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General Discussion  » Now that Camelot Unchained is coming - how will this game really fare?

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4/08/13 1:00:37 PM#21
Cannot tell because CU exists only in some guy's head and ESO looks like a random mediocre PvP game and it's similarities to The Elder Scrolls might be fully coincidental.

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4/08/13 1:05:06 PM#22
ESO will have 3 years plus on CU so I really dont think it's gonna matter. CU is still in the ON PAPER stage and ESO I think is due to release this year!!

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4/08/13 1:20:00 PM#23

Instead of crying about what game will be better I really hope both games are good. Its better for me if I have a couple games to play instead of just one. I know that this site is all about who's game is better than everyone elses though and people here can't look past that, but I want good games, not just one.

My Game can beat up your Game posts are funny though.


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4/08/13 1:23:02 PM#24

Camelot Unchained will have almost zero effect on whether or not TESO will do well or not.  


All we have is words from CU.  Nothing more.


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4/08/13 1:26:51 PM#25

By eliminating the PVE aspect of the game, the game will lose a lot of player base. I don’t think this game will really go far unless it have very unique feature that other games don’t and there are so many other games that are RvR already, I don’t see what the big hype is about.


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4/08/13 2:33:19 PM#26

Originally posted by meddyck

That's easy. It will offer levelling and gear grinding first plus it will have different mechanics that may appeal more to former DAOC players

so by offering less content (no PVE) that somehow means it offers more?

i guess if you are a fan of moba games or fps shooters that may appeal to you more than TESO would.

as a fan of both Daoc and TES, i want pve in my game too. i am not saying i wouldn't give CU a try if it did its pvp really well but i just don't see what that game would offer that TESO will not, other than being a newer game and doing things a little differently.


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4/08/13 3:40:13 PM#27
If both were released today, I'd immediately buy both.  And I rarely buy mmos without trying them out first.


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4/08/13 3:42:23 PM#28

As far out as CU is, if it even funds, I'll probably get plenty of time in TES (if it gets good reviews) then move into CU later. I'm more interested in how TES will stack up against GW2 for PVP.


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4/08/13 3:45:09 PM#29
Considering the fact that CU is being funded now and would likely take several years to be completed and its leaning towards a specific audiance of gamer seeking pvp... I'd say it would do extreme little, if anything at all.


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4/08/13 3:49:11 PM#30
Given how long I stick around a typical TP MMO, CU isn't coming fast enough, by the time it releases I'm sure TESO will be a distant memory for me. Which makes it all the better that the Repop is coming this year (hopefully) as well.

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

4/08/13 4:07:22 PM#31

I would predict a complete flop and aside from Wow i am usually right.

There are too many games all trying to do the same things and nobody can play all of them.So the cream rises to the top and the rest are revolving door games.

nobody has to reinvent the wheel because there is still plenty of creativity untouched within current designs.The problem is devs just want to do the bare minumum,it wil lnot work anyhmore the market is flooded.
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4/08/13 4:35:59 PM#32
Originally posted by Rusque

So there's this super awesome game that no one has even had the idea for, do you think it will hurt CU?

I thought the GW2 hype was bad, people looked at that game like it was their savior. The CU crowd is so much worse and that game is still just an idea! You guys are going to hype it to death and by the time (IF) it's made everyone's expectations will be astronomical.

There's no way CU is going to live up DAOC nostalgia + years of hype . . .  you guys are killing the very game you want to see.

Sums it up. Reminds Duke Nukem Forever. If it was released like even 10 years ago would it be so much critisised? Doubtfully. Same may easily happen here with CU.

Back on topic:

1. I don't really think that CU and TESO are targeted to exactly same crowd. First is supposed to have no PvE at all while TESO despite RvR stuff will also contain at least some PvE (including endgame).

