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  MysteryB

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OP  3/25/13 6:00:54 PM#1
I mean its Cryptic Studios guys, Jack Emmert's first game was City of Heroes, he made it great than fucked it up and split to make Champions Online which had to go free to play after 1 year and wasnt a hit in the least, than lets not forget Star Trek Online which could have  been so much more besides semi-fun space combat, and now people are wondering why Neverwinter isnt the game they thought it would be. I played last beta weekend, not impressed, nor was I expecting to be, because its Cryptic Studios and they fuck things up.

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  Doogiehowser

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3/25/13 6:02:54 PM#2

I am actually surprised that this game turned out to be so much fun. And this is not the same Cryptic Studio that you know when they were under Atari.

But other than your hate for cryptic..could you explain and elobrate on points why NW sucks?.

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  Aerowyn

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3/25/13 6:05:54 PM#3
i was impressed.. good graphics(aside from some character models), fun combat(on the rogue), pretty fun pvp, very fun dungeons, played some pretty neat foundry quests.. all and all pretty happy. Some things are a let down for me.. I don't like the feel of the ranged classes at all and the guardian blocking felt a bit off compared to the lancer in tera.. great weapon fighter I just didn't like at all.. some animations need work epecially the female running ones... but all in all its my favorite cryptic game yet

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  Perjure

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3/25/13 6:07:53 PM#4
Yeah, the game is a typical Cryptic MMO. It is nostalgic for me, with the graphics circa 2006 and all, but not good enough to pay for it. Turbine's DDO is better than this IMHO - and that's not saying much.
  MysteryB

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OP  3/25/13 6:10:57 PM#5

There are 20 reviews of why this game sucks on these forums, heres some things i found 

 

- Combat feels 15 years old, this isnt an Everquest remake give us somethings new

- UI is shit

-PvP is not fun in the least 

-MMOs pull you in, you really feel like you need to login to this game?

 

ONLY good thing is the graphics arent bad, but why play a game that isnt fun, play a little more you will agree with me and the thousands that are finding out every weekend this game is outdated before its release and will FAIL worse than Final Fantasy XIV

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  Doogiehowser

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3/25/13 6:17:21 PM#6
Originally posted by MysteryB

There are 20 reviews of why this game sucks on these forums, heres some things i found 

 

- Combat feels 15 years old, this isnt an Everquest remake give us somethings new

- UI is shit

-PvP is not fun in the least 

-MMOs pull you in, you really feel like you need to login to this game?

 

ONLY good thing is the graphics arent bad, but why play a game that isnt fun, play a little more you will agree with me and the thousands that are finding out every weekend this game is outdated before its release and will FAIL worse than Final Fantasy XIV

I don't remember having action combat in any MMO 15 years back. if you are going to make a point atleast do it without exaggeration.

UI is shit....ehmm...well thanks for elaborating on that.

So is that it? did you even play the game or just going by what you read in those 20 reviews about the game? i played it lot more than just a 'little' and i disagree with everything you said not that you had much to say here.

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  Torvaldr

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3/25/13 6:18:52 PM#7
Originally posted by MysteryB

There are 20 reviews of why this game sucks on these forums, heres some things i found 

 

- Combat feels 15 years old, this isnt an Everquest remake give us somethings new

- UI is shit

-PvP is not fun in the least 

-MMOs pull you in, you really feel like you need to login to this game?

 

ONLY good thing is the graphics arent bad, but why play a game that isnt fun, play a little more you will agree with me and the thousands that are finding out every weekend this game is outdated before its release and will FAIL worse than Final Fantasy XIV

I'm not surprised that you posted this but given the quality and depth of thought (or lack of) put into these threads they're mostly just meaningless.

There's always 20 reviews by players who think they have some special insight to share, but then go on to actually say nothing of any real value.  Look at your posts.  You didn't really say anything thought worthy.  There's nothing to even discuss.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Aerowyn

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3/25/13 6:20:01 PM#8
Originally posted by MysteryB

There are 20 reviews of why this game sucks on these forums, heres some things i found 

 

- Combat feels 15 years old, this isnt an Everquest remake give us somethings new

- UI is shit

-PvP is not fun in the least 

-MMOs pull you in, you really feel like you need to login to this game?

 

ONLY good thing is the graphics arent bad, but why play a game that isnt fun, play a little more you will agree with me and the thousands that are finding out every weekend this game is outdated before its release and will FAIL worse than Final Fantasy XIV

i'm in alpha and played good amount of the game.. with the foundry it is a very fun game overall.. i know its hard to believe not everyone has the same views on games as you..

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  Kyleran

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3/25/13 6:21:37 PM#9
Well, cryptic and PW are not companies that I associate with making MMOs that I enjoy, so not really too surprised.

