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News & Features Discussion  » [Interview] Camelot Unchained: KickStarter Launch Interview

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4/08/13 6:40:38 PM#21
Originally posted by Maric
I really hope this funds. Some of my best days in gaming were spent in DAoC RvR. A focused RvR MMORPG is a dream come true. Jacobs is one of the few developers in the industry that really gets it. Much respect for his community involvement over the years. PLEDGED. BIGTIME.

Same. I love RVR and really excited about this. Hopefully more people will pledge so we can see CU become a reality.


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4/08/13 7:53:28 PM#22
I hope they succeed but with no PvE option I have no interest in contributing.

Playing: GW2 & Robocraft


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4/08/13 7:54:09 PM#23

I see this type of funding and wait periods to become more prevalent for a lot of games.  So get used to it.



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4/08/13 8:06:39 PM#24
Originally posted by cronius77
Originally posted by nf4mous
Originally posted by hardicon

I dont really understand this mmorpg.  this game that hasnt even started development and might not even get made seems to get so much coverage from this website.  I mean anything they say yall do an interview with them about it, devs go poop, yall do interview.

whats the deal with this, they havent announced anything that even remotely sounds like it would be a good game.  dont you think there are other games coming out that maybe yall could devote a little bit of time to instead of 5 interviews and colums a week on daoc ripoff number whatever (as if one daoc wasnt bad enough).


it gets "so much coverage" because DAOC was one of the most popular PvP / RvR games in history, and was the talk of the town amongst the PvP crowd until forced PvE was jammed down their throats, leading to a mass exodus.   Just because you never played and "don't understand the game" doesn't mean it wasn't succfessful, nor does it mean a new game based on DAOC's same mechanics with its original creator won't be successful in the future.

and contrary to your misinformed hatred, they've announced plenty that make it sound it will be a terrific game, including the no leveling based on PvE aspect while the entire endgame is determined by the players in tri-realm combat.  Bring it on! Just pledged $250.

im a former DAOC player also for over 4 years straight and to this day is the only game ive played for that long a period of time straight because most dont hold my interest but with that being said you are seriously wearing some rose tinted glasses. DAOC was by far not all that popular compared to games like EQ and UO. DAOC I dont even think ever broke 250k subs , and the people would leave for other games like shadowbane and SWG all the time.  Im not trying to knock your view on DAOC but some of this is inaccurate and just comes off as blantant fanboism. I personally will not pledge to this game either because there will be zero pve and it will be all pvp all the time except when crafting or hanging out in your house. Thats a concern of me because sometimes I like to just take it easy after a hard day at work doing pve in games , but that isnt going to happen so why would I pay a sub to , or support a game that half of it IMO is missing ?  Also with the way warhammer ended up with balance and so much cc and months upon months of classes like bright wizards destroying entire warbands makes me think twice about investing in it. I wish it the best personally though and I hope Mark succeeds but it doesnt interest me either in playing it when a much more polished version with TESO will be out before it.

First, 250K at the time when MMO where starting was big. I wasn't there then, but from the feedback i got from the time DAoC didn't benefit from a great advertisement campaign, so that number is quite high.


Second, i don't have the source here (probably among the thousands KS comment), but MJ said clearly that you will be able to play your crafter full time and find it fun. Why go PvE when you can build things that'll stay in the world and still be there when you come back?


Third, as MJ made that many games and made a living out of it, i don't think he is dumb. And only a dumb person doesn't learn from his mistakes. That means the mistakes made with WAR won't be repeated, and using it to justify the future failure of the game is then irrelevant. You can even use it to say the game will be a success, as as you can wonder what other mistakes he could make.

Furthermore, the backers will be discussing every idea from the start and will test them at least one year before release, so we can be pretty safe about the class balance.


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4/08/13 8:15:04 PM#25
Originally posted by DJMantiss
Originally posted by Mkilbride

Nice interview.


Almost half--way and  over 3 weeks left.


Can't wait for the stretch goals.


This is going to be a very social game, and for those worried about no PvE...


Keep in mind, there are mobs, animals, and will be dragons to kill. You just won't get loot from them, or level up on them.

Which begs the question of why would they waste development time and money to make them at all? Seems like a really bad point or arguement to me. Investing time and money into game elements that do literally nothing for you makes zero sense.


Because a world without any life would feel empty. And if you count guards as PvE, then you also need to make it so than 1 player can't capture a fortifyed place just because he is the only one awake.


And you don't need to make hundreds of different mobs to have some PvE. Put in the game only a few dozens and it won't take many ressouces while still having enough.


Besides, there may be some mobs or animals that'll drop some crafting materials like the leather.


Oh, and the dragons are an important part of the game's background, so you need to have some of them.


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4/08/13 8:17:03 PM#26

It wasn't just the game, although it was a great game and a standard that others tried to build on. 




It was the community too.


