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  Shamorau

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3/25/13 8:13:57 PM#21
i thought in one of the those pictures was Urdnot Wrex.
  Wickedjelly

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3/25/13 8:45:33 PM#22

Slightly misguided? Wtf?

Is that like saying the captain of the Titanic slightly misnavigated?

Kudos for those still playing should be a nice addition for them. For many others though would imagine it is too little...too late...or maybe just too little all the way around.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Incomparable

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3/26/13 1:26:00 AM#23

I think at this point they realize what kind of market they have attracted to thier game and can only focus the constant stream of content to please one major demographic.

They decided in all thier wisdom, that the constant content should be feeding the content grinders of MMOs. Just give them more content, and it doesn't even need the same quality features as before.

Its unfortunate that this is being done with a SW MMO. Otherwise, moving on to something else would be the natural choice for anyone, but if they like SW enough, and also like the basic features of swtor, then seeing it change and go downhill from there, is not something easy for committed fans to see.

I expect a lot of people to begin growing a resentment towards gaming in general as they feel that this grind is simply a grind taking up their time, and money.

And due to making enough content for content grinders this game will do well enough, until even the content grinders become bored. 

I think the major flaw in making MMOs content grinds is that its not diversidifed from the best content grind out there... and that is WoW. 

The success of MMOs unforuntately is attribtued to content being contstant rather than the mechanics that are repeatable. So it seems the urgency by devs is to relese more content of lesser quality and turning into more of the same. 

I could be wrong and at the very least there is a sense of choice with the faction stories, but I would imagine that for people with alts, playing faction stories without even choice would be the definition of a terrible content grind.

If only the people who liked content grinds in games like WoW were not kids. I would call WoW a child factory indenturing kids to 'play' thier grind and WoW clones trying to hire the little gremlin army to peddle their mmo engine out of icy waters.

Its basically the modern day slavery of the first world, and using low quality feautures to make games successful using kids.

At least its better than a kid dying from chimney smoke, hence it being modern, but the losers are not just the kids wasting thier time with long grinds, their social time and developing proper taste with real experience... but also fans of the genre who get misrepresented by what is actually fun for rather being successful due to slavery.

Solution: Make MMOs adult rated.

 

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  daltanious

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3/26/13 4:36:12 AM#24

Along with wow, swtor is my no1 game. Worst problem swtor had since start was not at all swtor itself ... but haters that have spread around even faster then those of wow. They have been bashing game over and over again in all possible forums. Majority never actually I guess played it.

But is truth i know many that do not like at all story telling, they would if possible just jump to end game, etc. Never ever all players will be happy with same game. This is mission impossible.

I love every bit of swtor, immersion, combat, story telling ... and particularly I lOVE VOICED ACTING. Ful voiced acting in all quests (great, but unfort only in starting area, were also of Aoc).

  FromHell

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3/26/13 4:42:44 AM#25
Originally posted by daltanious

. Ful voiced acting in all quests (great, but unfort only in starting area, were also of Aoc).

 wrong. The personal story and many major quests are voiced too after the starter area. At least in the current version, maybe got added over time.

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  Jorendo

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3/26/13 5:52:27 AM#26
Originally posted by daltanious

Along with wow, swtor is my no1 game. Worst problem swtor had since start was not at all swtor itself ... but haters that have spread around even faster then those of wow. They have been bashing game over and over again in all possible forums. Majority never actually I guess played it.

But is truth i know many that do not like at all story telling, they would if possible just jump to end game, etc. Never ever all players will be happy with same game. This is mission impossible.

I love every bit of swtor, immersion, combat, story telling ... and particularly I lOVE VOICED ACTING. Ful voiced acting in all quests (great, but unfort only in starting area, were also of Aoc).

I still play and enjoy SWToR everyday since launch. Now i don't care much for endgame as im a RPer and get my fun out of roleplaying with others. So for me the setting is more important then the actual content when lvl 50. I had a blast playing trough the class quests and i enjoy that all quests are spoken dialouge. Haters been bashing the game rather unfairly in the early days. But it's nothing new, with every new MMORPG you got haters trying to destroy a game cause they favor another game. SWToR had the bad luck of being caught between two giant hater groups, the GW2 fanboys and the WoW fanboys who both attacked SWToR. GW2 fanboy's shouting that GW2 was gonna be a lot better and WoW Faboys shouting SWToR didn't do anything new.

