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  Biskop

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Joined: 10/06/11
Posts: 731

4/03/13 1:36:26 AM#21
Originally posted by Psychow
End of story. End of drama.

But then what would be the point of this site?

  ElRenmazuo

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Joined: 10/28/06
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4/03/13 1:37:45 AM#22
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by tkreep
After how SWTOR turned out its hard to have faith in this one too because swtor was also a big IP even bigger than ES.  But its always nice to know even if this fails too there are still other mmos i can look forward to like final fantasy reborn, wildstar and archeage and most of all blizzards Titan project.

swtor had EA in its business, it doesn't count anymore.

Final fantasy.. eh..

Wildstar might be nice for a PvE raid fest - if they truly make it hardcore.

Archeage is slowly losing all of its good traits due to whiny carebears.

Titan project... Hmm.

Im a big final fantasy fan, it was the rpg series i grew playing and final fantasy 11 was the mmo that had me the longest of any mmo so its not just a ..eh..for me.

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  Sentnl

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Joined: 3/07/13
Posts: 79

4/03/13 1:42:33 AM#23
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by tkreep
After how SWTOR turned out its hard to have faith in this one too because swtor was also a big IP even bigger than ES.  But its always nice to know even if this fails too there are still other mmos i can look forward to like final fantasy reborn, wildstar and archeage and most of all blizzards Titan project.

swtor had EA in its business, it doesn't count anymore.

Final fantasy.. eh..

Wildstar might be nice for a PvE raid fest - if they truly make it hardcore.

Archeage is slowly losing all of its good traits due to whiny carebears.

Titan project... Hmm.

Im a big final fantasy fan and final fantasy 11 was the mmo that had me the longest of any mmo so its not just a ..eh..for me.

No judgement, I just think it's very niche :)

As gw2 failed to give me the RvRvR I wanted, I'm hoping ESO does... if not, I have to wait 2~ years for CU. So I would hate to see ESO ruined by whiny people who want it easier, or safer, or more "lame"...

I sometimes play under the alias "Exposed". Don't tell anybody.

  BeansnBread

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 5562

4/03/13 1:43:41 AM#24

To me it's not about comparing the game to previous TES games, it's more about comparing it to other MMORPGs. I tend to prefer more open world experiences in general and this game sounds to be shaping up as being an extremely linear leveling experience with some RvR style PvP at the end.

 

I can't wait to see how it ends up, but I can't help but feel like I'm watching SWTOR all over again. It seems like it will be a game with great stories and a solid single player experience, only to leave me feeling disappointed by the systems that are in place at the end of the story.

 

So while I somewhat agree that the spirit of Elder Scrolls may not be well represented in this game, I really have a bigger issue that it won't feel like the type of open world MMORPG that I prefer. It isn't just TES vs ESO. It's ESO vs MMORPG.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  ElRenmazuo

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Joined: 10/28/06
Posts: 4318

4/03/13 1:47:24 AM#25
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by tkreep
After how SWTOR turned out its hard to have faith in this one too because swtor was also a big IP even bigger than ES.  But its always nice to know even if this fails too there are still other mmos i can look forward to like final fantasy reborn, wildstar and archeage and most of all blizzards Titan project.

swtor had EA in its business, it doesn't count anymore.

Final fantasy.. eh..

Wildstar might be nice for a PvE raid fest - if they truly make it hardcore.

Archeage is slowly losing all of its good traits due to whiny carebears.

Titan project... Hmm.

Im a big final fantasy fan and final fantasy 11 was the mmo that had me the longest of any mmo so its not just a ..eh..for me.

No judgement, I just think it's very niche :)

As gw2 failed to give me the RvRvR I wanted, I'm hoping ESO does... if not, I have to wait 2~ years for CU. So I would hate to see ESO ruined by whiny people who want it easier, or safer, or more "lame"...

Even tho FF reborn wont be as hard as FF11 was and has many similarities to the standard mmo (WoW) its not about that to me, its the familiar elements from the series like the monsters, classes, and items and such, its the game i grew up with. Plus I love the final fantasy style of graphics and their story telling style. Now if only there would be a xenogears or xenosaga mmo i would be in love.

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  rojoArcueid

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Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 5804

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

4/03/13 1:56:18 AM#26
Originally posted by noncley
 Now if TESO is a dog's breakfast then we won't get the good, open, classless, non-linear, complex Elder Scrolls MMO people actually *would* pay and play for for another five to ten years.

i get that already with SKyrim and the next TES 6 whenever it comes out, all for a single box price, some dlc, and a brilliant modding community. Im looking forward to TESO, what i saw in videos already look pretty good but i have to say that if it doesnt offer me as much entertainment and flexibility as the other TES games and still come with a sub, then ill stick to the single player games.

