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  BadSpock

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/21/04
Posts: 7682

Logic be damned!

4/22/13 11:48:35 AM#221

I took a long break from GW2 and am now just getting back into it.

I forgot how fun and beautiful the game simply is.

I burned out - that's for sure.

I hit 80 on my Guardian and quickly lost the desire to play every day, which then turned into weeks and weeks off.

Rolling a new toon is thus far very refreshing and fun.

Perhaps this time I'll get into WvW as my "end game" and bring honor and victory to my realm and guild.

The dungeons disappointed me, but I haven't played any since the patches.

We'll see - GW2 doesn't cost me anything further to enjoy which is a massive, massive plus to me.

Will hopefully continue to tide me over until the next batch of games is released.

 

Now Playing: D3:RoS, Watch Dogs
Looking Towards: Destiny

  Jean-Luc_Picard

Elite Member

Joined: 1/10/13
Posts: 2665

There... are... four... lights!

4/22/13 11:51:11 AM#222
Originally posted by BadSpock

The dungeons disappointed me, but I haven't played any since the patches.

You NEED to give Fractals a chance before you dismiss dungeons altogether. Those have some of the most fun and original Dungeon fights I've experienced in a MMO, including the trinity based ones.

Playing now: Archeage, WoW, Landmark, GW2

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  dennis5

Novice Member

Joined: 2/16/13
Posts: 23

4/22/13 11:57:06 AM#223
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by dennis5

Op, i agree with you. That was one of the reasons I , like many of my friends, did not buy the game.

 

I found gw2 to be an RvR-wannabe daoc style gane but does not satisfy even the minimum goals. No trinity, no strong group setups. In general it's like "pew-pew" counterstrike game with some group additions and capabilities. No CC or speed for the zerg.

 

In PvE, afaik you don't even need groups, just go single player mode, follow the storyline, quests and voila you're 80. Then it comes to dynamic events farming at 80 for karma and some exotic gear (guess what, you don't need grps there either) just stick with the zerg currently doing the events.

Also, leveling starts to become uninteresting after a while, since at lvl5-6 you already have the weapon/abilities you will be using up to 80 (that's if you're going for that particular weapon combo).

 

After a while it's natural that this game will start to feel boring, I wonder why it took you 6 months to realize these aspects. 

Let me list the suspicious points...

- Judges the game, pretending knowing how it works, yet says that he never bought yet, and therefore never played it.

- Uses "many of his friends" as reference to attempt to belittle the game's success. Just like many of someone's friends voted Romney, so it's impossible Obama won the elections.

- A "one post wonder" forum account... and the first post is bashing GW2, a game he admits he never bought.

If that doesn't smell funny, then the sewers of New York smell like roses.

Erm why do you feel the need to defend "your game" by judging my points? Don't you have something else to add to counter my argument? My account here or my post history has nothing to do with my criteria or opinion. I may have been watching this site longer than you, even if my account is fresh, yet you don't know for sure.

Also let me clarify this. I said i did not buy the game. That is when everyone jumped into it at the start. I have it now so my judging does have a point (for me at least).

 

I used "many of my friends" because well that's the circle i've been playing with. No, they didn't want to lose time with guild wars 2 and i don't blame them. Some started playing and abandoned it. It's a very casual game,  it's not an innovation or something special. Do you want me to list every friend's name? 

So, for the above as well, counter my points with some arguments. 

-Kthx for your 0/10 post however..

  Jean-Luc_Picard

Elite Member

Joined: 1/10/13
Posts: 2665

There... are... four... lights!

4/22/13 12:06:27 PM#224
Originally posted by dennis5
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by dennis5

Op, i agree with you. That was one of the reasons I , like many of my friends, did not buy the game.

 

I found gw2 to be an RvR-wannabe daoc style gane but does not satisfy even the minimum goals. No trinity, no strong group setups. In general it's like "pew-pew" counterstrike game with some group additions and capabilities. No CC or speed for the zerg.

 

In PvE, afaik you don't even need groups, just go single player mode, follow the storyline, quests and voila you're 80. Then it comes to dynamic events farming at 80 for karma and some exotic gear (guess what, you don't need grps there either) just stick with the zerg currently doing the events.

