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  tuppe99

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Joined: 12/16/05
Posts: 249

 
OP  3/25/13 12:56:54 PM#1

I admit that I have not been following GW2 at all since I was busy levelling up in MoP, but now since it has been 3 months since I unsubbed WoW, I am looking for a new home.

I am a casual player and an explorer by heart and I love doing my own thing in my own time. I don't have time for raids and will rarely do any group dungeons.

So, does this game have:

1.) Reputation grinding

2.) Mandatory daily quests (I hate dailies)

3.) Is there content for when I want to go off the beaten path?

4.) Are professions fun and viable? Crafting is usually my main source of gear since I don't do dungeons

5.) Sometimes I like just to grind mobs for loot and money. Is that viable?

6.) Is this a world that I can "live" in, do my own thing or am I always part of a greater story?

 

Thanks!

  cinos

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Joined: 8/22/05
Posts: 975

3/25/13 1:01:25 PM#2

This game is made for casual players.

1) No reputation grinding.

2) Optional Dailies. Which take about 30 minutes to complete whereby you can pick 5 objectives from a list.

3) Yes.

4) This is a subjective one but I like them and you can get max lvl gear just by crafting. Except for Ascended stuff but there are murmerings that this might be added at some point (there are checkboxes for them now, but no recipies as yet).

5) Sure. Likely best to do World events if you are into that. Guaranteed rare drops and nice money from drops.

6) Not sure I can answer this one. This is likely entirely up to you. It's not a sandbox though, if that's what you are asking. :)

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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3/25/13 1:04:41 PM#3
Originally posted by tuppe99

I admit that I have not been following GW2 at all since I was busy levelling up in MoP, but now since it has been 3 months since I unsubbed WoW, I am looking for a new home.

I am a casual player and an explorer by heart and I love doing my own thing in my own time. I don't have time for raids and will rarely do any group dungeons.

So, does this game have:

1.) Reputation grinding

Nope. The closest would be Karma, and unlocking the vendors is very short, you only have to complete one task, which you can most of the time choose among several.

2.) Mandatory daily quests (I hate dailies)

No "mandatory" dailies. You have daily achievements, which change every day, and even better, you can choose 5 out of the many so you don't have to do them all. And even without doing the dailies, you are still fully operational.

3.) Is there content for when I want to go off the beaten path?

Definitely, that's one of the strongest point of GW2. Exploration is encouraged. Hidden places, puzzles, dungeons, large underground areas, you have those all over the place. Also, every cave is unique and handcrafted, unlike some other games like WoW where copy/paste was abused.

4.) Are professions fun and viable? Crafting is usually my main source of gear since I don't do dungeons

You can get Exotic gear only with crafting, which is more than enough to be competitive in any aspect of the game. Crafting is definitely fun and viable in GW2.

5.) Sometimes I like just to grind mobs for loot and money. Is that viable?

For loot and money, yes, but you will have to move. There are anti-gold-farmer mechanics which reduce loot for those who stick to one place. But if you are a living player behind the keyboard, you should have no problem with that.

It's also worth noticing that you will earn more money exploring the maps and doing the random events you encounter than staying in one place killing the same mobs over and over again.

6.) Is this a world that I can "live" in, do my own thing or am I always part of a greater story?

Without any doubt. GW2 is among the most casual friendly MMORPGs on the market. You are never FORCED to do anything.

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  tuppe99

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Joined: 12/16/05
Posts: 249

 
OP  3/25/13 1:11:06 PM#4
That sounds really nice. I will definitely give it a go now. Thanks!
  Siphaed

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Joined: 1/17/08
Posts: 743

3/25/13 1:45:02 PM#5
Originally posted by tuppe99

I admit that I have not been following GW2 at all since I was busy levelling up in MoP, but now since it has been 3 months since I unsubbed WoW, I am looking for a new home.

I am a casual player and an explorer by heart and I love doing my own thing in my own time. I don't have time for raids and will rarely do any group dungeons.

So, does this game have:

1.) Reputation grinding

2.) Mandatory daily quests (I hate dailies)

3.) Is there content for when I want to go off the beaten path?

4.) Are professions fun and viable? Crafting is usually my main source of gear since I don't do dungeons

5.) Sometimes I like just to grind mobs for loot and money. Is that viable?

6.) Is this a world that I can "live" in, do my own thing or am I always part of a greater story?

 

Thanks!

