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General Discussion  » [Poll] - WildStar - Are you up for 40m raids?

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  Djildjamesh

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Joined: 12/09/11
Posts: 407

 
OP  4/10/13 6:27:29 AM#1

Hey there,

I'm seeing both negative posts and positive posts about the 40m raiding in Wildstar.

Of those negative posts many clain that 40m will prob. never 'take off' and that the interest in it will (likely) be low.

 

This got me wondering how many people are interested in 40m raids on MMORPG.com

So here it is.  The poll to see where we stand as a community about raiding.

 

Edit:

with having nearly 300 votes .... and 48% being up for 40man raids i guess we can come to the conclusion that at least on MMORPG.com there is quiet abit of interest in the 40man scene :)

thanks for all the feedback and interesting reads so far :)

Are you up for 40m raids?

Yes - I'm interested
Maybe - I'm interested in it
Unsure - Cautiously obtimistic
No - because of time commitment
No - 40 man raids suck donkey balls
No - coz im trolling
I don't raid in MMO's
other
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  Ice-Queen

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4/10/13 6:29:34 AM#2
No thanks, wasn't fun when I had to do it in WoW.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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  emperorwings

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4/10/13 6:31:50 AM#3
I like soft raiding, casual raiding where you get automaticly grouped with the people around you or go solo and every kill everyone does everyone gets credit for. But of course it won't be like that.

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  Lord.Bachus

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4/10/13 6:35:44 AM#4

I want raids that addapt difficulty based on the numbers of players... Have 40 men, raid with 40, have only 12 raid with 12, have 98, raid with 98...  Scaling difficulty is the future...

 

how to differentiate, well offer a raid in 5 tastes like easy, medium , hard, extreme hard and nightmare... 

 

Limmiting content based on player numbers is old time...

 

 

On top of that bring back open world bosses and raids like we remember from EQ, the more differentation in endgame, the better for everyone.

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  Eir_S

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4/10/13 6:54:58 AM#5
Not at all.
  Hatefull

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4/10/13 7:03:49 AM#6
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

I want raids that addapt difficulty based on the numbers of players... Have 40 men, raid with 40, have only 12 raid with 12, have 98, raid with 98...  Scaling difficulty is the future...

 

how to differentiate, well offer a raid in 5 tastes like easy, medium , hard, extreme hard and nightmare... 

 

Limmiting content based on player numbers is old time...

 

 

On top of that bring back open world bosses and raids like we remember from EQ, the more differentation in endgame, the better for everyone.

I agree with this guy.  My career has me working weird hours, I can't always get, or stand around and wait for 40 people to get their collective "shit" together.  It would be nice to be able to throw as many players as I can in a group, grab our beatin sticks and head out.  I understand this wasn't done in WoW so it can't be cloned and re-done but maybe an adventruous and forward thinking company can take this idea and run with it.

Would be nice.

 

@ Bachus good post dude.

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  steelheartx

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Joined: 12/08/06
Posts: 410

4/10/13 8:22:30 AM#7

O hell yeah!

 

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  Beoelf21

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Joined: 6/04/10
Posts: 91

4/10/13 8:27:29 AM#8
40m raid is a short raid in my book.

  danwest58

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Joined: 5/14/09
Posts: 597

4/10/13 8:30:24 AM#9
for every 1 person that will vote they want it here there will be a much larger group of people who never post or answer polls on forums that will not want 40 man raids.  Anyone who thinks 40 man raids will work is fooling themselves, Rift raiding has been on the downward when I left after several months of SL.  Only 8% of all WoW raiding guilds are 25 man raids, the rest of the guilds are 10 man raids.  Tera few people did 20 man raiding.  There is a pattern away from the larger raids as much as people want to say there is not, there is one alls one needs to do is look.  Hell Even EQ2 and LOTRO see more 12 man raids than larger raids.  You can even look at SWTOR there are more 8 man raids than 16 man. 
  danwest58

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4/10/13 8:32:21 AM#10
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

I want raids that addapt difficulty based on the numbers of players... Have 40 men, raid with 40, have only 12 raid with 12, have 98, raid with 98...  Scaling difficulty is the future...

 

how to differentiate, well offer a raid in 5 tastes like easy, medium , hard, extreme hard and nightmare... 

 

Limmiting content based on player numbers is old time...

 

 

On top of that bring back open world bosses and raids like we remember from EQ, the more differentation in endgame, the better for everyone.

