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  quickthorn

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3/26/13 8:29:23 AM#41
Neverwinter was considered best in show last year, and most anticipated now?  That makes me quite worried for this year's best, TESO.  I've been playing the Neverwinter betas.  DnD choices at present are extremely limited.  It's not an awful game, but it's very linear for a mmo, grouping is badly managed (not preserving instances upon area transition) the score is meh, outdoor graphics are nothing special and there are too many of the tired old 'kill x mobs/fetch x items' quests.  It's passable for a f2p, but then there are a lot of very poor f2p games around.
  JerYnkFan

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3/26/13 9:51:11 AM#42
Originally posted by grimfall

The Repopulation was at Pax...

Wildstar does have a lot of innovation... showing a picture of "Hey, let's redo the World of Warcraft Barrens Zone" probably wasn't the best idea of showing the game's innovation.

The Repopulation was, but when I went to the booth on Saturday, I could barely get the Dev to even show me the character creator nevermind anything else.

  FromHell

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3/26/13 10:00:02 AM#43
Originally posted by Mannish

What about Black Desert Online? It looks better then any of those games listed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DCNJx_0aQ

That my friend, is the 100 million dollar question.

Also:

what about World of Darkness?

what about ArcheAge?

 

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  Allacore69

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3/26/13 1:21:29 PM#44
Neverwinter for the win

  1dragonspell

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3/26/13 10:09:12 PM#45

BEST OF SHOW Yessss way to go E

SO ;-)

  gillrmn

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3/27/13 6:14:04 AM#46
Might as well call Neverwinter 'Most annoyingly anticipated'. 2009 - it was announced and then remade ... come on realease date! Don't elude us so much!
  gillrmn

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3/27/13 6:18:41 AM#47
Originally posted by quickthorn
....  DnD choices at present are extremely limited.  It's not an awful game, but it's very linear for a mmo, .
 

You did not play my foundry quest "Maiden in the Moon"? It was completely non-linear, lot of choices and youchose what you play.

The reason official quests are linear because MMO players want linear games. But with foundry you can make extremely nonlinear quests like a snap.

Regarding graphics, cryptic games are very bad in detecting optimal settings. Graphics are decent otherwise, you have to check under your hood.

The skin tone color used for characters are a bit bright like cartoons though.

 
  Arcona

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3/27/13 11:56:45 AM#48

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

  Rogosh

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3/27/13 10:25:26 PM#49
Wildstar has innovations in Housing, warplots, combat and the path system to name a few.

"Its better to look ugly and win than pretty and lose"

  JasonJ

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Joined: 3/19/13
Posts: 414

3/27/13 10:51:13 PM#50
Originally posted by Arcona

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

 Wait, so if a game does 3 player groups that makes it innovative? No. No raids? not the first MMO without them. Build your class however you want? Nope, TSW and even Asherons Call did that 15 years ago. 3 sided RvR, old and outdated. Giant server except when you count those instances, erm, I mean campaigns which actually places people on different servers... Good AI? Really? have you SEEN IT YET? No...and THAT is why its not the most innovative, because it isnt.

  furbans

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3/27/13 10:58:48 PM#51

The only reason why Neverwinter is the most anticipated is because, like BW with SWTOR, they are relying on a renowned IP to carry out their sales.  I've done all the betas and Neverwitner I forsee many catering to because its D&D, FR, and its the new shiney but many will leave quickly.  I was actually yawning in their beta.  Neverwinter will have a niche crowd like STO but certainly not an all this or that game.  I like all my guildmates that tries Neverwitner will be sticking to DDO with Neverwinter as a distraction now n then.  When Wildstar or ESO hits the scene expect the exudos.

Most anticipated any yet its ranked pretty low on the hype meter here...

  Eir_S

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3/28/13 4:14:24 PM#52
Originally posted by Arcona

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

  Arcona

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3/29/13 9:41:15 AM#53
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Arcona

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

....

  jtcgs

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3/30/13 9:50:55 AM#54

"Best of the show Nominees – WildStar, Marvel Heroes Online, FireFall, NeverWinter, Elder Scrolls Online"

Guess that explains how TESO won...best of the meh!

 BTW Arcone...Innovative is innovative. Doing something that hasnt been done in years is rehashing old ideas.
 
Its like saying you invented the lightbulb, because no one else invented it again in the last 100 years...

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  jtcgs

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3/30/13 9:55:38 AM#55
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Arcona

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

Most, if not all, of the things you listed from ESO aren't innovations.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

okay, if one mmorpg did them 15 years ago, its not innovative, even though the 5000 mmorpgs that came after did not do them?

....

 

 Innovative is innovative, taking something that was done a long time ago is REHASHING OLD IDEAS.

If someone made a new car with a hand crank start, would they call that innovative? No...

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  waynejr2

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RIP City of Heroes!

3/30/13 1:33:17 PM#56
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Mannish

What about Black Desert Online? It looks better then any of those games listed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DCNJx_0aQ

That my friend, is the 100 million dollar question.

Also:

what about World of Darkness?

what about ArcheAge?

 

 Did those games go to pax?  If not, what do they have to hide that they don't want people to see at pax?

  zellmer

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3/30/13 1:54:40 PM#57

Dayz and Warz can just disappear into nothingness for all I care anyore..

But indeed Marvel Heroes is surprisingly fun and addictive even though it's nothing like you would probably expect out of a 'super hero game".

A lot of the other ones are still a coin flip really. 

  User Deleted
3/30/13 2:05:24 PM#58
Originally posted by Arcona

Most innovative? hmm

Wildstar seems to take on classic MMORPG features

while ESO does 4 player groups, no raids, build your class however you like, 3 sided Realm vs realm, one giant server, and finally makes a good AI. This time the NPCs will really work together. Not just the scripted ones.

What innovations did wildstar do?

 

Anarchy Online ,one gigantic server,  3 sided realm, neuts vs omnis vs clans,PvP allmost everywhere real world pvp,stupid instance pvp added later and many PvPrs left the game.

not so sure about those ESO  *innovations*

 

 

  Fusion

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3/30/13 2:49:48 PM#59
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by Abefroman
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uh and out of the competition listed, you would have picked .....?

Definitely Wildstar

Currently playing: ESO

Waiting for: Class4.

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  Vannor

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3/30/13 3:22:40 PM#60

TESO is a maybe, DayZ is an aquired taste...

Other than that.. looks like a whole load of rubbish to me.

Neverwinter destroyed my dreams (thankfully I didn't have to pay for it). Marvel Heroes is just.. kinda.. pointless. Many, and mean MANY, people are going to be very let down by MH. Wildstar looks like a clone and will be treated as one (by me) until it proves otherwise.

 
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