1) There's no griding for reputation with specific factions.   Although if you're wanting a specific dungeon gear set, items, or Asceneded gear, than there will be repitition with doing specific dungeons or Fractals to do so.  However, it's still no where near as tediously boring as WoW's is.

 

2) Dailies are not "manditory", however they are there.  But, they're not in a "quest" form where you have to accept them and have them logged.  They're automatically there for you to have at the daily reset, tally towards-goal effort automatically, and reward upon completion automatically too.   The best thing is, that they have so many different things to them, that they're usually completed within less than an hour of normal gameplay.

 

3)There's TONS of content "off the beaten path".  Vex's Lab, for one such example, is hidden in a lava flow cave on the side of a volcano; it's a dungeon-puzzle area with really cool intergrated mechanics and an M.C. Escher room.  Jumping puzzles, exploratin Vista points, and others can be found throughout Tyria.

 

4) Crafting is fun, and viable.  It speeds up if you do multiples, rather than being very slow (no artificial time contraints like subbed games like WoW).  They're all 100% required for a Legendary weapon if you're wanting one at the late game.

 

5) Not so much.  Now, if you're grinding mobs within a dynamic event, than yes.  Because when the event ends, you get rewarded, a lot.  That's where the money is.  But no, it's not viable to sit in a forest killing tons of boars all day.

 

6) You can live in the world, do mostly your own thing, sure.  But, there is a greater story involved with the Personal Story line related to the Zhitan saga.  If you don't want that, don't want to be the hero (though that asshole Trahern steals all your thunder anyways), then you don't have to.  You can just go from zone to zone, area to area doing Dynamic Events and Heart objectives.  Or, you could just spend all your time in World vs World, being one of a 1,000+ soldiers on your side; just more meat for the grinder.  Your choice, your path, you decide how you want to play.  You're not forced at all.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2549

3/25/13 3:21:17 PM#6

Just as an example the daily list for today consist of nine items that include stuff like:

Get 50 kills,

Get 25 underwater kills,

Complete 4 events in the maguuma jungle,

20 gatherings,

10 dodges.

Daily crafter,

Discover 3 jumping puzzles (don't need to complete them),

Do 1 story dungeon,

Destroy 5 caravans in WvW.

 

One will easily complete 3 or 4 while playing regularly and will only have to then look to the list to finish it.

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  Purutzil

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Posts: 2797

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3/25/13 3:29:58 PM#7
Originally posted by tuppe99

So, does this game have:

1.) Reputation grinding

2.) Mandatory daily quests (I hate dailies)

3.) Is there content for when I want to go off the beaten path?

4.) Are professions fun and viable? Crafting is usually my main source of gear since I don't do dungeons

5.) Sometimes I like just to grind mobs for loot and money. Is that viable?

6.) Is this a world that I can "live" in, do my own thing or am I always part of a greater story?

 

Thanks!

1.) No,token grinding if you want certain gear which can be as long as rep grinding, but optional at the very least...

2.) Yes... of course like other games you can ignore it but they are there as 'daily achievements' which can be quite annoying. Again not 'needed' but like on the other games, they are pretty much important if you want to make some headway in earning something.

3.) Sort of? There isn't really a pre-set path or anything so you can go where you want, just note that lower level content will NOT level you as fast,  so your best of doing stuff for your 'actual' level. 

4.) Sort of? You do get the best gear (or what use to be) from crafting. It can get a little annoying with mats but you can buy them off the AH pretty easy (least if the bots are still teleporting around selling it and pushing their prices low, sorry not playing to know) and the cooking system has shown a perhaps not fully realized crafting system that could have been amazing if done fully. Over-all the crafting is alright, cooking was somewhat fun though others were... eh, not bad.

5.) Oh yeah, thats pretty much one of the very FEW things you can do to get money. Just note grinding you need to run laps around a zone, you can't stay in one place or you get less things (unless they changed this)

6.) Not sure what you mean. If your meaning like main storyline? That exists and the reward might be tempting but eh... I'd highly recomend agianst it, or just doing it to the Orr part since there is some good parts to it I do enjoy enough to negate the terrible portions. After that one 'part' though its just down hill and quickly becomes stale when the tree guy comes into the mix later on in a rather forced manor. 

If your meaning events and all effecting things, then yeah, they do kind of pop up a lot which can mildly be distracting in orr, and even disruptive if theres no zergs doing it.

