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  redcloud16

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3/30/13 7:40:30 PM#21
Originally posted by VastoHorde 

What I am saying is that this game is not trying to compete with anything out there, its not trying to innovate or change the genre either. This is simply a game that being made to give Final Fantasy fans the game that they deserve like you said.

I dont think you will see alot of marketing like you are seeing now from other games. People who want to know about this game are the ones who know about this game. 

There are things I want to say but can't because of reasons. 

 

I'll mostly agree wth you, if only to say we really don't know at this point. But I do know they are working to make PC and PS3 a simultaneous release, and try to grab a large chunk of players who have never played an MMO before. So that in itself is targetting new players. And we don't know the marketting situation overseas. 

 

Just saying it doesn't help when a website that should be covering a flood of information doesn't even bother, it doesn't help the marketting situation. 

  Jockan

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OP  3/30/13 7:56:20 PM#22
Originally posted by redcloud16
Originally posted by VastoHorde 

What I am saying is that this game is not trying to compete with anything out there, its not trying to innovate or change the genre either. This is simply a game that being made to give Final Fantasy fans the game that they deserve like you said.

I dont think you will see alot of marketing like you are seeing now from other games. People who want to know about this game are the ones who know about this game. 

There are things I want to say but can't because of reasons. 

 

I'll mostly agree wth you, if only to say we really don't know at this point. But I do know they are working to make PC and PS3 a simultaneous release, and try to grab a large chunk of players who have never played an MMO before. So that in itself is targetting new players. And we don't know the marketting situation overseas. 

 

Just saying it doesn't help when a website that should be covering a flood of information doesn't even bother, it doesn't help the marketting situation. 

 

I am sure they want new players also but I am not going to go into this one expecting anything big numbers wise at all. I know what you mean by there are thing you want to say but cant because I also want to say things but I cant.

  redcloud16

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3/30/13 8:16:05 PM#23
Originally posted by VastoHorde
I am sure they want new players also but I am not going to go into this one expecting anything big numbers wise at all. I know what you mean by there are thing you want to say but cant because I also want to say things but I cant.

Oh you are totally right, i do not see them aiming for (or getting, realistically) the big numbers MMO communities expect from MMOs these days. (Which is wrong for any game anyway lol) 

As long as it is stable! 

 

;) 'Please look forward to it!'

  khameleon

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3/30/13 8:24:06 PM#24

The game is dead in North America. Too little, too late. I bought the collectors edition for myself and my GF, so what $200 into the game and it was the worst MMO I have ever played.

I would have liked to try this version to at least see how they progressed, but we were not even sent an invite to the beta....... $200 put in too, wtf?

They already stole our money making such a horrible game 1st time around, now they want us to pay monthly again? I already bought the game it was a total joke, how can they expect us to pay again and trust them after the laughable piece of trash that this game was last time around?

This should be a free to play game in NA, if not its gonna have no hype, very few players willing to pay monthly because you can play games like neverwinter, Tera and many more for free already.

Monthly we are all waiting on stuff like Elder Scrolls or ArcheAge and many others.

 

This game has no market in NA as a pay game after what they did to us with the first version.

 

 

  Jockan

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OP  3/30/13 8:29:38 PM#25
Originally posted by khameleon

The game is dead in North America. Too little, too late. I bought the collectors edition for myself and my GF, so what $200 into the game and it was the worst MMO I have ever played.

I would have liked to try this version to at least see how they progressed, but we were not even sent an invite to the beta....... $200 put in too, wtf?

They already stole our money making such a horrible game 1st time around, now they want us to pay monthly again? I already bought the game it was a total joke, how can they expect us to pay again and trust them after the laughable piece of trash that this game was last time around?

This should be a free to play game in NA, if not its gonna have no hype, very few players willing to pay monthly because you can play games like neverwinter, Tera and many more for free already.

Monthly we are all waiting on stuff like Elder Scrolls or ArcheAge and many others.

 

This game has no market in NA as a pay game after what they did to us with the first version.

 

 

 

 

You have not been listening to anything we have said. Also if you played the previous game for at least 90 days you get legacy status that gives you reduced monthly fee, a unique choocabo mount and your name in the credits. Did you sign up for the beta? 

  redcloud16

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3/30/13 8:47:03 PM#26
Originally posted by khameleon

The game is dead in North America. Too little, too late. I bought the collectors edition for myself and my GF, so what $200 into the game and it was the worst MMO I have ever played.

I would have liked to try this version to at least see how they progressed, but we were not even sent an invite to the beta....... $200 put in too, wtf?

They already stole our money making such a horrible game 1st time around, now they want us to pay monthly again? I already bought the game it was a total joke, how can they expect us to pay again and trust them after the laughable piece of trash that this game was last time around?

This should be a free to play game in NA, if not its gonna have no hype, very few players willing to pay monthly because you can play games like neverwinter, Tera and many more for free already.

Monthly we are all waiting on stuff like Elder Scrolls or ArcheAge and many others.

 

This game has no market in NA as a pay game after what they did to us with the first version.

 

 

 

Where do I begin?!

 

YOu cannot judge this version of the game on Version 1. At all. 

 

They have scrapped nearly everything about version 1 and rebuilt a brand new engine from the ground up. The dev team from version 1 was taken down and reshuffled, and a new team was brought in to make version 1 playable, while simultanesouly working on the new version. 

 

The game was free for a year because it was determined to be unworhy of being charged a monthly fee for. After many changes, and the game was made playable, they reinstated the monthly fee, which I gladly paid at that point. The game was actually fun and playable. 