I couldnt agree more.  I am finding after many years of raiding my friends who raid are a much smaller and smaller group.  I use to lead 40 man raids back in the day.  As many people that want to say its fun are normally the people who didnt lead the raid.  Its a nightmare more than its fun. 

  Dogblaster

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4/10/13 8:58:41 AM#11
Cant wait :-). p.s.: 40 man raids will work nicely, just because blizzard decided to become casual focused mmorpg doesnt mean every other mmorpg needs to do the same crap ... Ive played wow from first day of release and progress mc, bwl, naxx, bt, ssc was awesome and worked .. maybe not for casuals, small guilds, etc. But wildstar raids are only catering to hc players ... So.. in your face B-) you dont like it? Think wont work? Man you neee to understand there are milions players who likes things which you hate, wildstar is not heading for 10m subs, so they dont need those who hate wildstars core features ...
  User Deleted
4/10/13 9:00:58 AM#12
Originally posted by Tayah
No thanks, wasn't fun when I had to do it in WoW.

Thankfuly they've clearly stated that 40 man raids are "AN" eldergame element, and not "THE" game. It's not the only focus.

  User Deleted
4/10/13 9:01:01 AM#13
The more people there are, the less meaningful it feels to me.
  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 6405

4/10/13 9:07:05 AM#14

No, the time commitment, just don't have the time or desire for 40man anymore.

Was fun in EQ1 but I didn't find raids fun since, I just changed as a gamer.

  Hedeon

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Posts: 927

4/10/13 9:37:07 AM#15

when thinking of how much of a test it, at times, could be with 24 people in a EQ2 raid, I aint certain the negatives could outweight the excitement.

but ah well have never played in a raid with more than 24...usually have been with 18 or so though : P

  Eir_S

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4/10/13 9:42:08 AM#16
Originally posted by Roxtarr
Originally posted by Tayah
No thanks, wasn't fun when I had to do it in WoW.

Thankfuly they've clearly stated that 40 man raids are "AN" eldergame element, and not "THE" game. It's not the only focus.

Exactly, that's why I'm still interested in Wildstar.  If the endgame focus was raiding, particularly 40 man, I'd have tossed this one under a bus by now.  I like the sound of 10 man dungeons though.

  danwest58

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4/10/13 9:43:32 AM#17
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Cant wait :-). p.s.: 40 man raids will work nicely, just because blizzard decided to become casual focused mmorpg doesnt mean every other mmorpg needs to do the same crap ... Ive played wow from first day of release and progress mc, bwl, naxx, bt, ssc was awesome and worked .. maybe not for casuals, small guilds, etc. But wildstar raids are only catering to hc players ... So.. in your face B-) you dont like it? Think wont work? Man you neee to understand there are milions players who likes things which you hate, wildstar is not heading for 10m subs, so they dont need those who hate wildstars core features ...

Dogblaster,

Hardcore players were 1% of the WoW Population in Vanilla.  Less than that 1% of all the players ever raided and less than that ever seen Naxx 40 man.  Games with Large raids will not survive on a 1% of all MMO player base, during vanillia WoW that would be 50K people of the 5 million that played.  Look at rift right now with 20 man raids, I left in Feb and only a dozen guild per server were doing raids, and even of those many were having issues getting 20 man raids together.  Rift has about 300K to 500K subs.  If games with 500K people have issues doing 20 man raids how do you expect a game built for 40 man raids will do?  It will not happen.  Todays Average MMO player is no longer goes to be a major part of these large raids.  Look at Lotro and EQ2 they had to go towards 12 man raiding becuase 24 man raiding does not work well anymore.  How do you expect 40 man raiding to work?  Its not hate, its Logic that tells you that 40 man raiding will be problematic at best. 

  snapfusion

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Joined: 7/17/11
Posts: 976

4/10/13 10:33:49 AM#18
The casuals and the A.D.D. will win this poll hands down, me Ill raid for 2 hours np.  But Im also not scared to hang out with people in game and work out difficult problems.
  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1966

4/10/13 10:37:55 AM#19
No thanks.

  Yalexy

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 1045

4/10/13 11:24:16 AM#20

The more options the better.

The 5-player dungeons are nice for the small and tight knit groups. These are the ones I like running with my best buddies day in day out, while talking about the weather, etc.

10 or 20-player raids are good to for the casuals, and to learn the ropes of raiding, while the 40-player raids are made for those, who really play a MMO as their main-hobby, aka, the harcore-players.

I like those bigger raids, where people are forced to concentrate, be disciplined and prepared to get the task done.

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