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  taziar

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4/06/13 10:59:00 AM#81

The poll is on a consumer based site, so it is focused on the worst customer-facing companies.  This still leaves banks, but what makes EA worse is this...  

Banks offer a generic service that you can get from any financial institution.  Hate BoA?  Don't do business with them. Simple.  Countless other companies offer the same exact service.

EA produces ART.  A unique product specific to that company.  You may hate the company, but if you want to play Mass Effect, you have no choice but to deal with EA.  So people either tolerate their anti-consumer practices, or are forced to limit their gaming options.  

 

 

 

  Ramonski7

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4/06/13 11:11:11 AM#82
Originally posted by taziar

The poll is on a consumer based site, so it is focused on the worst customer-facing companies.  This still leaves banks, but what makes EA worse is this...  

Banks offer a generic service that you can get from any financial institution.  Hate BoA?  Don't do business with them. Simple.  Countless other companies offer the same exact service.

EA produces ART.  A unique product specific to that company.  You may hate the company, but if you want to play Mass Effect, you have no choice but to deal with EA.  So people either tolerate their anti-consumer practices, or are forced to limit their gaming options.  

 

 

 

Yeah but you do not need EA to get by in life....that's the whole point of many of us that are in astonishment. I don't remember the last time where art trumps well being.


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  Axehilt

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4/06/13 11:20:28 AM#83
Originally posted by DamonVile

Here's some facts. A pretty impressive body count imo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Electronic_Arts

I think you mislinked.  That's a list of acquisitions by EA, not a list of killed companies.  Try again.

  Axehilt

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4/06/13 11:21:39 AM#84
Originally posted by Balverine
Originally posted by Axehilt

 (in spite of Sim City having a smoother launch than Diablo 3 had.) 

I really doubt that.

Sim City for me had one day of non-service.

Diablo 3 had several.

  Dihoru

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4/06/13 11:39:49 AM#85

Pff for me EA is the worst company in the world because I've never had any dealings with the ones mentioned by others personally ergo I cannot form a objective/unbiased opinion on those companies and thus cannot judge them as being better or worse though I will have to say this much: The US companies starting to push for a healthcare reform in my country (you know what kind of system would result) are starting to get a leg up on EA but still treating people like expendable wallets is at its core and evil practice and EA is guilty of such.

 

SOE... has actual F2P games now so it gets outclassed by EA in the greed department and while SWG was a shining turd of a game debacle it carries no consequence when A) EA fucked over their entire userbase for one game series for "artistic integrity" (in as much as anyone defending the burning of the Twilight saga due to artistic integrity) B) SOE knows about the various emulator projects of SWG and has opted not to C&D them so they get another leg up (before you ask: nothing confirmed but developers from the emulators have been in contact with the PR reps from SOE in the past asking various questions and even some old SWG devs which, then, were still at SOE).

  DamonVile

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4/06/13 11:39:54 AM#86
Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by DamonVile

Here's some facts. A pretty impressive body count imo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Electronic_Arts

I think you mislinked.  That's a list of acquisitions by EA, not a list of killed companies.  Try again.

It's a list of game companies that drew the attation of EA and are now gone swallowed by  the crap factory that is EA.  Not only does EA produce crap. They buy up great companies and stop them from making good games.

People voting yes understand there are worse real life companies out there the hyperbole being used to make the point. This is like the raspberry awards. They always give the award to someone at least semi famous even though there are lots of worse unknown talent out there.

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  poisonman

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4/06/13 11:45:43 AM#87

Let me preface my post here with this statement before ranting about how EA sucks.

I agree, EA is not the worst company in America or the World, but they are awful.

Originally posted by Isturi
Im not sure were else I would ask the question. After all  EA is a gaming company.

I haven't read this whole thread yet but this comment I find hilarious though.

EA is not a gaming company, gaming companies IMHO try to make good games, EA doesn't care about making good games, they care about parting you of as much of your money as they possible can at all times.

That should be clearly obviously to everyone now that they are trying to put microtransactions in every single game they make, even single player games, Dead Space 3 anyone? 

