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  Dahkoht

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4/09/13 10:48:13 PM#41

I have to admit I was a bit shocked to see the website looked quite that unorganized and , well , amateurish.

Not knocking the project , as I played DAOC quite a bit at launch (OP'd smite clerics were a joy) , and hoping this does well , but I assumed they would put a slight more bit of effort into their website.

(and a bit scary how any dare mention of anything bad about this yet to be started game gets early beta forums of Vanguard fanboism brought out , and I thought no crowd would ever approach the looney I saw on those forums with the zealout defenders)

  Marxis2727

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4/09/13 10:54:41 PM#42
Originally posted by Flex1

Amazing the high level of stupidity and ignorance present here.

 

It is simple.

 

You don't know anything about this guy or his past projects of Dark Age of Camelot. You visit the website to find more information, What is Camelot Unchained? What will it offer?

 

Upon exploring the website you don't find that information fast enough or don't find it at all so your interest disappeared and you closed the browser tab.

 

Good bye possible pledger.

 

With better organization of available information on that website they could have had 1 more person donating $15 or more.

 

How is it that hard to understand the OP here? You guys are defending sloppy design and celebrating the fact that this pledge was turned away.

Pretty much summed it up perfectly.  

 

The OP is concerned about any potential backers losing interest quickly after browsing the webpage which seems to be lacking proper presentation.  Thats it..... 

  GrayGhost79

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4/09/13 11:03:05 PM#43
Originally posted by Marxis2727
Originally posted by Flex1

Amazing the high level of stupidity and ignorance present here.

 

It is simple.

 

You don't know anything about this guy or his past projects of Dark Age of Camelot. You visit the website to find more information, What is Camelot Unchained? What will it offer?

 

Upon exploring the website you don't find that information fast enough or don't find it at all so your interest disappeared and you closed the browser tab.

 

Good bye possible pledger.

 

With better organization of available information on that website they could have had 1 more person donating $15 or more.

 

How is it that hard to understand the OP here? You guys are defending sloppy design and celebrating the fact that this pledge was turned away.

Pretty much summed it up perfectly.  

 

The OP is concerned about any potential backers losing interest quickly after browsing the webpage which seems to be lacking proper presentation.  Thats it..... 

The mentality currently is "Shut up and pledge, if it even LOOKS like you may say something negative you are the enemy and we will attack!" lol. 

  Dahkoht

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4/09/13 11:09:53 PM#44
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Marxis2727
Originally posted by Flex1

Amazing the high level of stupidity and ignorance present here.

 

It is simple.

 

You don't know anything about this guy or his past projects of Dark Age of Camelot. You visit the website to find more information, What is Camelot Unchained? What will it offer?

 

Upon exploring the website you don't find that information fast enough or don't find it at all so your interest disappeared and you closed the browser tab.

 

Good bye possible pledger.

 

With better organization of available information on that website they could have had 1 more person donating $15 or more.

 

How is it that hard to understand the OP here? You guys are defending sloppy design and celebrating the fact that this pledge was turned away.

Pretty much summed it up perfectly.  

 

The OP is concerned about any potential backers losing interest quickly after browsing the webpage which seems to be lacking proper presentation.  Thats it..... 

The mentality currently is "Shut up and pledge, if it even LOOKS like you may say something negative you are the enemy and we will attack!" lol. 

Sadly it seems the case , and blind fanaticism always turns out to make a good game.

  Raventree

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4/09/13 11:17:48 PM#45
I am excited that the game hasn't even been funded yet and the PVP has already started!  WOOHOO!

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  deadpool_25

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Joined: 4/02/13
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4/09/13 11:58:40 PM#46

I'm excited about what this game could be, so I pledged. And at a fairly high level. But I've been excited since I started hearing about it and was chomping at the bit to get in on the ground floor.

 

I also recognize that there are people out there who will be much more cautious than me, who need a bit of substance instead of just hope and promise--I'm an optimist. Other's are more pessimistic/skeptical and that's absolutely fine. If we can get it funded with just us optimists, then there's not much harm done. However, it would likely be much better to show the skeptics that there is value in this project.

 

So I can see the issues with the website. I think the OP was a bit harsher than necessary, but that's how some people operate I suppose. Still, the point--that the website is weak--is valid IMO. I don't go there looking for info at all. I gave up on that early on. I get most of my info from the interviews and posts on various websites and I have to admit it's annoyingly tough to keep up on all of it. It would be great to have the info collected and well organized in one place, and the logical place for that is on their website.

 

I understand that the game isn't in development yet. It's just in the idea stages. But the website could definitely be much more useful as an advertisement for potential backers. I also understand that would be very tough to do though. Even the name of the game is supposedly likely to change. Even one of the realms (Arthurians) is subject to change.

 

In the end, I don't know that a website as well fleshed out as the OP seems to want, or even as well as I might like, is realistic right now. But what should be there is a basic design document, saying, in very simple terms and in as few words as possible, what the game is supposed to be about and what the general ideas are, then end with asking for support to bring the vision to reality, while explaining what's in it for the backers. A short sales pitch, if you will.

  User Deleted
4/10/13 12:07:27 AM#47
Originally posted by Dahkoht
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Marxis2727
Originally posted by Flex1

Amazing the high level of stupidity and ignorance present here.

 

It is simple.

 

You don't know anything about this guy or his past projects of Dark Age of Camelot. You visit the website to find more information, What is Camelot Unchained? What will it offer?

 

Upon exploring the website you don't find that information fast enough or don't find it at all so your interest disappeared and you closed the browser tab.