 

This new version is compltely, entirely different. 

 

I understand your apprehension, and do not blame you for it from that mess that was the release of version 1. 

But as someone who bought the game, you get gauranteed beta access around Phase 3, simply from having a FFXIV service account. Then, I believe you get a free download of the new game if I am not mistaken, as well as a free month.

 

Perhaps with these you could at least give the game a try after so many drastic changes and give it a second chance. 

This has never been done before in all MMOs. If a normal MMO had bombed as 1.0 did, it would simply have been shut down and thrown under the rug and forgotten. 

But this was a main numbered Final Fantasy title. Square Enix could not simply let it go and forget it. Their brand was ruined, and now they must atone and make it up to their player base. Everything is riding on this for them. 

The thing is, Square Enix is self-publishing. They have no investors to appease (such as EA is to BioWare), which means they can make game as they wish. That is why FFXI is still Sub-based. They are not trying to make the maximum amount of money possible. THe game has its playerbase and it is stable and they are content with that. 

With FFXIV they have done what no other MMO has done; took a broken game and rebuilt it completely new. Yes, the first time they released teh game before it was ready and forced it to come out at a specific date, regardless, thinking that people would play it no matter how broken because it was Final Fantasy. 

They paid the price for their hubris. As you can rightly attest.

 

But I think they have learned their lesson. 

 

Please give it a chance, before dismissing it. I, personally, think they deserve to learn from their mistakes. 

EDIT: As for Free to Play, Yoshida has said in his Producer Live letters that the game is not designed for that, and as long as Square can support it to be sub-based, it will. Generally, F2P games are of lower quality, or the investors want to see their money returned as fast as possible. Yoshidas team does not want the quality of the game to be any less than the best it can be, and as I said above, SE has no investors to appease and will support this game is it still supports FFXI. 

  kabitoshin

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3/30/13 9:00:46 PM#27
I'm sold on this game from what I've seen. I love pve, and story driven content. They have taken a lot of good aspects of other games that I like and put it in one. From what they are saying that the amount t of conteny
  kabitoshin

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3/30/13 9:01:44 PM#28
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  Alberel

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3/31/13 12:11:40 AM#29
Originally posted by khameleon

The game is dead in North America. Too little, too late. I bought the collectors edition for myself and my GF, so what $200 into the game and it was the worst MMO I have ever played.

I would have liked to try this version to at least see how they progressed, but we were not even sent an invite to the beta....... $200 put in too, wtf?

They already stole our money making such a horrible game 1st time around, now they want us to pay monthly again? I already bought the game it was a total joke, how can they expect us to pay again and trust them after the laughable piece of trash that this game was last time around?

This should be a free to play game in NA, if not its gonna have no hype, very few players willing to pay monthly because you can play games like neverwinter, Tera and many more for free already.

Monthly we are all waiting on stuff like Elder Scrolls or ArcheAge and many others.

 

This game has no market in NA as a pay game after what they did to us with the first version.

 

Too little? If you bothered to look at just what they've changed (quite literally every.single.thing) you would realise how stupid that sounds.

Anyway they don't expect you trust them, that's why everyone that has an account from 1.0 gets the new version for free including 30 days play time. I reckon 30 days is enough time for you to eat your words...

  Ayulin

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Posts: 344

3/31/13 12:15:38 AM#30
Originally posted by VastoHorde
Originally posted by khameleon

The game is dead in North America. Too little, too late. I bought the collectors edition for myself and my GF, so what $200 into the game and it was the worst MMO I have ever played.

I would have liked to try this version to at least see how they progressed, but we were not even sent an invite to the beta....... $200 put in too, wtf?

They already stole our money making such a horrible game 1st time around, now they want us to pay monthly again? I already bought the game it was a total joke, how can they expect us to pay again and trust them after the laughable piece of trash that this game was last time around?

This should be a free to play game in NA, if not its gonna have no hype, very few players willing to pay monthly because you can play games like neverwinter, Tera and many more for free already.

Monthly we are all waiting on stuff like Elder Scrolls or ArcheAge and many others.

 

This game has no market in NA as a pay game after what they did to us with the first version.

 

 

 

 

You have not been listening to anything we have said. Also if you played the previous game for at least 90 days you get legacy status that gives you reduced monthly fee, a unique choocabo mount and your name in the credits. Did you sign up for the beta? 

Ahh, correction.

If you payed a monthly sub for 90 days, within the alotted period of time, toward the end of 1.0's service period, while they were offering it, you qualified for Legacy status and all of that.

Simply having played for 90 days did not guarantee you that.

  redcloud16

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3/31/13 9:48:40 AM#31
Originally posted by Ayulin

Ahh, correction.

If you payed a monthly sub for 90 days, within the alotted period of time, toward the end of 1.0's service period, while they were offering it, you qualified for Legacy status and all of that.

Simply having played for 90 days did not guarantee you that.

I still think they qualify for a free download of the game and the free trial. Also, phase 3 of beta. If I am not mistaken. 

  drivendawn

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3/31/13 10:04:08 AM#32
Originally posted by redcloud16
Originally posted by Ayulin

Ahh, correction.

If you payed a monthly sub for 90 days, within the alotted period of time, toward the end of 1.0's service period, while they were offering it, you qualified for Legacy status and all of that.

Simply having played for 90 days did not guarantee you that.

I still think they qualify for a free download of the game and the free trial. Also, phase 3 of beta. If I am not mistaken. 

Yes they would qualify.

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