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  lizardbones

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4/16/13 12:01:49 PM#21

They said they would expand upon the space game play. So it's not going to replace the current space missions. I would expect something similar to the current space missions, but maybe "more". The poster mentioning pvp is probably closest to the truth. Dog fighter style combat in a limited space zone. I would not expect any sort of open world environment.

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  birdycephon

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4/16/13 12:29:37 PM#22
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  gervaise1

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4/16/13 1:25:58 PM#23
Originally posted by tiefighter25
Originally posted by FromHell

 Is EA broke so they can only come up with a lame rail shooter for the biggest Sci fi IP in the world?

Yes and no. The question isn't how broke EA is, it's how much they make quarter to quarter. They missed their last guidance target and the CEO was forced to resign.  An indication of EA's current financial mindset is that it just laid off 200 people at their Montreal studio.

Agree.

 

And the Montreal lay-offs being in addition to last months Montreal lay-offs. They are also closing their San Paulo studio and have announced the closure of various Facebook games including Sims Online - down to 6M F2P accounts from 10M. So times are tough and having 2M F2P accounts is no guarantee of future funding.

How well Makeb has done financially will be crucial - as the devs said. Makeb's sales will be used to drive the projected revenue figures for any new DLC.

What will happen - in simple terms - is that each studio/division will compile a list of its future projects, what they expect each project to costs, what they expect the projects to earn and what the risks are. This will probably be a rolling activity with quarterly updates There will be reviews at multiple levels and ultimately EA corporate will sign off on the plans. As a result a new Sims xpac and Battlefield 3 map pack may be given the OK but a future SSSP may be turned down.

And if it is turned down it won't be because EA is broke but because they only have a limited amount of money and a wide range of competing projects.  And in this process how well Makeb has done will be pivotal.

 

  simplius

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4/16/13 6:04:51 PM#24

did any1 see a makeb sales number?

im guessing at 300-400k, and i dont even think that would cover the price of makeb

 

  gervaise1

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4/17/13 5:41:21 AM#25
Originally posted by simplius

did any1 see a makeb sales number?

im guessing at 300-400k, and i dont even think that would cover the price of makeb

 

If they had been "earth shatteringly good" I am sure we would have been told.

The expansion is still on sale of course and there could be a "long tail" but the majority of sales are probably now in.

How many: all subscribers seems a reasonable assumption + 5% of active F2P accounts (going on Zynga's stats). So your guess at 300-400k doesn't seem unreasonable if SWTOR still has 250k subscribers.

In the absence of a statement the planned 8 week future updates will probably provide the best clue - maybe not the next one as that was probably already in work before Makeb launched - but the one after that.

 

  simplius

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4/17/13 10:52:01 AM#26

the latest numbers was 2 mio new accounts, and 4 mio new characters since F2P

F2Pers get 2 character slots right?

so those numbers do make sense,,how much money they put back in the game, is a different story

 

  gervaise1

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4/17/13 12:36:48 PM#27
Originally posted by simplius

the latest numbers was 2 mio new accounts, and 4 mio new characters since F2P

F2Pers get 2 character slots right?

so those numbers do make sense,,how much money they put back in the game, is a different story

 

Agree. And how much money they have put back in is the key.

c.5% is the percentage of customers Zynga have been reporting as being responsible for the "majority" of their income - with the other 95% spending very little or nothing.

The 2M F2P sign-ups in 4 months though was probably a disappointment. SWTOR sold more full priced boxes/downloads than that. And compared to other F2P games it is a small number.

To put it into perspective the - soon to be closed - Sims Online's DAU (Daily Active Users) has fallen from 10M to 6M; and presumably it is being closed because those 6M are not spending enough in the cash shop. SWTOR's probably has higher costs that the Sims Online as well.

  simplius

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4/17/13 6:57:18 PM#28

yea 2 mio F2Pers in 4 months aint that impressive

they SOLD more games in the first 3 months, those that really wanted to play

was willing to throw over the cash

and most of the same crowd decided to write it as a loss, and drop out

  ignore_me

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4/17/13 7:44:51 PM#29
Originally posted by Karteli

Jeff Hickman indicated (or rather hinted) that the SSSP would be some sort of expansion.  Possibly a good move, since so many people want it and are willing to pay anything to get it, myself included.

 

If it is done correctly it would bring back so many former players who just gave up playing WoW in space, etc..

 

But that's a big IF, and I sort of feel like it's going to be a lobby type game, PVP match, PVE co-op assault, complete with boundaries.  I have a hunch that my expectations exceed what I'll end up getting.

 

 

 

No, I think that ship has sailed. In the first 7 months or so yeah, but now this game is starting to look bad graphically, and things like ability lag are apparently back. BW has an amazing ability to under-deliver.

Even though you might be thinking, "well surely if they have been working on it this long then it will be good."

but that's not the way it works at BW. There's a big catalog of crap ups that they took some time to deliver.