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  Talonsin

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3/25/13 6:28:11 PM#10
Like all Cryptic games, they seem fun when you first start playing but seem to quickly lose their luster over the first month.  I will be jumping in to try it out at launch for free but I would recommend to fellow gamers to play it for a week or two first before deciding to spend a dime on the game.  Lots of people liked STO when it was released but by day 30 had decided to unsub.
  LifeEnder

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3/25/13 6:29:27 PM#11
All cryptic games are shallow .
  Tindale111

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3/25/13 6:34:50 PM#12
there was a voting poll earlier today and when i checked was doing pretty well i only got a chance to play sunday afternoon but my 1st impressions was that it was a pretty good game i liked the graphic style tho i know not to everybodys taste if you dont like the game fair enough but so much hate really!!!
  Ryowulf

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3/25/13 6:35:09 PM#13
I've warmed to the game a lot. I can see myself buying stuff, like a companion.  My biggest problem with Neverwinter is deciding whether to play a GWF or a thief.
  Drakynn

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3/25/13 6:37:01 PM#14
NW is the greatest Cryptic game since they sold the rights to CoX to NCSoft just after Jack Emmert's "Power Poliferation " left Paragon Studios  a lot of work to fix(Probably what the OP is referring to).
  Purutzil

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3/25/13 6:37:02 PM#15

Well someone has a deep hatred for Cryptic that they make up reasons why they think its bad without giving a single bit of proof of it.

 

Grats on showing your bias against a company. Obviously you just have no clue about anything at all and have no good input. I couldn't trust anything you post to have any value to it at all anymore and shouldn't even try it, assuming you don't know what your doing.

 

... and that above I just mentioned is a good replication of what you are doing to cryptic, applied to you instead. Sounded a bit of a poor reason to make judgements doesn't it? Try it, play it, and give thoughtful input rather then making brash judgements about something with nothing to back it up.

  Burntvet

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3/25/13 6:37:36 PM#16
Originally posted by LifeEnder
All cryptic games are shallow .

 

This. ^^ Cryptic is also the worst company around for making games that crap on popular IPs. Looks like they will be 2 for 2 with Neverwinter in that department. Do those people even know what D&D is? I seriously doubt it. Just like they left out 90% of what makes Star Trek, Star Trek in STO, they totally missed the boat on both the D&D feel and the Neverwinter setting. Too bad.
  Varthander

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3/25/13 6:43:33 PM#17
Originally posted by MysteryB

There are 20 reviews of why this game sucks on these forums, heres some things i found 

 

- Combat feels 15 years old, this isnt an Everquest remake give us somethings new

- UI is shit

-PvP is not fun in the least 

-MMOs pull you in, you really feel like you need to login to this game?

 

ONLY good thing is the graphics arent bad, but why play a game that isnt fun, play a little more you will agree with me and the thousands that are finding out every weekend this game is outdated before its release and will FAIL worse than Final Fantasy XIV

Reviews are outrated, a bunch of people saying "this is bad, this is good" then other people agree so other people's brain refuse to try it itself because the "reviews" are always correct and of course, reviews know's the taste of everyone's /irony off

In your oppinion, and remember the famous quote, opinions are like belly buttons =)

More of the same.

  McDaniels92

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3/25/13 7:14:06 PM#18

Sorry you didnt like it. I've been playing MMOs for 10 years and I found the combat quite refreshing and fun. This was actually the most fun I've had in a beta since SWG. You should realize the difference between opinion in fact before you post in here. 

 

For every point you just referenced from bad reviews I can find you a review saying those aspects of the game were great... Post your opinion, if you don't like the game thats fine, say so, then move on. Not sure why you're on some kind of vendetta against cryptic studios. A LOT Of people really like this game so if you for whatever reason believe its a complete failure and people are dissappointed I'm sorry but you're just wrong.

Like with ANY game that is ever released there are people who are disappointed and there are people who love it. What makes a game good is completely subjective... welcome to reality...

 

Not sure how anyone could possibly come to the conclusion that combat is like EQ without having some kind of mental defficiency. Combat in this game is actually pretty creative compared to whats industry standard right now and frankly I found it quite enjoyable.

  HorrorScope

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3/25/13 7:53:49 PM#19
Originally posted by Vyce
Yeah, the game is a typical Cryptic MMO. It is nostalgic for me, with the graphics circa 2006 and all, but not good enough to pay for it. Turbine's DDO is better than this IMHO - and that's not saying much.

Then you consider DDO does what it does better then anyone else. So what are we saying?

I was turned off by NWO this weekend, various reasons, plus no reason to burn out on it before release.

I'm not sure it is really as good or even better then Vindictus, C9 or Dragons Nest, mmo's like NWO. All three of those have better action combat. All are too easy. All are two linear. The Foundry is the wild card and that doesn't guarantee quality, but does offer the possibilty of something different.

They have a lot of balance work ahead of them imo and a number of bugs to squash. I wish them the best, because that would benifit my enjoyment. I'm going to play it, how long is the question.

 

  Jyiiga

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3/25/13 8:00:02 PM#20
and you all think I am harsh when I take beef with a single aspect of the game. :p
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