 

Over-all... eh I'd highly suggest trying it out first. Get to about level 10 (30 if possible) and you pretty much have exactly what your going to be doing the entire time combat wise. Its not very in depth to say the least but as a casual game I can see it being alright. If you don't like the combat system (Personally I sit here) then your probably not going to find the game too enjoyable. It could DEFINENTLY use more but it seems like they are at least adding a bit more to the game, but still for me its lacking enough to really recomend. Always best to try it yourself though. Its at least a decent game, even if it is a bit over-rated.

  observer

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Joined: 2/17/05
Posts: 2066

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3/25/13 3:40:42 PM#8
Originally posted by tuppe99

I admit that I have not been following GW2 at all since I was busy levelling up in MoP, but now since it has been 3 months since I unsubbed WoW, I am looking for a new home.

I am a casual player and an explorer by heart and I love doing my own thing in my own time. I don't have time for raids and will rarely do any group dungeons.

So, does this game have:

1.) Reputation grinding

No reputation to gain, but there will be ranks for pvp, and titles to earn for pve.

2.) Mandatory daily quests (I hate dailies)

They just added more dailies recently, but they aren't required. They do give some loot though that you might want.  You now can select which 5 dailies to do as opposed to having to do them all, as it was before.  There are also monthly achievements to do.

3.) Is there content for when I want to go off the beaten path?

Yes. Definitely.  You can literally explore everywhere if you want, although there are some spots that aren't accessible.  There are some areas that are well hidden too.

4.) Are professions fun and viable? Crafting is usually my main source of gear since I don't do dungeons

Yes. Crafting is viable.  I did it with my Ranger that had Leatherworking and Huntsman.  You can craft gear as you level up and it's just as good as Karma loot or loot drops.  This depends on the quality of the product crafted though, for example,  Blue -> Green -> Yellow -> Orange.

5.) Sometimes I like just to grind mobs for loot and money. Is that viable?

Yes.  Definitely.  This is how all those gold farmers get their gold.  They just farm events and kill mobs 24/7, loot them, then sell on Trading Post.

6.) Is this a world that I can "live" in, do my own thing or am I always part of a greater story?

That depends.  Are you looking for a "community" of roleplayers?  or housing? etc?  You can ignore the story completely.  This is what i do with new alts.

 

Thanks!

 

  Homitu

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Joined: 10/01/09
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3/25/13 3:59:46 PM#9
Originally posted by tuppe99

I admit that I have not been following GW2 at all since I was busy levelling up in MoP, but now since it has been 3 months since I unsubbed WoW, I am looking for a new home.

I am a casual player and an explorer by heart and I love doing my own thing in my own time. I don't have time for raids and will rarely do any group dungeons.

So, does this game have:

1.) Reputation grinding

2.) Mandatory daily quests (I hate dailies)

3.) Is there content for when I want to go off the beaten path?

4.) Are professions fun and viable? Crafting is usually my main source of gear since I don't do dungeons

5.) Sometimes I like just to grind mobs for loot and money. Is that viable?

6.) Is this a world that I can "live" in, do my own thing or am I always part of a greater story?

 

Thanks!

All I can say is omg is this game made for you.

1) There's no reputation grinding.  The only thing I can think of that is similar playing for karma, which is a currency used to purchase specific in game items.  You're awarded karma for participating in events anywhere in the game.  Unless you're working toward a legendary weapon, this isn't anything you ever have to grind.  

2) There are dailies, but there's nothing mandatory about them.  You're basically given 8 categories of things to do every day, and you must complete 5 of them to earn your daily chest.  These can range from the mundane like kill 50 aquatic enemies or complete 4 events in Ascalon to the exotic like force 5 fumbles in Keg Brawl (a mini game in the Norn city) or discover 3 new jumping puzzles.  The cool thing is you can usually do these anywhere you want.  You have a favorite zone that you fell in love with while leveling?  Go back there to complete your dailies!

3) This game is made for explorers.  Map completion is a very addicting and fun progression component to leveling.  Any given map has dozens of points of interest, vistas, waypoints, and renown hearts you have to discover to earn 100% map completion (after which you'll be given a reward.)  The game loosely guides you to many of these, but some of them can be quite challenging to discover.  On top of that, there is usually a jumping puzzle (or 2) in every zone, which isn't marked on the map at all.  There's nothing more exciting than crawling through a cave at the end of a stream in the middle of a lush jungle to discover you're suddenly inside a huge cavernous volcano.  