2. Even if previous point is not valid then CU release date is what? 2016? 2017? Doubtfully any sooner unless development already started or they intend to release only technology but no content with version 1.0 (that would be ofc fail)

3.  What may or may not be similar is approach to open world gameplay. With CU, as it is RvR, I believe that this would be main focus for obvious reasons. With TESO I've got an impression that regardless current content company didn't decide yet if they want to push it towards more of WoW like gameplay (mostly instanced gameplay for endgame) or open world. It to some extense reminds me of Rift where initially it appeared that open world gameplay may be important yet it turned into what it turned. Which was decided tbh at later stages of development.

Regarding point 3 I am not stating that TESO will be like WoW or Rift. Just stating that it doesn't really look like they have decided what main focus will eventually be. For now it is Cyrodil. But then it is for now.


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4/08/13 4:39:56 PM#33

Camelot Unchained is coming? Really? When?

I thought it was yet another KS pan-handling vapourware pipe-dream.

Got an ETA?


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4/08/13 4:43:28 PM#34

TESO will fare like SWTOR.

huge initial burst, then falloff and then.........well you know how most MMOs have fared lately.

people allways look for the next thing to satisfy their unsatisfiable hunger.... Kinda like seen it, I'm movin on.


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4/08/13 4:46:32 PM#35
I don't even know why CU matters, as far as I care it doesn't even exist, so it doesn't affect TESO in any way. I'll buy/play TESO and won't buy/play CU because it's a waste of time of a game meant to take advantage of a nostalgic niche of players that have all grown up/moved on. I hope that works as an answer.

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4/08/13 4:48:00 PM#36
Yeah chances are ESO will be a ways into its release before CU is even close to finished.. if it gets funded. It'd be a different story if the two were expected to be released at the same time.

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It's all about pushing the right buttons

4/08/13 5:06:17 PM#37
Originally posted by JayDose
Yeah chances are ESO will be a ways into its release before CU is even close to finished.. if it gets funded. It'd be a different story if the two were expected to be released at the same time.

There will be years between the games, so it is Fairly certain that you cant blame it on CU when TESO flops (after 6 Montana i am pretty sure it will attain only a few 100 k subscribers and sinking  from There until it goes F2P.


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4/08/13 5:20:28 PM#38

Let me tell what will happen


TESO launches, people play it, get to the end-game in 2 weeks and come to saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Archeage launches on the west, people play it, get very deep on the game and then come to saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Blizzard announces Titan, hype goes off the fucking charts, every other mmo then looks like a time waster until titan launchs

Camelot Unchained releases, old-school fans gets disappointed for the game not being exactly DAoC with better graphics and not even remotely paying its hype off, more fresh players get disappointed by indie quality gameplay and everyone will have their eyes on the new shiny mmos coming out

World of Darkness launches, it replaces EvE as the sandbox king

Titan laucnhes, it replaces WoW as the mmo king


And then you have CCP and Blizzard ruling the mmo market

Just as today

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4/08/13 6:48:27 PM#39
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Cetra
Originally posted by Sentnl

Hahahahaah, now that it's coming! ...In two years time.

correction. 3 years

If then, assuming that there are no issues. Who knows since they haven't even started the main design/coding stage.


CU hype train makes the SWTOR and the GW2 hype trains look pathetic. At least we had game videos to watch while hyping this game. We have one pathetic tech show and some line drawings? WOW - HYPE CITY!!!

Yep. And those game videos sucked us into a comletely rubbish game in both cases. So, how exactly did the videos help?

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4/08/13 8:43:16 PM#40

Elder Scrolls = much bigger name to the younger players ranging from teens to early 20s which is where the majority of the gaming population is. As far as I'm concerned CU will be a smudge on the windshield at best. Also the fact that CU will be a P2P game and ESO will most likely go the route of GW2 and be B2P it will be easier for people to commit themselves to a game they pay for once and dont need to worry about making a subcription cost actuallly count.


Oh and of course as others mentioned CU hasn't even started its development phase, whilst ESO will be out November of this year supposably. 



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