this , and go back having fun.

 

Or install Age of  Wushu, EVE

Or TERA...even Vanguard.

 

Well Said. Thank you.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  DKLond

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4/15/13 7:03:13 AM#44

Remember the first time you fell in love completely?

How many times have you experienced something quite like that since then?

No matter how wonderful and beautiful the person you fall in love with now - they can't quite measure up to that first experience.

So, maybe it's not the people you meet - but the person THEY meet.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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There... are... four... lights!

4/15/13 7:04:00 AM#45
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by Wizardry

What bothers me though is the ATTITUDE so many take up when they hear anything negative about a game.not once did the OP ever sound like he was "TRASHING" the game,he made an extremely valid point becuase you are suppose to be ROLE playing a character and feeling like you are all the while  important in that ROLE.

Notice i keep mentioning the word ROLE,this is a rpg you know?

The game that made RPGs popular was D&D. D&D doesn't have tanks or healers. It doesn't really have roles, either. Currently, the most influential edition of D&D is 3.5e, in which every character can learn every skill and you pick a class every level, so your character can be a mage, a warrior AND a thief.

Role-playing has absolutely nothing to do with the artificial, limited and dumb holy trinity system MMORPGs use nowadays. Role-playing is about defining your character. Not picking a pre-defined archetype and pressing some buttons in the correct order.

I've already posted that several times, but some people have their heads so deeply stuck in the EQ/WoW clone mold that they think it's the only way to make such a game, and that mashing buttons as tank, dps or healer is "roleplaying".

In fact, I'd say that, out of all MMOs I've played, the GW series is closest to D&D combat wise.

In the MMO genre, Ultima Online and Asheron's Call don't have a trinity either. Both are still alive and kicking today.

EDIT: I'd even argue that those two games have more RP friendly rules than D&D, even though 3.5e improved that greatly with mixed classes. In both UO and AC1, you aren't forced into a class. Want take magic? You can. Want also be an archer? Just do it. Skill based character development systems are way more RP friendly than class based ones in my opinion. It's easier to play the role of a character when you can select the skills the character has instead of the computer doing it for you.

Playing now: WoW, Landmark, GW2

Got a refund: Archeage. First refund since I started MMOs.

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  Kenaoshi

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Joined: 1/21/09
Posts: 1013

4/15/13 7:14:26 AM#46
I agree... they need to implement THE battle axe. i mean... i am a Great Sword warrior but.. i tried the hammer but the skills sucked, but the Great Axe... THE GREAT AXE is a iconic weapon, i mean... its the last thing that prevents the Norn Warriors of becoming the ultimate ultra badass barbarians :(

now: GW2 (10 80s).
Dark Souls 2.
future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
"Bro, do your even fractal?"
Recommends: Guild Wars 2, Dark Souls, Mount&Blade: Warband, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.

  Volkon

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Facts do not require fiction for balance.

4/15/13 7:17:17 AM#47
Originally posted by Calintz333

 What I am  referring to is the two handed axe or Greataxe...

I don't feel any different playing with a Mesmer vs. a Thief, vs. a Warrior, it all feels the same...

Am I nuts?

 

OP, you may or may not be nuts, but that's irrelevant to your enjoying GW2, so stop changing the subject! (Yeah, told him.)

 

As far as not feeling the "need to belong"... I really can't quite grasp what you're talking about there. Trinity style games don't give you a sense of belonging (imo), only a job that any plug and play tank/healer/dps can do in your absence. You need a healer? Doesn't really matter what class healer you get, so long as they follow the script of the fight and keep the tank healed. Need a tank? Again, any class with a tank role will do, he only needs to follow the script and keep the boss' attention on him. DPS? Please. Any dps classes at all, do your job, don't stand in the fire, if you die it's your own fault yada yada. 

 

I find the sense of belonging greater in the GW2 system because there are no set roles. You have to do a bit of everything while looking out for your allies at the same time. You see allies on fire, drop a null field around them to help them out. A feedback bubble in the right place protects everyone for a few seconds while providing a stylish means for cross-profession combos. Maybe you've chosen a profession with more support to it... well, you're still doing more than support (if you're doing it right) by adding your own damage and adding control, which should be reducing the need for heals. 

 

BTW, we knew pre-beta that there weren't any two-handed swords in the game, so it's odd that it took you until now to realize that... 

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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There... are... four... lights!

4/15/13 7:18:25 AM#48
Originally posted by Kenaoshi
I agree... they need to implement THE battle axe. i mean... i am a Great Sword warrior but.. i tried the hammer but the skills sucked, but the Great Axe... THE GREAT AXE is a iconic weapon, i mean... its the last thing that prevents the Norn Warriors of becoming the ultimate ultra badass barbarians :(

That would be a good opportuntiy to give new skills to classes in a future expansion.

They will also find a new weapon to add for casters then though - maybe Orbs?

Playing now: WoW, Landmark, GW2

Got a refund: Archeage. First refund since I started MMOs.

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4180

Looking forward to Black Desert, Kingdom Under Fire II and Skyforge.