Also, leveling starts to become uninteresting after a while, since at lvl5-6 you already have the weapon/abilities you will be using up to 80 (that's if you're going for that particular weapon combo).

 

After a while it's natural that this game will start to feel boring, I wonder why it took you 6 months to realize these aspects. 

Let me list the suspicious points...

- Judges the game, pretending knowing how it works, yet says that he never bought yet, and therefore never played it.

- Uses "many of his friends" as reference to attempt to belittle the game's success. Just like many of someone's friends voted Romney, so it's impossible Obama won the elections.

- A "one post wonder" forum account... and the first post is bashing GW2, a game he admits he never bought.

If that doesn't smell funny, then the sewers of New York smell like roses.

Erm why do you feel the need to defend "your game" by judging my points? Don't you have something else to add to counter my argument? My account here or my post history has nothing to do with my criteria or opinion. I may have been watching this site longer than you, even if my account is fresh, yet you don't know for sure.

Also let me clarify this. I said i did not buy the game. That is when everyone jumped into it at the start. I have it now so my judging does have a point (for me at least).

 

I used "many of my friends" because well that's the circle i've been playing with. No, they didn't want to lose time with guild wars 2 and i don't blame them. Some started playing and abandoned it. It's a very casual game,  it's not an innovation or something special. Do you want me to list every friend's name? 

So, for the above as well, counter my points with some arguments. 

-Kthx for your 0/10 post however..

There is no way you know any of things you are discussing in your post if you haven't bought the game. So either you have, or not. If you blow the "I never played this, yet I know everything about it" trumpet, like you did in your previous post, then you will have to expect me to call shenanigans on it.

It's not up to me to prove anything. You come here, say "I've never bought the game", and then post a sort of "review" of it, including about level 80 content. Sounds to me like someone either using an alt account to bash the game, or simply repeating stuff he read in other negative people's posts without even knowing the game, or most likely both.

Sorry if I emit a serious doubt about your true intention with that first post of yours. Imagine a guy, someone you've never seen before, coming into your favorite restaurant while you sit there eating, and saying "I've never eaten here, but I know the food is crap". Wouldn't you be, at least, suspicious? Well, I am.

Playing now: Archeage, WoW, Landmark, GW2

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  dennis5

Novice Member

Joined: 2/16/13
Posts: 23

4/22/13 12:21:58 PM#225
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by dennis5
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by dennis5

Op, i agree with you. That was one of the reasons I , like many of my friends, did not buy the game.

 

I found gw2 to be an RvR-wannabe daoc style gane but does not satisfy even the minimum goals. No trinity, no strong group setups. In general it's like "pew-pew" counterstrike game with some group additions and capabilities. No CC or speed for the zerg.

 

In PvE, afaik you don't even need groups, just go single player mode, follow the storyline, quests and voila you're 80. Then it comes to dynamic events farming at 80 for karma and some exotic gear (guess what, you don't need grps there either) just stick with the zerg currently doing the events.

Also, leveling starts to become uninteresting after a while, since at lvl5-6 you already have the weapon/abilities you will be using up to 80 (that's if you're going for that particular weapon combo).

 

After a while it's natural that this game will start to feel boring, I wonder why it took you 6 months to realize these aspects. 

Let me list the suspicious points...

- Judges the game, pretending knowing how it works, yet says that he never bought yet, and therefore never played it.

- Uses "many of his friends" as reference to attempt to belittle the game's success. Just like many of someone's friends voted Romney, so it's impossible Obama won the elections.

- A "one post wonder" forum account... and the first post is bashing GW2, a game he admits he never bought.

If that doesn't smell funny, then the sewers of New York smell like roses.

Erm why do you feel the need to defend "your game" by judging my points? Don't you have something else to add to counter my argument? My account here or my post history has nothing to do with my criteria or opinion. I may have been watching this site longer than you, even if my account is fresh, yet you don't know for sure.

Also let me clarify this. I said i did not buy the game. That is when everyone jumped into it at the start. I have it now so my judging does have a point (for me at least).

