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  Ozmodan

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3/27/13 1:15:47 PM#21
Originally posted by gaeanprayer
Called it. Korea generally speaking is the cutting edge of MMO culture and Rift is far too old-school in its mechanics. I knew it would survive long over there. B&S is pretty traditional fair gameplay-wise, but comes with some added action mechanics like the potential for dodge and LoS and comboing skills. Combat is also more visceral. Diablo is an action dungeon crawler series so, nothing to explain there. I expect games like WildStar, GW2 and ESO to do much better in Korea.

How do you conclude Korea is cutting edge MMO culture?  Explain what you call cutting edge in any of their games.  They like big grinds and lots of rare weaponry, things Rift does not really have.

  Karelia

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3/27/13 1:26:29 PM#22
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
they need to make it B2P like GW2.....

this.

i told so many times in so many posts that the popylation in EU sucks. 1 high and 3 medium servers in peak hours. only one of them english.

They need to make it B2P YESTERDAY!

  Torvaldr

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3/27/13 2:01:45 PM#23
Originally posted by Manolios
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
they need to make it B2P like GW2.....

this.

i told so many times in so many posts that the popylation in EU sucks. 1 high and 3 medium servers in peak hours. only one of them english.

They need to make it B2P YESTERDAY!

One problem I think Rift has is that Trion has sort of lost vision and focus for the game.  They just throw in a hodge-podge of ideas and see what the playerbase likes (e.g.: Wardstones, no falling damage, homogenization of PA gain, etc).

If you even try and discuss the idea of B2P over at the Rift forums the whiteknights come out of the woodwork and forum zerg you.  It's a shame too because the game still has a lot of potential.

  Synns77

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3/27/13 2:05:35 PM#24
i've yet to find an Asian mmo that is worth more than a quick fleeting glance before the grind and terrible story telling make me leave.
Though I haven't played rift for a good 12 months it wipes the floor with games like tera that are all combat and no substance.
  JeroKane

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3/27/13 2:14:45 PM#25
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Except Diablo 3 is doing well there apparently.

Because the geardrops are so frustratingly random, that it makes the perfect hardcore grindgame the Koreans love.

  dotdotdash

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3/27/13 5:02:22 PM#26
Originally posted by Claum

Yeah D3 doing great in China , 90 % bots working for 24 hours on act 3 all day same place same s...... :D hilarious but i do look for Soul & Blade , seems the only mmo that is a bit diferent and interesting and has good pvp system.

But Eu and Usa players can go pick up chese from the shelves in elder scrols the ultra booring series got an mmo sequel now . LOL  It's not going to have more players than the other series of Morowind.

 

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  eddieg50

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3/27/13 5:07:17 PM#27
Beginning of the end
  holycannoli

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3/27/13 6:55:32 PM#28
Originally posted by Purutzil
Originally posted by holycannoli
Originally posted by gaeanprayer
Called it. Korea generally speaking is the cutting edge of MMO culture and Rift is far too old-school in its mechanics. I knew it would survive long over there. B&S is pretty traditional fair gameplay-wise, but comes with some added action mechanics like the potential for dodge and LoS and comboing skills. Combat is also more visceral. Diablo is an action dungeon crawler series so, nothing to explain there. I expect games like WildStar, GW2 and ESO to do much better in Korea.

Korea is the cutting edge of MMO culture? In what universe? The last asian MMO I played was terrible. It was a long pointless grind with virtually no story, lame anime-inspired graphics, and a focus on action and combat at the expense of almost everything else.

If they don't like Rift then screw them. They can keep their lame games. I have yet to play one that appeals to me.

Thus comes Xenophobia, the biggest reason why its a lot harder for good games to be accept through the world. I bet that same arguement you just brought up couldbe reversed for them saying it about western games having pointless grind, no story,  lame Western or kiddie style graphics, and a focus on action and combat at the expense of everything else. 

Yeah, the only thing I'd have to change at all was the the comment about the art style, thats literally your points can so easily be reversed and they make sense. Hell, your Xenophobia even plays part in people like like World of Warcraft which for me is sad that the focus point of people not liking the game was the "Pandas" (in Warcraft 3 btw) or "Asian theme" rather then the actual problems the game had. 

 

I seriously dislike anime, to the point it disgusts me, and I'm not a fan of WoW and it's cartoon graphics, which I played. I looked up that Blade & Soul game and it looks completely anime. No thanks. I won't be going anywhere near it. People don't like pandas because at that point the game has become incredibly corny. Pandas?? Wtf. Remember what George Lucas did to Star Wars with the prequels? Yeah it's something like that (just not on so grand a scale). My top 3 MMOs are Everquest vanilla (pre Luclin), Dark Age Of Camelot and Rift. Everquest has very dated graphics but at least it doesn't look like a cartoon, so it still looks better than WoW. DAOC is fine for it's time, and Rift is a very refreshing change from WoW. I've tried a few asian MMOs and I never want to again. They're [i]ridiculous[/i]. If the content isn't ridiculous then the gameplay is. I played one where people were walking around with dinosaur pets (that had to be bought from the cash shop mind you) and another that had classic fantasy classes like tanks and mages, but included rock stars with electric guitars and some weird chainsaw class. I mean wtf. Who comes up with this crap? They don't bother with a great game like Rift but their preferred MMOs are jokes.
  snapfusion

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3/27/13 7:07:56 PM#29
Originally posted by gaeanprayer
Called it. Korea generally speaking is the cutting edge of MMO culture and Rift is far too old-school in its mechanics. I knew it would survive long over there. B&S is pretty traditional fair gameplay-wise, but comes with some added action mechanics like the potential for dodge and LoS and comboing skills. Combat is also more visceral. Diablo is an action dungeon crawler series so, nothing to explain there. I expect games like WildStar, GW2 and ESO to do much better in Korea.