That and they reskin old games and just increment the number on the title, aka any EA sports game, reskined from the year before here is Madden 2013 guys, don't mind the fact nothing has changed from 2012.

Now they are doing the same shit with the Battlefield series, someone in this thread already mentioned how they are making it like COD with the releases every year and I agree. 

I mean Battlefield 4 is already accepting preorders and Battlefield 3 what just finished putting out its last Expansion / DLC with "End Game" in March right? makes sense..

EA would print money instead of making games if it was legal.

I wish EA would stop buying good companies, games, and IPs and ruining them, just running them into the ground and scavenging every cent from them they possible can before discarding them.

Like someone already mentioned, how many companies do they need to destroy before people open their eyes? Origin Systems, Mythic, Bioware, DICE, I'm sure the list could go on and on like a RAP sheet.

EA wouldn't be such a bad company if they just bought out these companies, offered them more money / backing / resources and let them do their own damn thing like they were doing before being bought out by EA in the first place.

Having the money, backing, manpower, etc, etc, of EA was suppose to be a boon, be helpful to these Developers / Companies (that EA buys out) and really help to make them really shine, instead it buried them all in the EA Graveyard, the Graveyard that increases in size every year with every new developer / company acquisition they get.

EA would have still made a boat load of money and these games / companies / and IPs wouldn't be washed out shells of their former selves or even worse non-existant if EA just let them "do their own thing".

Instead they do what they always do and mess everything up with their lustful money greed.

It may not be all EA's fault but it is just funny to think about how many of these developers were pretty damn successful all on their own before being bought out and how some of them don't even exist anymore even as "just a name" within EA .  (ie: Origin Systems, Mythic, etc.) 

EA is the boss with all the power, money, and control (being the publisher), hard to blame the developers for EA pushing and rushing them and not giving them any wiggle room or control over themselves to grow, take risks, innovate, and just "do their own thing", you know the "thing" that made them so successful that EA wanted to buy them out in the first place.

Not every game has to be super accessible or casual friendly, not every game you make has to be for EVERYONE.

And not every game needs to be made fast, just like its being spit out of a assembly line like a order at a fast food resturant.  Waiting sucks and we as gamers and consumers hate it, but in the end we would rather have quality over speed, EVERY TIME.

Also what is with the releasing of sequels / incremental numbers every year in repeatable / predictable fashion, games like Madden and CoD with little to nothing changed, usually nothing significant enough where they couldn't just send you a free update or possibly DLC (yuck) over the internet since all these consoles and PCs connect to the internet nowadays.  It could easily just be a patch rather than them charging you another $60 for the same thing again, we see huge content additions and changes in MMOs via patches everyday.

Niche games are good, taking risks is a good thing, innovating is a good thing.  Not every game has to pull in WoW like numbers and money to be considered succesful, would it be nice? yes, but as long as your making a profit and your consumers are happy, I don't understand what the big deal is.

Ugh, I got a headache now...  I'm off to read the rest of the thread.

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  xxvexerxx

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4/06/13 11:50:59 AM#88

 

Regardless of whether Electronic Arts (EA) deserves to be denounced as the "worst" company, one cannot deny the power that comes with the multi-billion dollar industry that has captivated many generations who are the basis of this companies success and condemnation. 


 

Within this company's realm of business, then yes, they deserve to be called as such. However, they should be commended for both acknowledging and responding to it in kind in order to better themselves. Now, lets face it, if your own fans hate you then your company has a limited life span.

  Axehilt

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4/06/13 12:35:40 PM#89
Originally posted by DamonVile

It's a list of game companies that drew the attation of EA and are now gone swallowed by  the crap factory that is EA.  Not only does EA produce crap. They buy up great companies and stop them from making good games.

Looking back over the list, I'm hard-pressed to find examples of what you're describing.  Many aren't relevant to core gamers (Pogo, Popcap, and the sports game companies), and the big-name companies apart from that tend to have made games exactly as good as, if not better than, previous offerings (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, C&C:G: Zero Hour, Lord of Ultima, Battleforge, Battlefield 3, Sim City).  Actually I suppose all of those examples are better than what each of those companies produced prior to being with EA.