 

I used "many of my friends" because well that's the circle i've been playing with. No, they didn't want to lose time with guild wars 2 and i don't blame them. Some started playing and abandoned it. It's a very casual game,  it's not an innovation or something special. Do you want me to list every friend's name? 

So, for the above as well, counter my points with some arguments. 

-Kthx for your 0/10 post however..

There is no way you know any of things you are discussing in your post if you haven't bought the game. So either you have, or not. If you blow the "I never played this, yet I know everything about it" trumpet, like you did in your previous post, then you will have to expect me to call shenanigans on it.

It's not up to me to prove anything. You come here, say "I've never bought the game", and then post a sort of "review" of it, including about level 80 content. Sounds to me like someone either using an alt account to bash the game, or simply repeating stuff he read in other negative people's posts without even knowing the game, or most likely both.

Sorry if I emit a serious doubt about your true intention with that first post of yours. Imagine a guy, someone you've never seen before, coming into your favorite restaurant while you sit there eating, and saying "I've never eaten here, but I know the food is crap". Wouldn't you be, at least, suspicious? Well, I am.

No offense taken well at least now that you elaborated. 

But in your specific example if someone would come to your favourite restaurant and said all those things, would you just believe him or state some facts that in your opinion support your "restaurant" ? I would definately do the latter.

Anyway, i'm not saying you need to prove anything but you can certainly correct me on the specific spots I mentioned and you believe i'm wrong.  That is what forums are all about after all.

  StarAce51

Novice Member

Joined: 3/18/13
Posts: 1

4/22/13 12:22:35 PM#226

I have several thoughts about GW2, started a few months after it was released and now have 5 level 80 characters.  I have also hit the burnout condition you are experiencing, so don't play it near as much as I used too, but still play it.  The reason I continue is because of the Goals I have set for myself etc: completing the world exploration, finishing story mode, making legendary weapons etc.

Having played any multiplayer game available since I was able to afford a computer I have seen many.  I am now 62 years old if you can believe it....I can't, still believe I am 21 as far as games go.  Anyway, I have thought over the years, what really makes a game enjoyable, what keeps your intrest.   I believe GW2 has part of the answer in that it has many worlds to play in with different environments.  But I also think it falls short in many areas, thus loss of players.

If we could convince developers of a game, that would take the best of each of the games over the years and combine them into one we would have a winner and so would they.  Each of you has something you like in particular about a game.  If we listed them, we would have something.  For instance, if you played Dark Age of Camelot, the grouping for rvr, taking keeps etc: was just excellent.   If you played Asheron's Call, the formulas for spells was incredible. lots of different ones for characters, and race.  You discovered them by mixing items via trial and error.  World of Warcraft had flying mounts etc:

Some of the dissappointing things about GW2 and others are things like not being able to craft the most powerful items.  Usually, powerful items are seldom found or purchased.  What good does spending time on crafting items when someone can just go to a vendor and get it free, this destroys crafting.   Crafting needs to be special for every crafter, unique to that group and more powerful, but difficult to get, to keep people crafting.  In my opinion, GW2 has lousy crafting, nothing more powerful then what you can buy, or nothing really unique.   If they do, it is beyound the amount of time anyone will spend to get it.  It should be hard to get and is, but it really isn't that special.  If you look at what it takes for a legendary weapon, the price is rediculas unless you want to spend several hundred dollars.  So, what about the "free to play" game?  I agree it should be hard to get a special weapon, but not impossible without breaking the bank. 

Charging for the game would be better then charging for the componants of a worthless weapon that everyone has, give some uniqueness and power please!  You need something that will make people to hang around for. 

Another thing people like, I have found, is housing.  Not sure why, but it another added item to keep intrest. 

Secret, random doors, portals etc: are also great.   These need randomness so that some don't tell their friends.  If you ever played the game "Descent", it had many secret doors till someone came bye, you could jump out in a surprise attack.  Thrilling for all.  Additionally it had special weapons that would turn a corner, or attract to you if you were to close.   These are fun things, I would be intrested in hearing about some of you favorite items.  Maybe they could be integrated into GW2 or GW3.

All in All GW2 has made a great step in right direction, but it needs so much more!