Cutting edge if you like guys that look like girls and girls that look like they are either 12 years old or pron stars.  I forgot giant swords and over the top spell effects.   Cutting edge if you like anime and high heelsl, or girls with squeeky voices and  heavy breathing male models with hips bigger than their chest, I could go on but you get my point.  But Im glad your all bought in to the freak show that is eastern MMO's.

 

Im stil waiting for one that doesnt give me the creeps.

  rojo6934

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3/27/13 9:16:43 PM#30

Rift didnt need to shut down in Korea, either a B2P or a F2P conversion would get them lots more people and money.

I hope they are smart with NA version and switch the model. The evidence has been out there for a while now with many AAA mmos that Sub-only model is a huge problem for these mmos. Learn from TERA, Trion, Make the game Free, and give more goodies to subscribers.

 

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  BlueTiger33

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3/27/13 9:27:25 PM#31
Originally posted by marz.at.play

Asian games fail in NA and NA games fail in Asia.

P.S. Switch RIFT to B2P in NA ala Aion, TSW, GW2 and TERA, and watch population POP!

 

Little money would come in from the game and you would allow certain players to freeboat. That is wrong.


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  Torvaldr

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3/27/13 9:29:58 PM#32
Originally posted by rojo6934

Rift didnt need to shut down in Korea, either a B2P or a F2P conversion would get them lots more people and money.

I hope they are smart with NA version and switch the model. The evidence has been out there for a while now with many AAA mmos that Sub-only model is a huge problem for these mmos. Learn from TERA, Trion, Make the game Free, and give more goodies to subscribers.

 

This is true, but like I said, try suggesting that on the Rift forums.  They will tear you a new one.  The forum population seems to think the games population and health is just great.  They cite increased server activity since Storm Legion.  Maybe they're right and in NA the game is doing okay.

I totally agree about Tera.  More F2P games (like EQ2) should adopt that model.  It's really good.

  BlueTiger33

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3/27/13 9:30:24 PM#33
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Manolios
Originally posted by PsyMike3d
they need to make it B2P like GW2.....

this.

i told so many times in so many posts that the popylation in EU sucks. 1 high and 3 medium servers in peak hours. only one of them english.

They need to make it B2P YESTERDAY!

One problem I think Rift has is that Trion has sort of lost vision and focus for the game.  They just throw in a hodge-podge of ideas and see what the playerbase likes (e.g.: Wardstones, no falling damage, homogenization of PA gain, etc).

If you even try and discuss the idea of B2P over at the Rift forums the whiteknights come out of the woodwork and forum zerg you.  It's a shame too because the game still has a lot of potential.

 

"The game has potential" and the only thing you keep mentioning is the darn payment model. Come on now....tsk tsk.


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  koboldfodder

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3/27/13 9:30:36 PM#34
Koreans like competitive, PvP orientated MMOs that have real loss and big time grinds.  Rift offers nothing to the average Korean MMO gamer.
  rojo6934

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3/27/13 9:30:38 PM#35
Originally posted by BlueTiger33
Originally posted by marz.at.play

Asian games fail in NA and NA games fail in Asia.

P.S. Switch RIFT to B2P in NA ala Aion, TSW, GW2 and TERA, and watch population POP!

 

Little money would come in from the game and you would allow certain players to freeboat. That is wrong.

Which of the mentioned games failed without the sub? THey all make more money now, and if you have to buy the box like TSW and GW2 nobody is freeboating anything. You just prefer subs and thats fine. Reality is that sub-only is not the right decition anymore (it was years ago). Now more options work better.

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  Volgore

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3/27/13 9:43:13 PM#36

You can blame Hartsman and his personal pride to not go F2P for the pathetic state of affairs about Rift.

Korea closes, EU is dead since forever.

But hey, at least they have enough "trial servers".

Back from the banned...again.

  azzamasin

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3/27/13 10:23:58 PM#37
Originally posted by marz.at.play

Asian games fail in NA and NA games fail in Asia.

P.S. Switch RIFT to B2P in NA ala Aion, TSW, GW2 and TERA, and watch population POP!

 

Yup, Rift is failing because they still stay true to that stagnant and archaic subscription philosophy.  Remove it and I bet you at least a million new players will flock to the game.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  JasonJ

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3/27/13 10:42:59 PM#38
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by Claum

Yeah D3 doing great in China , 90 % bots working for 24 hours on act 3 all day same place same s...... :D hilarious but i do look for Soul & Blade , seems the only mmo that is a bit diferent and interesting and has good pvp system.

But Eu and Usa players can go pick up chese from the shelves in elder scrols the ultra booring series got an mmo sequel now . LOL  It's not going to have more players than the other series of Morowind.

 

China

South Korea

Elder Scrolls

 

Should probably do a little research.

 By no means am I backing his comments here at all but I could have sworn I read that when Oblivions game of the year and gold box editions came out it pushed its total sales to over 5 million.

  Drealgrin

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3/28/13 1:20:29 AM#39

Rift is dying due to their idiotic policy of banning people who simply speak their mind.

 

Good riddens, damned butthurt moderators.

  GODGANONDORF

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Leave others try you dont have the right to stop'em

3/28/13 1:57:59 AM#40
make it free to play or buy to play i go in continue with suscription well simply watch it die sadly

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