4/15/13 7:20:53 AM#49
Understand totally what you are saying and its the reason why alot of us stopped playing. It simply lacks everything that makes  you want want to log in to a mmo. 

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
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4/15/13 7:21:03 AM#50
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Exactly the problem with GW2

 

They set to remove everything bad and annoying things about MMO.

But forgot that all those bad and annoying things are part of the what makes a MMO.

 

What you got is a very fun, albeit shallow game that is NOT MMO.

Except this , and go back having fun.

 

Or install Age of  Wushu, EVE

Or TERA...even Vanguard.

 

Ok, if thousands of people play  a game at the same time, what is it called if not an MMO? I'm not trying to argue but it is an MMORPG. It's has Massive amounts of players, and you take on the role of a character that advances through play. /shrug

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  Kenaoshi

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Joined: 1/21/09
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4/15/13 7:21:09 AM#51
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Kenaoshi
I agree... they need to implement THE battle axe. i mean... i am a Great Sword warrior but.. i tried the hammer but the skills sucked, but the Great Axe... THE GREAT AXE is a iconic weapon, i mean... its the last thing that prevents the Norn Warriors of becoming the ultimate ultra badass barbarians :(

That would be a good opportuntiy to give new skills to classes in a future expansion.

They will also find a new weapon to add for casters then though - maybe Orbs?

May the gods carry your wisdom to the makers (devs). 

now: GW2 (10 80s).
Dark Souls 2.
future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
"Bro, do your even fractal?"
Recommends: Guild Wars 2, Dark Souls, Mount&Blade: Warband, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.

  Naqaj

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4/15/13 7:26:51 AM#52
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Exactly the problem with GW2

 

They set to remove everything bad and annoying things about MMO.

But forgot that all those bad and annoying things are part of the what makes a MMO.

 

What you got is a very fun, albeit shallow game that is NOT MMO.

Except this , and go back having fun.

 

Or install Age of  Wushu, EVE

Or TERA...even Vanguard.

 

Ok, if thousands of people play  a game at the same time, what is it called if not an MMO? I'm not trying to argue but it is an MMORPG. It's has Massive amounts of players, and you take on the role of a character that advances through play. /shrug

It is without question an MMO, but it is getting rid of many legacy PC-RPG mechanics. So I guess you can argue about the latter half of MMORPG.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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There... are... four... lights!

4/15/13 7:33:34 AM#53
Originally posted by Naqaj

It is without question an MMO, but it is getting rid of many legacy PC-RPG mechanics. So I guess you can argue about the latter half of MMORPG.

Really? For instance, how many PC-RPG rely on a trinity system? Skyrim? Oblivion? Neverwinter Nights? The old Ultima series? Icewind Dale? Baldur's Gate?

Dang... none of them has that trinity thing.

There not only one way to do things. It's not because EQ introduced stuff like the trinity and threat based combat that it's the best thing ever.

It was time a AAA MMORPG developer had the balls to make a game without these obsolete mechanics, since in the last 8 years, the genre stagnated producing bad WoW clones after worse WoW clones.

Playing now: WoW, Landmark, GW2

Got a refund: Archeage. First refund since I started MMOs.

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  Amjoco

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4/15/13 7:42:02 AM#54
Originally posted by Naqaj
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Exactly the problem with GW2

 

They set to remove everything bad and annoying things about MMO.

But forgot that all those bad and annoying things are part of the what makes a MMO.

 

What you got is a very fun, albeit shallow game that is NOT MMO.

Except this , and go back having fun.

 

Or install Age of  Wushu, EVE

Or TERA...even Vanguard.

 

Ok, if thousands of people play  a game at the same time, what is it called if not an MMO? I'm not trying to argue but it is an MMORPG. It's has Massive amounts of players, and you take on the role of a character that advances through play. /shrug

It is without question an MMO, but it is getting rid of many legacy PC-RPG mechanics. So I guess you can argue about the latter half of MMORPG.

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  Volkon

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4/15/13 7:43:16 AM#55
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Naqaj

It is without question an MMO, but it is getting rid of many legacy PC-RPG mechanics. So I guess you can argue about the latter half of MMORPG.

Really? For instance, how many PC-RPG rely on a trinity system? Skyrim? Oblivion? Dragon Age? Neverwinter Nights? The old Ultima series? Icewind Dale? Baldur's Gate?

Dang... none of them has that trinity thing.

There not only one way to do things. It's not because EQ introduced stuff like the trinity and threat based combat that it's the best thing ever.

It was time a AAA MMORPG developer had the balls to make a game without these obsolete mechanics, since in the last 8 years, the genre stagnated producing bad WoW clones after worse WoW clones.

I think WoW is a glaring example of how the "trinity" is a pretty much failing system. Yes, WoW is madly successful and I had a blast playing it, but man, the fights... especially the boss fights... so damned stagnant. Each and every one. There's no variety or chaos within a fight at all, everything is tied to a script. You succeed by two things alone... having enough gear and following the script, and that's it. That's the plague the trinity has imposed on MMOs that people can't or won't see. You're not allowed to be you, just an actor on the stage following a script, and if you fail the script you fail the fight, period. 