4) I had a blast with crafting in GW2.  It became my primary motivator to level more alts.  Crafting is not only viable, it's strongly recommended while leveling.  It can fully supply you with the best gear throughout the leveling process while giving you massive amounts of exp. 

5) What game is grinding mobs for loot not viable?  You can solo.  There are mobs.  Mobs drop loot.  It's viable :)

6) Can't really answer this last one.  It sounds mostly like a personal RP thing.  By all means, sit in the main city and craft for people.  I did that for an entire week when the trading post first came up after being down for the first week.  If you participate in your personal story, however, you are the hero in standard fashion.  

  Maephisto

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3/25/13 4:23:48 PM#10

OP,

If you are an explorer and like to take your time, others have stated they had a lot of fun by turning off all the map icons so the world seems more natural.  More "explorer" friendly.

Furthermore, the people above know what they are talking about, you can trust thier opinion.

EDIT:  For #5, you will want to read up on Magic find and other food buffs that increase gold drop percentage.

  Kaleston

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3/26/13 3:28:38 AM#11

I add my 2 cents. There is not much to add really :)

I'd like to emphasize, there are dailies, but you usually do them while playing without really trying to do them. They are not very specific tasks (like daily quests in wow), they are pretty much stuff you do anyway, so it's kind of free bonus :) And even if you don't finish them... you don't loose much.

Another aspect of casuality of gw2 is gear. You don't have to grind for your gear. You can loot or craft your exotics and that's pretty much top gear you can have (there is ascended gear, but it's only a few % stronger then exotics, so no big deal at all). This is very strong point for me in gw2. Server is not going to run from you, you don't have to go on dungeon raids or something to feel competitive to rest of crowd. And if you ever find yourself wanting to visit dungeon (for example for story missions), you can do that without grinding "lower level" of dungeon.

  tuppe99

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OP  3/26/13 4:51:47 AM#12

Thanks for all the replies :)

 

I am playing it now and it is quite good, but a little too busy. I am just walking and things just keep on popping up on the UI, sometimes they pop up and disappear before I realise what it was all about. Just now some yellow square with some text popped up, but vanished before I could read what it was all about.

Any way I can disable all these notifications?

  Dogblaster

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3/26/13 4:53:37 AM#13
Originally posted by cinos

This game is made for casual players.

Sadly have to agree ..  as hardcore mmorpg player.

  Gaia_Hunter

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3/26/13 7:37:52 AM#14
Originally posted by tuppe99

Thanks for all the replies :)

 

I am playing it now and it is quite good, but a little too busy. I am just walking and things just keep on popping up on the UI, sometimes they pop up and disappear before I realise what it was all about. Just now some yellow square with some text popped up, but vanished before I could read what it was all about.

Any way I can disable all these notifications?

You shouldn't have many notifications.

You will generally get the

"New event nearby" notification. If there is a new event it will then show in the top right screen. Sometimes it is just the meta event notification, so you will only see the box with but there might be nothing happened.

You will also see a big envelope the first time you finish a heart quest.

Remember whenever you finish a heart quest the NPC will send you a letter with some money that shows on the bottem left part of it, so remember to take it.

You will also see yellow text when you uncover a new area so that is just the name of the area.

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  drbaltazar

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3/26/13 7:44:44 AM#15

it is very vanilla wow ish!i suggest you play char or norn!(they world event is going on there so you wont have to move too far!

as for content!there is stuff for everybody.also remember this:this is very important!

nothing is as it looks to be!just because you dont see anything doesnt mean there isnt anything to do!look harder.check the time you got in said zone sometime content is avail only at specific hours  of day,month ,year!aside from this ?its a great game!tera is also cool from what i hear.you also have the secret world that use the same pricing model as arenanet!and it is half cheaper so you cant got wrong!

  botrytis

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3/26/13 7:54:10 AM#16
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Originally posted by cinos

This game is made for casual players.

Sadly have to agree ..  as hardcore mmorpg player.

I consider myself hardcore but I really like this game.

 

If you mean NEEDS TO HAVE RAIDS, UBER GEAR, etc. - then this game is not for you.

