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  snapfusion

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3/30/13 4:26:14 PM#61
Originally posted by Burntvet
Know what this really reminds me of? T-ball for 6-year olds where everyone gets a trophy. Is there any MMO being released this year that did not get an award? All it is, is marketing in another form. "Most Anticipated"? "Most Innovative"? What a crock... all this will do is fuel another round of advertisements for the same old "meh" games that developers are shoveling these days.

 

  strangiato2112

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3/30/13 4:33:39 PM#62
Originally posted by Arcona

 

while ESO does 4 player groups,

 

1.  SWTOR did this already

2.  It is viewed by most as a negative.  groups should be 6+, with 5 barely tolerable, not 4.  Only time a group smaller than 5 is acceptable is if the main group size is bigger and you are just giving a few smaller options for a change of pace.

  redcapp

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3/30/13 5:37:52 PM#63
I really can't understand the hype marvel heroes is getting on this site.  It isn't even an MMO.
  dinos_21

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3/30/13 6:53:24 PM#64
Originally posted by toljar
I'm shocked at the DayZ, with all the negative that game gets from screwing fans over to just not being a great developer. None the less, I hope they do succeed and what they are setting out to do.

I think you are thinking of The War Z

hahaha as soon as i started reading your comment i cracked lauching hahha good one :)

 

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  Ramonski7

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3/30/13 7:09:44 PM#65
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Arcona

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

....

 

 Innovative is innovative, taking something that was done a long time ago is REHASHING OLD IDEAS.

If someone made a new car with a hand crank start, would they call that innovative? No...

But starting your car with voice activation would be right? Even though you're still just starting a car...


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  Eir_S

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3/30/13 7:26:21 PM#66
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Arcona

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

....

One MMORPG?  15 years ago?  Uhhh....... again I ask, what innovations are you talking about that makes TESO so special and Wildstar so unspecial?  Or any other MMO for that matter in comparison to TESO?

4 player groups?  Hey, here's an idea... don't add a 5th person to your group.  Oh, and SWTOR's flashpoints were 4-man.

No raids?  I'm not even going to bother listing all of the MMOs that already do this.

3 side realm vs. realm?  Did DAOC come out 15 years ago?  No, not really.  And then there's Guild Wars 2.

One giant server?  Yeah, that's all instanced and phased, thus separating you into channels anyway....

As for the AI, I think someone else mentioned it, but it bears repeating since you and a friend of mine among others, are so excited over something they have not seen in action.  "Good" is relative on top of that.  How many games since Goldeneye for the N64 have touted "game-changing AI", including MMO's? 

Build your class however you like?  That's the only one I've seen that's even close to being more than just your own personal hype train, and I admit it's the one thing on your list I'm actually excited about. 

And to answer your question...... um... yeah, if one game does it and another does it after, it's still not innovative.  I think you should look up the word and generally not get overhyped.  It'll be less painful if the game isn't good.

  urbanmech

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3/30/13 9:34:42 PM#67
I played Elder Scrolls at PAX East. Kinda really.. meh. The combat is still hotbar centric, with a lot of "wack at each other, until someone dies". Yes you can click to attack instead of auto attack, but thats it. It has none of the Skyrim dynamic combat everyone is thinking it will.
  JRRNeiklot

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3/31/13 6:25:11 AM#68
Neverwinter most anticipated?  I'd rather "anticipate" a kidney stone.
  NobleNerd

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3/31/13 11:48:06 AM#69

  After my play through on beta 3 for Neverwinter I can say it has me wanting more. It is NOT a true D&D game, but what it does do it does well and I enjoyed myself during beta. All though there is much negative for TESO I am still looking forward to actually playing it whenever beta gets around to letting me in :P. I too was hoping to hear more about ArchAge, but maybe they didn't go to this one. Also with Rift looming in the unknown for West users and the East failures maybe Trion isn't the best choice to publish this game in the West. I was glad to see no Defiance mention... played the beta....deleted the game all in one day and now they haven't released yet and they are marketing a DLC package, LOL (can you say greeding the hype and milking the cow).

 All in all I am not overly excited for many games coming out, but it would be nice to have a game that really draws me in and keeps me for longer than a few months.

  DavisFlight

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3/31/13 12:32:16 PM#70
How are games like Dayz considered hybrid MMOs, when they're more like real MMORPGs than games like Elderscrolls Online and other instanced BS?
  goozmania

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3/31/13 12:37:51 PM#71

"The fact that it was such a strong combination of Skyrim-styled combat..."