The only vague argument would be Mythic, since I'm sort of alone (on these forums at least) in feeling like DAOC wasn't particularly great (and therefore Mythic's releases under EA were on par with their prior offerings.)

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

4/06/13 12:42:41 PM#90
EA is no worse than all the others atm.  Everyone is just mad about Sim City.  I asked for someone to name the best company and no one could.  Proves my point.

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  JimmyYO

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4/06/13 12:49:17 PM#91

How does EA just being the worst video game company give any of you comfort lol?? It's like the forbes article said, this isn't a poll of which company did the most damage but more of a gauge of customer disatisfaction.

Although i would vote SoE but can easily see why EA would win.

  Ramonski7

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4/06/13 1:04:31 PM#92
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by DamonVile

Here's some facts. A pretty impressive body count imo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Electronic_Arts

I think you mislinked.  That's a list of acquisitions by EA, not a list of killed companies.  Try again.

It's a list of game companies that drew the attation of EA and are now gone swallowed by  the crap factory that is EA.  Not only does EA produce crap. They buy up great companies and stop them from making good games.

People voting yes understand there are worse real life companies out there the hyperbole being used to make the point. This is like the raspberry awards. They always give the award to someone at least semi famous even though there are lots of worse unknown talent out there.

I'm sorry but what the hell is a real life company? Are not all companies that exist in our reality real life? Or do you mean serious companies?  You know, companies that actual make a determintal impact on one's life as oppose to a entertainment company like EA. A company, if I may add,  that offers a product that adds no real value to the quality of one's life nor causes any adverse effects?

 

So what you are saying is that those that are voting yes are being willfully ignorant about all other factors of their lives only for the sake of driving home a point that no other company in America has done no worst to them than the atrocities EA has wrecked upon them as customers? No other company in AMERICA?

 

It's no wonder devs are having such a hard time getting anything right with this crowd. And these people  are suppose to be the most well informed mmo players this genre has to offer.....


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  JimmyYO

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4/06/13 1:13:05 PM#93
I'm sorry but what the hell is a real life company? Are not all companies that exist in our reality real life? Or do you mean serious companies?  You know, companies that actual make a determintal impact on one's life as oppose to a entertainment company like EA. A company, if I may add,  that offers a product that adds no real value to the quality of one's life nor causes any adverse effects?

 

So what you are saying is that those that are voting yes are being willfully ignorant about all other factors of their lives only for the sake of driving home a point that no other company in America has done no worst to them than the atrocities EA has wrecked upon them as customers? No other company in AMERICA?

 

It's no wonder devs are having such a hard time getting anything right with this crowd. And these people  are suppose to be the most well informed mmo players this genre has to offer.....

^Gotten to

When did anyone say this is the most well informed mmo playerbase lolol. If you love EA so much just say so. The vote has nothing to do with which company has caused the most unethical damage. Read

  Ramonski7

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4/06/13 1:13:28 PM#94
Originally posted by JimmyYO

How does EA just being the worst video game company give any of you comfort lol?? It's like the forbes article said, this isn't a poll of which company did the most damage but more of a gauge of customer disatisfaction.

Although i would vote SoE but can easily see why EA would win.

For me I would rank:

  • Verizon
  • ComEd
  • Comcast
  • Nicor

well before EA or any video game company. Really though, this should come to no surprise. I mean Ticketmaster was the runner up. But it's nice to know where people here tend to focus their malice.


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  Ramonski7

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4/06/13 1:16:19 PM#95
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I'm sorry but what the hell is a real life company? Are not all companies that exist in our reality real life? Or do you mean serious companies?  You know, companies that actual make a determintal impact on one's life as oppose to a entertainment company like EA. A company, if I may add,  that offers a product that adds no real value to the quality of one's life nor causes any adverse effects?