 

 

  elocke

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Joined: 6/15/04
Posts: 4080

4/22/13 2:35:07 PM#227
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by elocke

You may think you aren't being insulting, but it's coming across that way.  The error is in assuming that I'm not "getting it" when playing GW2.  That couldn't be further from the truth.  I can play it just fine, I just don't like the group play enough to play it any more.

FFXI was my first true taste of that rhythm in a party and playing as a team was a must and felt very satisfying to accomplish.  Taking that away and making me a lone wolf with heals, tanking, dodging and dps all in one character while removing the rhythm of combat just makes combat all the more chaotic and meaningless, to me.

  I adapt just fine, I just don't like having to when the trinity gameplay wasn't broken and works wonders in a game where you play with other people to accomplish goals.

The last sentence of your post actually proves that I am right. You refused to adapt, you don't want to for whatever reason, and you prefer to stick to the model which was cloned ad nauseum these last 8 years.

The second paragraph shows your lack of knowledge about GW2. You can't be an efficient "lone wolf with heals, tanking, dodging and dps all in one", in GW2. If you try to make a jack of all trades, you will end having a very bad character. Just like in any other MMORPG, you have to specialize correctly and get the gear with the right stats in order to perform optimally.

You add some drama and "righteous indignation" to try to masquerade it, but the fundamental meaning of your post shows that yes, indeed, you refuse to adapt to a new mechanic and prefer to stick to the old and overused one. Thankfully, you have a ton of games to play thanks to that, while we people who enjoy something new and different have very little choice if we want an AAA quality MMORPG. Have fun in Pandaland and with the trinity, I know for sure we will have fun here in GW2 land without that trinity.

Signed: someone who was main raid tank during the Vanilla WoW times, and tanked all the way to Cataclysm before he stopped raiding, and had fun all the way from 2004 to 2011 and still plays WoW casually with RL friends.

Playing a Guardian in GW2 allows you to heal, tank and dps no matter your build.  How is that not a lone wolf class?  That's just one example, the other classes have ways to soak up damage heal and dps as well.  Lack of knowledge, ROFL!  80 mesmer with full exotics, 100% world completion, and personal story done as well as 400 in cooking.   What more knowledge do I need to realize I don't like the group mechanics. 

That's not an unwillingness to adapt, as I already did so just to get to 80 and accomplish certain goals, it just shows I'm not a blind fanboy getting all pissed off because others who don't like my game can't possibly be smart enough or imaginative enough to play it so that must be the problem.  Funny how "righteous indignation" is used when I'm not the one coming off as self righteous about this game.

That being said, I don't hate GW2 and I'm sure I'll return to it in the future, but I'm not playing it for the grouping mechanics, that's for sure.  Anyway, enough being rude and getting pissed off because I like Trinity style play and you don't, it's annoying and boring to read about.  Peace.

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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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4/22/13 3:10:30 PM#228
Originally posted by elocke

Playing a Guardian in GW2 allows you to heal, tank and dps no matter your build.  How is that not a lone wolf class?

If your experience is as "deep" as you claim, you know this is utter nonsense. If you're a DPS specced guardian, and try to play as a healing one without changing spec and gear, you're going to do a very poor job. Same thing is true for any other role combo, and any other class.

You definitely didn't understand how this game works, even if you claim so. And now, you try to blame others (and the game itself) for your lack of understanding. Nice try, doesn't work with me though, or with anyone who really played this game and understood its mechanics.

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4/22/13 5:10:04 PM#229
Originally posted by elocke

Playing a Guardian in GW2 allows you to heal, tank and dps no matter your build. 

Nonsense.

With this you lose ALL credibility. You actually dont know the basics. Its no surprise you "couldnt catch the rhytm".

  elocke

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4/22/13 6:35:55 PM#230
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by elocke

Playing a Guardian in GW2 allows you to heal, tank and dps no matter your build.  How is that not a lone wolf class?

If your experience is as "deep" as you claim, you know this is utter nonsense. If you're a DPS specced guardian, and try to play as a healing one without changing spec and gear, you're going to do a very poor job. Same thing is true for any other role combo, and any other class.