This quote dumbfounds me. I've not known anyone who enjoyed the combat of Skyrim. Everyone has said that combat was its weakest feature. And if you've ever watched someone playing Skyrim with any kind of melee weapon, you will be bored to tears.

  Bookah

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3/31/13 2:58:50 PM#72
Originally posted by VastoHorde

What about Black Desert Online? It looks better then any of those games listed.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DCNJx_0aQ

 

 woaahh (Not @ pax) but this looks pretty exellent, looks like a new graphic engine. There looking for a wesern pulisher now i guess.

  Eir_S

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3/31/13 3:56:29 PM#73
Originally posted by goozmania

"The fact that it was such a strong combination of Skyrim-styled combat..."

This quote dumbfounds me. I've not known anyone who enjoyed the combat of Skyrim. Everyone has said that combat was its weakest feature. And if you've ever watched someone playing Skyrim with any kind of melee weapon, you will be bored to tears.

I thought I was alone!

  Rogosh

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3/31/13 5:01:24 PM#74
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by goozmania

"The fact that it was such a strong combination of Skyrim-styled combat..."

This quote dumbfounds me. I've not known anyone who enjoyed the combat of Skyrim. Everyone has said that combat was its weakest feature. And if you've ever watched someone playing Skyrim with any kind of melee weapon, you will be bored to tears.

I thought I was alone!

 

Couldnt agree more, the combat was so boring.

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  Etherignis

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3/31/13 5:56:14 PM#75
I want news on BnS, the outlander, repopulation, archeage, cabal 2
  Wizardry

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3/31/13 6:08:00 PM#76
Originally posted by VastoHorde
Also what about Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn?

Well it si PAX EAST AWARDS not open gaming in general.MMORPG already told us the ywere dissappointed in Square's showing at PAx,not that i am surprised,they are big in Japan,not here in N.America.

IMO and i am never afraid to speak my mind becuase i don't kiss ass not make shit up but....

I think Elder Scrolls was a good choice for best of show,imo it is the best game of all of those mentioned.

The other categories , i also don't have a huge problem with.

I do kind of find it tough to say Neverwinter is most anticipated,i get around to alot of sites and i would say this  is not so.However,i myself need to remember this is based ONLY on PAx,so we should all accept thier opinions as i do accept them.

If i were to base opinion just on my opinion,i woudl say no doubt FFXIV blows the doors of of every one of those games excpet maybe Elder Scrolls.We still don't know enough abotu Elder yet to give it a faIr opinion.

 

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  akkedis86

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4/01/13 1:55:22 AM#77
Originally posted by quickthorn
Neverwinter was considered best in show last year, and most anticipated now?  That makes me quite worried for this year's best, TESO.  I've been playing the Neverwinter betas.  DnD choices at present are extremely limited.  It's not an awful game, but it's very linear for a mmo, grouping is badly managed (not preserving instances upon area transition) the score is meh, outdoor graphics are nothing special and there are too many of the tired old 'kill x mobs/fetch x items' quests.  It's passable for a f2p, but then there are a lot of very poor f2p games around.

I'm sure there's something you see, which you do not like. Like I don't like the sub-standard character textures, BUT:

I'm willing to see it over, as this game truly has the best action combat that I have seen in a mmo bar none. Add to that the fun raids, dungeon-crawler quest feel, the atmosphere added by the environment, and the promise of user-created content is good.

 

Sure they can do one or two things, and I don't think there'll be loads of replayability, but this is a nice action packed, not mind-numbingly boring combat system game, and I'll play it for the pve . Atm pvp seems a bit unbalanced, or I'm willing to concede that I maybe just suck at it badly. XD

 

Not to mention Physics, where you interact with a barrel for instance, it's a nice touch to sortof  draw you into the world.

  Lideln

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4/12/13 4:39:28 AM#78
Originally posted by grimfall

The Repopulation was at Pax...

Wildstar does have a lot of innovation... showing a picture of "Hey, let's redo the World of Warcraft Barrens Zone" probably wasn't the best idea of showing the game's innovation.

Couldn't agree more...

Dying for Day Z and TESO btw!

  Illyssia

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4/12/13 5:20:08 AM#79
Originally posted by Lideln
Originally posted by grimfall

The Repopulation was at Pax...

Wildstar does have a lot of innovation... showing a picture of "Hey, let's redo the World of Warcraft Barrens Zone" probably wasn't the best idea of showing the game's innovation.

Couldn't agree more...

Dying for Day Z and TESO btw!

I think TESO will be a blast as they are going in the right direction with an MMO with no raiding, 4 player PvE dungeons and 3 faction PvP. Result is a neat PvP-centric mmo, where the PvE doesn't demand large guilds.

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