 

So what you are saying is that those that are voting yes are being willfully ignorant about all other factors of their lives only for the sake of driving home a point that no other company in America has done no worst to them than the atrocities EA has wrecked upon them as customers? No other company in AMERICA?

 

It's no wonder devs are having such a hard time getting anything right with this crowd. And these people  are suppose to be the most well informed mmo players this genre has to offer.....

^Gotten to

When did anyone say this is the most well informed mmo playerbase lolol. If you love EA so much just say so. The vote has nothing to do with which company has caused the most unethical damage. Read

Nah I don't love EA. I just have a wider perspective than the "yes" voters here.


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  Alaya_AngelSoul

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4/06/13 1:18:06 PM#96
One up and coming company they decided not to acquire was DreamWorks. Probably a little known fact.... But bet they regret it everyday.
  GrayGhost79

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4/06/13 1:22:25 PM#97

I'm voting for them again this year. There may be worse companies out there but none of them go to the extents that EA does to save face. EA has tried telling the public that gamers just love their business models and they've repeatedly tried to justify their actions and tell everyone it was in their best interest. Most companies will back off and go "Oh crap, we screwed up bad. If you give us another chance we will try and change and make up for our past mistakes". EA likes to say "oh, well you're wrong and we only did it for your benefit anyways and besides while you may not like it everyone else does so get with the program".

 

I hope they win it again, I truly do. 

  Ramonski7

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4/06/13 1:27:21 PM#98

Just a little more info on the subject. Here is a full list of the contenders:

  • Time Warner Cable (79%) vs. Cablevision (21%)
  • Walmart (58%) vs. Best Buy (42%)
  • DirecTV (56%) vs. Dish (44%)
  • Sallie Mae (53%) vs. PayPal (47%)
  • Facebook (89%) vs. Google (11%)
  • Chase (51%) vs. Wells Fargo (49%)
  • Spirit (59%) vs. American Airlines (41%)
  • Sears (77%) vs. JCPenney (23%)
  • Apple (65%) vs. Microsoft (35%)
  • Bank of America (68%) vs. Capital One (32%)
  • EA (92%) vs. Anheuser-Busch InBev (8%)
  • Comcast (89%) vs. T-Mobile (11%)
  • Ticketmaster (64%) vs. Equifax (36%)
  • United (25%) vs. Carnival (75%)
  • AT&T (68%) vs. Verizon (32%)
  • UPS (45%) vs. FedEx (55%)
Funny how the paired up all of them again similar companies and they put EA up again BEER.....lol
Full article is here.


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  akiira69

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4/06/13 1:31:41 PM#99
Originally posted by Gravarg

I still say SOE is worse than EA, at least EA never starts with a good game then ruins it.  EA at least changes thier upper management when things go bad....SOE has had the same monarchy since the begining....

 

Let's release an expansion, even though we've been working on changing how the entire game works...we'll release that for free next week...omg that's genius!

 

Edit:  A Month later:  Even though more than half our subscribers just left because we just bent them over.  We're going to stick with what we changed because we know what's best for everyone...

 

Several years later:  Even though several years ago we alienated pretty much any of our original playerbase, we still can't be wrong, people are just dumb and don't know what they're missing...I guess we can just shut the game down.

THis guy gets it. No other gaming company is worse than SOE. Star Wars Galaxies is a prime example of SOE ruining a game through Patches. At launch the game was great then they released the Combat Upgrade which drove away 5% of the Player Base. Then they release 2 Expansion Packs and the ruin it again with the NGE. With the release of the NGE they make the game a ghost town. After they realized the game was a ghost town they promise players if they bring costumers back they will get a Ship similar to Queen Amidala's Ship from Episode 1 and a Pod Racer. We know how well that went over, the game is shut down and SWGEmu started up. Then They turned and implamented the CU and NGE into Matrix Online, and implamented the CU into EQ2. All the time they are doing this they are living under the impression that their playerbase is agreeing that these patches are good ideas.

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  Instigator-Jones

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4/06/13 1:35:23 PM#100
In response to the title only... No, 'Big Oil' takes that title whole heartedly. 
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