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  tiefighter25

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4/18/13 4:43:54 AM#30
Originally posted by simplius

yea 2 mio F2Pers in 4 months aint that impressive

they SOLD more games in the first 3 months, those that really wanted to play

was willing to throw over the cash

and most of the same crowd decided to write it as a loss, and drop out

Considering one of the original perks of being a subscriber was prefed log in access was the servers were full, I'd say Bioware was expecting more FTP players then they got.

  tiefighter25

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4/18/13 4:47:35 AM#31

This thread was supposed to be about the always mentioned but never discussed carrot on a stick SSSP.

How will it look?

Exactly the same, but with 2 people playing simulataneously.

Then again, it may look like this. http://www.swtor.com/info/media/screens/space-combat

Coming soon.

  bugmeno

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4/18/13 7:08:10 AM#32
Originally posted by tiefighter25

This thread was supposed to be about the always mentioned but never discussed carrot on a stick SSSP.

How will it look?

Exactly the same, but with 2 people playing simulataneously.

Then again, it may look like this. http://www.swtor.com/info/media/screens/space-combat

Coming soon.

the competition will be Star Citizen, so they better get their act together and deliver something with substance, more than a pew-pew space warzone to play with a buddy

  simplius

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4/22/13 7:53:54 AM#33
Originally posted by bugmeno
Originally posted by tiefighter25

This thread was supposed to be about the always mentioned but never discussed carrot on a stick SSSP.

How will it look?

Exactly the same, but with 2 people playing simulataneously.

Then again, it may look like this. http://www.swtor.com/info/media/screens/space-combat

Coming soon.

the competition will be Star Citizen, so they better get their act together and deliver something with substance, more than a pew-pew space warzone to play with a buddy

from what ive heard, star citizen will rely heavily on PVP

expect it to be an upgraded version of black prophecy

and how well did black prophecy do?

i cancelled my preorder for star citizen, im waiting at least 3 months after launch before taking a decision

PS i think their biggest competitors will be wildstar,EVE and STO

 

 

  DocBrody

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4/25/13 5:37:16 PM#34

Hello,

can anyone be so kind and tell me what is known about the space expansion already?

I would be much more interested in playing this if there would be a universe to explore, with customizable ships, trading, mining and the like. A real Star Wars space sim!

Cheers,

Doc B

 

  CatAtomic99

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5/04/13 10:52:00 AM#35
This is Bioware we're talking about, so I assume they'll do something ridiculously restrictive that will keep people interested for about 20 minutes. And it'll probably be story-based (dumbest thing ever to do in an MMORPG, imho) so that people play through it once and never want to see it again.
  Sevenstar61

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5/04/13 12:24:05 PM#36
Originally posted by DocBrody

Hello,

can anyone be so kind and tell me what is known about the space expansion already?

I would be much more interested in playing this if there would be a universe to explore, with customizable ships, trading, mining and the like. A real Star Wars space sim!

Cheers,

Doc B

 

Practically we do not know anything, the only thing I've heard was that  Jeff Hickman played a demo of it and that it was fun (Jeff's comment). No details were provided, just that it is far from release.


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  Pelaaja

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5/07/13 6:44:39 AM#37

The Secret Space Project:

  RavingRabbid

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5/07/13 6:57:09 AM#38
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by DocBrody

Hello,

can anyone be so kind and tell me what is known about the space expansion already?

I would be much more interested in playing this if there would be a universe to explore, with customizable ships, trading, mining and the like. A real Star Wars space sim!

Cheers,

Doc B

 

Practically we do not know anything, the only thing I've heard was that  Jeff Hickman played a demo of it and that it was fun (Jeff's comment). No details were provided, just that it is far from release.

I wouldnt release any info about it due to the inability of gamers to give any kind of  TRUE contructive feedback...especially on this site where every SWTOR thread degenerates into EA bioware sucks, Swtor isnt an MMO, I miss SWG etc etc

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  Stromm

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5/07/13 7:04:08 AM#39
Originally posted by FromHell

how will it be and when will it come out?  Will it come out before Star Citizen and Elite (smart move) or not?

Will it be more like a lobby game with "warzones" to queue up (like Moonbreaker or Star Conflict) to shoot some mobs and players or a fully fledged space sim like JTL with lots of systems to explore, mine and trade?

 

Before anyone says it won´t happen > it already got confirmed, so please only speculate on how it will actually look like

 

 

 

Maybe they could do a reverse CCP Dust-5waddeva?

Make a rip off version of EVE (like they ripped off WoW) as a separate game that shares the same "Universe"!

Then Star Ship captains could post daily Makeb missions for "ground troops" to undertake!

Imagine mining the Asteroid fields in your little smuggler ship so you can build a Correlian Frigate!?

Piloting an X-Wing in formation as you take on an Imperial Star Destroyer group?

Completing the Kessel Run in under 5 parsecs!?

  Muke

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5/07/13 7:05:43 AM#40
Originally posted by Damedius
Only what the engine can handle. So I would say closer to lobby or zoned based space.

no free roaming in space, I would say 1 space sector where you can fly within the boundaries and maybe some pvp with it.

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