You definitely didn't understand how this game works, even if you claim so. And now, you try to blame others (and the game itself) for your lack of understanding. Nice try, doesn't work with me though, or with anyone who really played this game and understood its mechanics.

So, I can't use a heal ability and then a shield ability on my allies and then a 2 handed sword for dps all in one fight?  Because that's what I mean when I say I can do all of those things.

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4/22/13 7:01:34 PM#231
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by elocke

Playing a Guardian in GW2 allows you to heal, tank and dps no matter your build.  How is that not a lone wolf class?

If your experience is as "deep" as you claim, you know this is utter nonsense. If you're a DPS specced guardian, and try to play as a healing one without changing spec and gear, you're going to do a very poor job. Same thing is true for any other role combo, and any other class.

You definitely didn't understand how this game works, even if you claim so. And now, you try to blame others (and the game itself) for your lack of understanding. Nice try, doesn't work with me though, or with anyone who really played this game and understood its mechanics.

So, I can't use a heal ability and then a shield ability on my allies and then a 2 handed sword for dps all in one fight?  Because that's what I mean when I say I can do all of those things.

So being able to use a weak heal skill, then put up a weak shield ability for your allies, the do some two handed sword damage makes you a well rounded player? A lone wolf class, able to handle everything?    I think the point that you seem to have missed about GW2, is that  a person can be terrible at doing their non-class-defined roles too. 

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4/22/13 7:16:48 PM#232
just another trinity thread... ~yawns~ havent been here in awhile hoped these died off oh well next... I dont belonggg.... lol heh..
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4/22/13 7:21:59 PM#233
I would like everyone to know that after playing Meridian 59 for 16 years and having a great deal of fun in every single aspect of the game, I just had to quit because it turns out...there are actually no cheese wheels in game. Totally ruined it for me, game is crap now, I just cant seem to log in anymore.
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4/22/13 9:34:21 PM#234
Originally posted by JasonJ
I would like everyone to know that after playing Meridian 59 for 16 years and having a great deal of fun in every single aspect of the game, I just had to quit because it turns out...there are actually no cheese wheels in game. Totally ruined it for me, game is crap now, I just cant seem to log in anymore.

I know where you are coming from. I really wanted to try Meridian 59 and see what it's all about, but I clearly know everything about the title so I actually "hit the wall" before ever making a character. Now don't get me wrong, Meridian 59 was a beautiful game for it's time, but I couldn't stand the way it looked. Too neo-geriatric or something.  And some of the stuff that you had to do in the game, wasn't the same as stuff that I like to do, so nobody liked the game.  It's ok though, because I really want to give the game props, even though it epic failed me, and everyone I know, even the ones that tried it.

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4/23/13 2:25:56 AM#235

Hello All,

 

Just registered to reply in this thread. Honestly I have no idea why you want hard defined roles in gw2? Arent there enough MMOs out there whith holy trinity why do you want 1 more? Saying that there are no defined roles in gw2 is wrong too, while not hard defined like in rift,wow,swtor etc etc, certain classes are incredibly strong in certain dungeons/fractals (im talking about dungeons/fractals here), while in events its a zerg fest. A guardian can act as an anchor for the grp using his/her cds/mitigations/absorbs so other classes have more window to dps.

Imo the problem in gw2 is not the lacy of trinity, but the encounter designs, fractals is already a step in the right direction also lupicus (without the lolreflectionskipp2) is also a great encounter with multiple phases and you have to know what to do.  Compare Ragnaros from Vanilla WoW to Ragnaros in Cata the difference is massive nad imo its the same problem with gw2 lack of encounter design without holy trinity.

 

 

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4/23/13 2:39:49 AM#236
Originally posted by RavenBlaze

Hello All,

 

Just registered to reply in this thread. Honestly I have no idea why you want hard defined roles in gw2? Arent there enough MMOs out there whith holy trinity why do you want 1 more? Saying that there are no defined roles in gw2 is wrong too, while not hard defined like in rift,wow,swtor etc etc, certain classes are incredibly strong in certain dungeons/fractals (im talking about dungeons/fractals here), while in events its a zerg fest. A guardian can act as an anchor for the grp using his/her cds/mitigations/absorbs so other classes have more window to dps.