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4/08/13 8:49:08 PM#27
Haha - had to laugh at some of the posts here. " It's a scam ", "daoc sucked", " no pve I'm out because I want to play every aspect of the game".

Too funny. As to the question of whether or not people want to play a pvp only game... Anyone ever heard of a little game called League of Legends? What do you think that game is? Players versus other players lol.

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4/08/13 9:17:32 PM#28

LOL @ all the ignorant posters here, Kickstarter is a funding tool !!  If the game was almost done then there is no reason to use Kickstarter! haha


Why would anyone post here with negative BS, if you don't like the game or the philosophy behind it then why even bother posting?  It's obsurd to think that some of you would just blatently bash the kickstarter of a game that obviously lots of people are trying to promote.


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4/08/13 10:21:56 PM#29


If the game sucks, do I get my money back?

No?  Thus...I will not pledge.


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4/08/13 11:35:51 PM#30
Originally posted by supergfunk

LOL @ all the ignorant posters here, Kickstarter is a funding tool !!  If the game was almost done then there is no reason to use Kickstarter! haha


Why would anyone post here with negative BS, if you don't like the game or the philosophy behind it then why even bother posting?  It's obsurd to think that some of you would just blatently bash the kickstarter of a game that obviously lots of people are trying to promote.

Do enlighten me how it's absurd for others to form opinions of their own? Last time I checked everyone is an indvidual and has their own ideas of what is good and what is not. Also a lot of people are posting negative feedback because some of us don't think it's ethical for to continue to hype up a game that hasn't even started the development process yet.



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4/08/13 11:43:52 PM#31
I played DAoC for 5 years and for me to get strongly behind this it would have to at least have the same scope that DAoC had, minues the forced PVE ToA stuff.  Either way, I hope it funds.

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4/08/13 11:59:49 PM#32
Personally I'm hoping they don't hit the number needed for kickstarter. A game that is not even made yet and they want people to fund it. What they need to do is get a working prototype first and get outside investors. Trust me if the game was worth investing in  they can easily get outside investors to back the game. Look at darkfall it created the game the way it wanted too and  it didn't have to go to kickstart to do it. I for one will not be pledging money to a game that hasn't even started to be made yet and I think it's foolish for people to do the same. You are basically playing lotto with a game that won't even come out the way you want it too. 

I would give you a guest pass to SWOTR, but then I wouldn't be able to find a way to live with myself afterwards....


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4/09/13 12:10:49 AM#33
@xion12121 I understand not wanting to fund a project like this but you are mistaken - there is outside funding for the project. $1 Million to be exact. Mark Jacobs has explained exactly why he using kickstarter. He's not sure there are enough people out there who want to play a pvp only mmo. So ks is actually serving two purposes - crowd funding and crowd validation. It's a super smart idea but they have a bunch of good ideas which is why me and 6,000 other people are getting on board.

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4/09/13 12:41:00 AM#34
He sounds like he doesn't even care about the game lol.

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4/09/13 3:16:42 AM#35
Lots of these kickstarters with famous credentials getting of the ground, but I dont see the player base swelling that much in the next few years. No mater how good your game is players are up to their eyeballs in MMO's.

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4/09/13 3:17:30 AM#36
Originally posted by supergfunk

LOL @ all the ignorant posters here, Kickstarter is a funding tool !!  If the game was almost done then there is no reason to use Kickstarter! haha


Why would anyone post here with negative BS, if you don't like the game or the philosophy behind it then why even bother posting?  It's obsurd to think that some of you would just blatently bash the kickstarter of a game that obviously lots of people are trying to promote.

As this man sad i dont even get why there are ppl like xion12121Sp00sh,HellCaster.Panzerbase... Seriosly why the hell do you even think eny of us (fans of   CU) even care about your opinions.. You want chat go to ******* FB. Stop wasting your and our time with shit.


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4/09/13 4:26:20 AM#37


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4/09/13 4:30:27 AM#38

Camelot unchained seems like it could be an interesting game for me but it's impossible to tell how the game will end up at this early stage.


I don't support kickstarter funding for games until developers start giving alot more to the fans who fund their games at such an early stage. Currently it's just a way for developers to shove the risk taking on their fans while giving out standard pre-order rewards and other in-game stuff that's basically free for the devs.


The rewards for backing are laughable compared to what an investor would demand if they would fund the game, come on devs you can do better than this.


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4/09/13 4:38:10 AM#39
Originally posted by Sornin


An MMORPG site covering an MMORPG? Heaven forbid!

 the problem is they don´t have anything to show, no prototype, just some foundational principles doesn´t cut it for me.

I don´t buy the cat in the bag, backed a lot of well prepared KS games  (e.g.Elite and Star Citizen) but not this one

Secrets of Dragon´s Spine Trailer.. ! :D

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The Return of ELITE !


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4/09/13 5:14:00 AM#40
Good luck!
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