  Mothanos

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Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1885

4/03/13 2:31:22 AM#27

MMO Studio's settle with average crap these days, and even earn millions with it.
As long as Average Joe buys crap mmo's nothing will change.

Basicly it is our own faulth to settle with such low standards when technology and developers with exceptional skills are not put to the test of pushing boundery's and limits.

Average joe like to do daily quests
Average joe like pressing 1 2 3 without much tought
Average joe like not to much hassle or effort
Average joe like simple thing his standards are not to high so he is happy with current mmo models.

While alot more players long for the days back to where real mmo's where made for hardcore people who depended on each other.
Playerbase was small, so small but yet so big, both in impact and gameplay.
That layer of depth is gone.

Only Eve Online remains with such a deep layer of depth, both in meta gaming and risk versus reward.
You could lose evrything in a simple wrong turn or mouseclick.

But as more and more studio's follow the safe path to the milky milky cow and undeafeated cash cow WoW, nothing will ever change.

My highest hope for the future is placed on CCP with World Of Darkness.

Yet ESO could have been that one kind of special mmo where shit matterd.....missed opertunity once again.

  Sentnl

Novice Member

Joined: 3/07/13
Posts: 79

4/03/13 2:48:26 AM#28
Originally posted by Mothanoss.

Yet ESO could have been that one kind of special mmo where shit matterd.....missed opertunity once again.

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You haven't even played the game you doom and gloomer. You go on about how games arent what they used to be, and gamers are now fragile little, slope headed, simpletons... yet you're going down the same path with your tears.

I've seen it in every forum, for every game post-wow, which we can all agree created your breed of gamer, sulky doom and gloomers.

Also, just because you subbed to eve and floated around in your t1 frigate, doesnt mean you played it. Eve is a glorified spreadsheet, its all about numbers and calculations, eve is not fun for most people, it does not get to be compared to the "average mmorpg".

I sometimes play under the alias "Exposed". Don't tell anybody.

  azzamasin

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Joined: 6/06/12
Posts: 2830

We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

4/03/13 2:57:30 AM#29
Originally posted by Mothanos

MMO Studio's settle with average crap these days, and even earn millions with it.
As long as Average Joe buys crap mmo's nothing will change.

Basicly it is our own faulth to settle with such low standards when technology and developers with exceptional skills are not put to the test of pushing boundery's and limits.

Average joe like to do daily quests
Average joe like pressing 1 2 3 without much tought
Average joe like not to much hassle or effort
Average joe like simple thing his standards are not to high so he is happy with current mmo models.

While alot more players long for the days back to where real mmo's where made for hardcore people who depended on each other.
Playerbase was small, so small but yet so big, both in impact and gameplay.
That layer of depth is gone.

Only Eve Online remains with such a deep layer of depth, both in meta gaming and risk versus reward.
You could lose evrything in a simple wrong turn or mouseclick.

But as more and more studio's follow the safe path to the milky milky cow and undeafeated cash cow WoW, nothing will ever change.

My highest hope for the future is placed on CCP with World Of Darkness.

Yet ESO could have been that one kind of special mmo where shit matterd.....missed opertunity once again.

Sorry guy, sandbox is a niche game and a niche game it wol always be.  Now a Thempark/Sandbox hybrid is something that could sell well.  But until a good hybrid comes along I'll take an MMO that trys something new and exciting which ESO does alot of, plus it isn't a linear themepark more like an open ended themepark with some sandbox elements.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  noncley

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Joined: 1/16/12
Posts: 637

 
OP  4/03/13 8:36:57 AM#30
Originally posted by jandrsn
It's too bad gamers forget a lot of series break the mold and try new things. Not every game needs to be like madden football's wash rinse repeat formula. Sometimes you get a clunker, sometimes you get a gem. Have to wait and see I suppose.

But this is precisely my point. There is nothing in this game that is new. It's a generic rehash of many games that have gone before, most of which have failed. If they had actually put the time, effort and money into creating the open, classless, non-linear aspects of TES as an MMO, then that would have been new. 

  Amana

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4/03/13 9:33:38 AM#31
This has been covered a lot, and there's some discussion of the topic right here in this thread on the front page: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/380802/Will-the-real-ESO-please-standup.html

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