 

Removing the trinity allows you to think on your feet and react to situations as you need to by using the skills you have when you need to for the best effects. Skills have multiple facets to them, not only doing damage, control or support, usually a blend of each and many have post-cast effects that can change things up quite a bit. There's no script you simply must follow, you can take anyone and be successful through a variety of means. 

 

Back in Lich King (I quit pre-Cata) I was a heck of a good pally tank or marksman hunter. But... that's all I was too... a pally tank or a marksman (dps) hunter. There was no variety. Just stagnant tanking or pew-pewing while staring at recount or the threat-meter. Every fight winds up exactly the same. Follow the script. The script may vary, but the fights wind up nothing more than muscle memory and a barely engaged mind. The curse of the trinity is that it comes at the expense of thought.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  RizelStar

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4/15/13 7:44:19 AM#56
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Exactly the problem with GW2

 

They set to remove everything bad and annoying things about MMO.

But forgot that all those bad and annoying things are part of the what makes a MMO.

 

What you got is a very fun, albeit shallow game that is NOT MMO.

Except this , and go back having fun.

 

Or install Age of  Wushu, EVE

Or TERA...even Vanguard.

 

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4/15/13 7:45:40 AM#57
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Naqaj

It is without question an MMO, but it is getting rid of many legacy PC-RPG mechanics. So I guess you can argue about the latter half of MMORPG.

Really? For instance, how many PC-RPG rely on a trinity system? Skyrim? Oblivion? Dragon Age? Neverwinter Nights? The old Ultima series? Icewind Dale? Baldur's Gate?

Dang... none of them has that trinity thing.

There not only one way to do things. It's not because EQ introduced stuff like the trinity and threat based combat that it's the best thing ever.

It was time a AAA MMORPG developer had the balls to make a game without these obsolete mechanics, since in the last 8 years, the genre stagnated producing bad WoW clones after worse WoW clones.

I almost always agree with what you say, but I just wanted to point that Dragon Age (at least DA:O) uses the trinity system.  That's all though :)  Keep up the good fight!

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4/15/13 7:50:58 AM#58
Originally posted by rodingo

I almost always agree with what you say, but I just wanted to point that Dragon Age (at least DA:O) uses the trinity system.  That's all though :)  Keep up the good fight!

Ah yes, you are right of course, I got carried away by my enthousiasm - thanks for correcting me, I fixed my post :)

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4/15/13 7:55:11 AM#59
Really? For instance, how many PC-RPG rely on a trinity system? Skyrim? Oblivion? Dragon Age? Neverwinter Nights? The old Ultima series? Icewind Dale? Baldur's Gate?

Dang... none of them has that trinity thing.

There not only one way to do things. It's not because EQ introduced stuff like the trinity and threat based combat that it's the best thing ever.

It was time a AAA MMORPG developer had the balls to make a game without these obsolete mechanics, since in the last 8 years, the genre stagnated producing bad WoW clones after worse WoW clones.

I think WoW is a glaring example of how the "trinity" is a pretty much failing system. Yes, WoW is madly successful and I had a blast playing it, but man, the fights... especially the boss fights... so damned stagnant. Each and every one. There's no variety or chaos within a fight at all, everything is tied to a script. You succeed by two things alone... having enough gear and following the script, and that's it. That's the plague the trinity has imposed on MMOs that people can't or won't see. You're not allowed to be you, just an actor on the stage following a script, and if you fail the script you fail the fight, period. 

 

Removing the trinity allows you to think on your feet and react to situations as you need to by using the skills you have when you need to for the best effects. Skills have multiple facets to them, not only doing damage, control or support, usually a blend of each and many have post-cast effects that can change things up quite a bit. There's no script you simply must follow, you can take anyone and be successful through a variety of means. 

 

Back in Lich King (I quit pre-Cata) I was a heck of a good pally tank or marksman hunter. But... that's all I was too... a pally tank or a marksman (dps) hunter. There was no variety. Just stagnant tanking or pew-pewing while staring at recount or the threat-meter. Every fight winds up exactly the same. Follow the script. The script may vary, but the fights wind up nothing more than muscle memory and a barely engaged mind. The curse of the trinity is that it comes at the expense of thought.

All great points. I love WoW and the trinity system, but I also embrace change and GW2 is a step in the right direction.

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4/15/13 7:58:27 AM#60
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Exactly the problem with GW2

 

They set to remove everything bad and annoying things about MMO.

But forgot that all those bad and annoying things are part of the what makes a MMO.

 

What you got is a very fun, albeit shallow game that is NOT MMO.

Except this , and go back having fun.

 

Or install Age of  Wushu, EVE

Or TERA...even Vanguard.

 

Not everyone is a masochist and want to subject himslef to countless hours of annoyances and "bad parts" of the game for some promise of fun that never actually comes, just more and more annoyances and bad parts.

And redefining "deep" as "annoying and bad"...just lol

Yes, GW2 is guilty of being very fun...guess not everyones cup of tea :)

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