 

Good bye possible pledger.

 

With better organization of available information on that website they could have had 1 more person donating $15 or more.

 

How is it that hard to understand the OP here? You guys are defending sloppy design and celebrating the fact that this pledge was turned away.

Pretty much summed it up perfectly.  

 

The OP is concerned about any potential backers losing interest quickly after browsing the webpage which seems to be lacking proper presentation.  Thats it..... 

The mentality currently is "Shut up and pledge, if it even LOOKS like you may say something negative you are the enemy and we will attack!" lol. 

Sadly it seems the case , and blind fanaticism always turns out to make a good game.

Yeah, it seems to have worked for Darkfall and Mortal Online.

 

BTW, I wouldn't expect them to have a professional website yet. The game is barely anything more than someone's drunken scrawling on a bar napkin at this point.

  PRX_sklurb

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4/10/13 12:22:20 AM#48
Originally posted by Raventree
I am excited that the game hasn't even been funded yet and the PVP has already started!  WOOHOO!

^

:)

CLICK: »»» http://CamelotUnchained.net «««

  Destai

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4/10/13 12:38:42 AM#49
Originally posted by Grunty
Nit picking is not brutal. It's just nit picking.

Or they can have the decency to review their website and make sure it's complete before they release it. They need to give players a reason to care about their game. Principles and concept art don't matter. Show me the gameplay, show me the controls. Don't show me mocked up media or stories. Do that after I'm sold on the actual thing I will be playing. 

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  Troianman

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4/10/13 1:18:51 AM#50
Originally posted by Destai
Originally posted by Grunty
Nit picking is not brutal. It's just nit picking.

Or they can have the decency to review their website and make sure it's complete before they release it. They need to give players a reason to care about their game. Principles and concept art don't matter. Show me the gameplay, show me the controls. Don't show me mocked up media or stories. Do that after I'm sold on the actual thing I will be playing. 

You are looking for substance, that is understandable if a game exists. In this case it does not, the game only exists as a group of ideas backed by knowledge gained through experience. Much of it is simply information that is found in the interviews,  the site, the kickstarter page and its updates. They cannot show you something that does not yet exist and once it does exist it seems to be shown in an update as soon as they can. The point of the kickstarter project is to help bring the game into existence.

  MikeJezZ

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4/10/13 2:30:17 AM#51

I am a backer, but I agree.

 

Only reason I'm funding this is because I have faith in this project, since RvR in DAoC and Warhammer Online was good for me.

 

AFAIK they haven't really started with the project other than the engine.

 

But the lack of showoff is really what could kill this kickstart.

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  BlueTiger33

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4/10/13 2:33:09 AM#52

I don't support this game. After looking at the website it's more of a news outlet then anything. No real "guts" or information relayed.

Seeing them grab through kickstarter made me look into the game but it's not one I'd support.


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  Caldrin

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4/10/13 2:41:50 AM#53
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I guess the OP has not been keeping up with the blogs, most people interested in the game will have read all the blogs the guy posted in the months prior to the kickstarter campaign going live...

 

I am also sure the website will get a lot better but between the website and the kickstarter page I am sure you can work out what the game is going to be about..

 

Tho at the end of the day the game is not for everyone.. they know its going to be a niche game at best and thats what they are aiming for..

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  DMKano

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4/10/13 8:10:38 AM#54
Originally posted by MikeJezZ

I am a backer, but I agree.

 

Only reason I'm funding this is because I have faith in this project, since RvR in DAoC and Warhammer Online was good for me.

 

AFAIK they haven't really started with the project other than the engine.

 

But the lack of showoff is really what could kill this kickstart.

Same boat here and I agree.

  Betaguy

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4/10/13 8:12:52 AM#55
I disagree with everything in your critique, but, to each their own.

  Thorkune

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4/10/13 8:18:58 AM#56
Originally posted by BlueTiger33

I don't support this game. After looking at the website it's more of a news outlet then anything. No real "guts" or information relayed.

Seeing them grab through kickstarter made me look into the game but it's not one I'd support.

Same here. I find it bizarre that so many people will throw money at a promise. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but I think it would be funny if the game ended up being a mobile 2D browser game managed by EA...with cool islands of course. 

  Marxis2727

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4/10/13 8:20:02 AM#57
Originally posted by Caldrin
snip

I guess the OP has not been keeping up with the blogs, most people interested in the game will have read all the blogs the guy posted in the months prior to the kickstarter campaign going live...

 

I am also sure the website will get a lot better but between the website and the kickstarter page I am sure you can work out what the game is going to be about..

 

Tho at the end of the day the game is not for everyone.. they know its going to be a niche game at best and thats what they are aiming for..

I think the OP is more referring to the people who have not yet been informed of this game yet.  Potential backers, the people reading up on this game for the first time.  But you do make a good point, you should be able to figure out what the game is about by visiting both the website and kickstarter page.

  Mortify

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4/10/13 9:16:26 AM#58

The OP is right about 1 thing, when it comes to websites people's attention span is very

 

 

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  Stromm

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4/10/13 9:23:50 AM#59
Originally posted by Mortify

The OP is right about 1 thing, when it comes to websites people's attention span is very

 

 

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  littlemonkey

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4/10/13 9:30:09 AM#60
I agree with the OP and I think it's appropriate for him to raise this issue.

He's serving a useful purpose. Just like pointing out a bug in a beta test, he's telling you where you have a problem.

The CU website is a "bug" in Camelot Unchained's Kicstarter Campaign.

A more approachable and informative website shouldn't be too big a task. Just fix it.

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