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
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  botrytis

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3/26/13 7:55:00 AM#17
Originally posted by drbaltazar

it is very vanilla wow ish!i suggest you play char or norn!(they world event is going on there so you wont have to move too far!

as for content!there is stuff for everybody.also remember this:this is very important!

nothing is as it looks to be!just because you dont see anything doesnt mean there isnt anything to do!look harder.check the time you got in said zone sometime content is avail only at specific hours  of day,month ,year!aside from this ?its a great game!tera is also cool from what i hear.you also have the secret world that use the same pricing model as arenanet!and it is half cheaper so you cant got wrong!

Not Vanilla WoW - I really dislike this type of opinion.

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
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  kpshyazn

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3/26/13 9:54:39 AM#18

Since you stated that you like to "explore"... I would recommend that you "listen" to these npcs.  Especially after a dynamic event.  Sometimes, there will be a "chain" of events that occur after one.  Less common in the lower level areas, but still can happen.

Listen to the world around you and take your time~

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3/26/13 12:19:07 PM#19
Originally posted by tuppe99

I admit that I have not been following GW2 at all since I was busy levelling up in MoP, but now since it has been 3 months since I unsubbed WoW, I am looking for a new home.

I am a casual player and an explorer by heart and I love doing my own thing in my own time. I don't have time for raids and will rarely do any group dungeons.

So, does this game have:

1.) Reputation grinding

2.) Mandatory daily quests (I hate dailies)

3.) Is there content for when I want to go off the beaten path?

4.) Are professions fun and viable? Crafting is usually my main source of gear since I don't do dungeons

5.) Sometimes I like just to grind mobs for loot and money. Is that viable?

6.) Is this a world that I can "live" in, do my own thing or am I always part of a greater story?

 

Thanks!

1. Sort of. There are tokens for each of the dungeons/ PVP/Karma. They work a lot like the other various forms of currency WoW implemented to purchase specific armor and weapons.

2. Depends on how you define mandatory. You can opt not to do the daily. But it's there to be done and it gives a significant amount of Karma for completing them. I find most people do them. There is a list of 5 tasks to complete every day. You can choose 5 from a list, but for most people , you can chose 5 from 6 or 7 that you would most likely do. Some are easier than others, but they are all doable.

3. The short answer is "yes"

4. The class design is fun for sure. Yeah, there are balance issues, but they are all fun. Crafting overall needs to be tweaked. It has it's purposes but for the most part, the best function it has is to get 10 levelsof experience. Otherwise the only reason to craft is the enjoyment of it. But it will mostly cost you more money to make an item than what you could buy the mats with or if you already have them, sell the mats and buy the item while profiting from the difference.

5. Yes

6. Yes

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  Quizzical

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3/26/13 12:54:07 PM#20

Guild Wars 2 is more casual-friendly than most MMORPGs.  Guild Wars 2 including what you do at the level cap is about as casual-friendly as WoW excluding what you do at the level cap.  And WoW's endgame is, of course, terribly unfriendly to casuals.  ("Now you must schedule your life around the game in order to proceed" is nearly the definition of "casuals can't do this".)

1)  No, there are no reputations to grind.

2)  There are dailies, which mainly give you karma.  You can do them or not.  You'll sometimes finish your dailies in the normal course of playing the game without going out of your way to do a daily.  I think the only real disadvantage of not doing dailies is that you won't have a bunch of karma for exotic armors when you hit the level cap.  But there are other ways to get exotics.

3)  There is content basically everywhere in the game, whether hearts, dynamic events, crafting nodes, or just random mobs to fight.

4)  Viable as a way to get gear, yes.  Fun, no.  If WoW is the comparison, then Guild Wars 2's crafting system is vastly better than WoW's.  But that's not saying much.  There are games that don't have a crafting system at all that still have a crafting system better than WoW's.

But you'll get random gear drops just by playing the game, even without doing dungeons.  So don't think that you need to craft as the only way to get good gear.  Rather, crafting is more useful as a way to say, I've got a bunch of the gear I need from random drops, but nothing good for this particular slot, so I'll craft something to fill it.

5)  You can, but I wouldn't recommend it.  Guild Wars 2 encourages you to move around for map completion or dynamic events, not stay in one place grinding forever.  If you're looking for a game that makes finding a handful of optimal loot spots, grinding them endlessly, and ignoring the other 95% of the game into the optimal strategy, then there would be a lot of other MMORPGs more amenable to that than Guild Wars 2.  But if that's what you're looking for, I'd strongly question your claims of being a casual player.

6)  There are storylines, but you can participate in them or ignore them as much as you want.

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