Imo the problem in gw2 is not the lacy of trinity, but the encounter designs, fractals is already a step in the right direction also lupicus (without the lolreflectionskipp2) is also a great encounter with multiple phases and you have to know what to do.  Compare Ragnaros from Vanilla WoW to Ragnaros in Cata the difference is massive nad imo its the same problem with gw2 lack of encounter design without holy trinity.

 

 

Dont worry, just some old timers that dont want to adapt to something new, its easier to proclaim it "mess" and "non functional" even if it works nicely for hundreds of thousands of players. The gist is, theres a gazzillion of trinity games out there, but of course its boring, they expect something new of trinity but at same time cannot grasp that trinity in itself is limiting factor and all they can get are reskinned encounters.

As far as GW2 goes, yes, its very easy, it can be made immensly harder (really harder not just bigger stats and huge helth pools), but, seeing how lot of people struggle with what is already ingame cant really tell if its needed or warranted, hell, just look at this thread.

Guess expansion could hold some really challenging stuff, as they see "grace period" for breaking conditioning lot of people received from EQ/WoW/FF pass.

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4/23/13 2:48:25 AM#237
Yeah, after witnessing hundreds of grenth fails, even after explaining what to do multiple fights before/during.after the fight, I lost hope in the community, hell some people rage at grenth event because its too hard according to them, while ignoring the rest of world bosses which are basically loot pinatas. That said, I'm not a skilled player far from it but I do enjoy some challenging encounters.
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4/23/13 2:48:26 AM#238
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by elocke

Playing a Guardian in GW2 allows you to heal, tank and dps no matter your build.  How is that not a lone wolf class?

If your experience is as "deep" as you claim, you know this is utter nonsense. If you're a DPS specced guardian, and try to play as a healing one without changing spec and gear, you're going to do a very poor job. Same thing is true for any other role combo, and any other class.

You definitely didn't understand how this game works, even if you claim so. And now, you try to blame others (and the game itself) for your lack of understanding. Nice try, doesn't work with me though, or with anyone who really played this game and understood its mechanics.

So, I can't use a heal ability and then a shield ability on my allies and then a 2 handed sword for dps all in one fight?  Because that's what I mean when I say I can do all of those things.

So can healer type class in healer spec in any game i played.

Your point?

You want to know the difference between my healway and DPS guaridan:

1. different weapons

2. completely different stated gear set

3. completely different utilities

4. completely different build

4. different elite skill

5. completely different virtue usage

6. completely different style of play (dodge usage, food, positioning, timing....)

Of course, thats when you want to actually be of use to your group, and then you can do it your way and suck and "have no rhytm"

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4/23/13 2:59:20 AM#239
Wow, long thread! You can't refute someones opinnion as it is entirely theres but there is a bit of misrepresentation of the guardian in gw2 going on here. Firstly what good is healing others if your lone wolfing it? If your going to play guardian sollo you should probably be playing a warrior instead. Secondly the guards dps is pretty trivial, the guard is great for its survivabillity but this comes from altruistic healing which means when you apply a boon to allies you heal yourself for a portion of your hp. This only works if your rolling with allies to apply boons too. 
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4/23/13 6:19:33 AM#240
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by elocke

Playing a Guardian in GW2 allows you to heal, tank and dps no matter your build.  How is that not a lone wolf class?

If your experience is as "deep" as you claim, you know this is utter nonsense. If you're a DPS specced guardian, and try to play as a healing one without changing spec and gear, you're going to do a very poor job. Same thing is true for any other role combo, and any other class.

You definitely didn't understand how this game works, even if you claim so. And now, you try to blame others (and the game itself) for your lack of understanding. Nice try, doesn't work with me though, or with anyone who really played this game and understood its mechanics.

So, I can't use a heal ability and then a shield ability on my allies and then a 2 handed sword for dps all in one fight?  Because that's what I mean when I say I can do all of those things.

Tell me, in World of Warcraft (for instance), how efficient is a Paladin healer specced for DPS and in full DPS gear? Well, it's exactly the same in GW2. If you are geared for DPS, you will suck at healing.

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