 

SWToR might not be the best MMORPG for most people but it did some things right:

1. It wasn't another generic fantasy setting like almost every other freaking MMO out there.

2. Fully voiced did add a lot. Haters will say it didn't but they either didn't play the game or are those who never bothered with stories and just skip. But i think every MMO should have fully voiced dialouges cause it really helps in keeping it interesting.

3. You got to own your own little place, in SWToR its a ship. They should have given you options to customize it from the inside and do more with it (and once they had those plans until it became F2P). But still you got your own little place that is yours. GW2 has it with the districts.

 

For me SWToR is the first MMORPG that caught my attention for longer then a few months after release since WoW. I played WoW till shortly after Cata came out. I just couldn't settle into other MMO's and i tried. I tried to like AoC but the bugs eventually killed it for me, i wanted to like Warhammer but with no one around anymore and me being in the lower tiers meant no fun pvp so it killed it for me, Aion great on promise with flying was just a gimick bullcrap that was very limited, kiilled it for me. SWToR i been playing since the start as still love it.

 

However i do think Bioware/EA should do more with it and listen to the fans. They promised a huge space expansion that would be patched into the game shortly after release....we never saw it happen. They promised same sex relationships would be patched after release, they canned it just to make it a thing you can do on one planet only (i don't care what people think about same sex relationships, it was a feature that was suppose to be in the game and they just scratched it out just to make a basic version later again that you have to pay for), they promised seats to sit on, more then the three chairs in your space ship. But for some reason they never implanted it in the game. Why can't we sit on chairs i mean wtf? Oh and please don't give me the BS "Who gives a F about chairs to sit on, we want more endgame!" raiders aren't the only type of players okay, there are also RPers and frankly the european RP server has been highly poplulated since day one so one should also please them next to the end gamers and pvpers. Many things that where promised to be added over time never made it and they should do so. More races, more freedom in exploration.

 

What i don't get is that SWToR haters still come to SWToR topics and spill their guts out about how terrible the expension is gonna be. Why would you care? You don't play the game. You never did or only the first month but WoW or GW2 was more appealing (and that is your good right im not saying its wrong). Just return to your own game don't bother us. Let everyone enjoy their own game, no need to whine and cry about a game you don't play. SWtoR is a enjoyable game, it didn't do much to change the MMORPG scene, but so what, not one of the current MMORPG's has done that. Not even GW2, it only did something that do it a little different. But it are mostly things that where normal in MMORPG's before WoW.

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

3/26/13 6:37:42 AM#27
Originally posted by Karteli

It's just more of the same, with a different background scenery.

 

For how this Special Announcement was played up at DarthHater, TorWars, Duffy, and other sites, this news is nothing short of a complete letdown.

 

TORWars said the news was so good that "You'll explode!" .. leading to speculation about engine revamps, open world PVP done right, freeroam space flight .. expansive planets ... immersive features ...

 

But instead the secret message decoded to: "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!"

Actually Darthhater has not stated what got them excited yet

Update:  I want to remind everyone that part of the news I was excited to bring you will start tomorrow morning at around 9AM pacific; this is pretty much complete coverage of the new features from the Closed Test Server, and includes videos for quests and achievements, a ton of new screenshots as well as information on the Seeker Droid and Macrobinocular quests.  So, while many of you weren't surprised by the release date announcement, I think you'll enjoy what you see tomorrow. - Vox

It seems that this MMORPG article has covered the information, and if so, then still meh

 

  Souldrainer

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3/26/13 6:49:27 AM#28
Why is there a Krogan in SWTOR?

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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

3/26/13 7:04:59 AM#29
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Illyssia
I just wonder if Bioware/EA shouldn't use this as a learning curve and go for the Mass Effect MMO. That would be really cool. Especially if they went next gen Xbox/playstation and PC for it. Problem with SWTOR is they designed it as a single player mmorpg that had a small end game. After 6-9 months all the cool kids quit just leaving a game that went F2P and hardcore cash shop.

You certainly are not playing the game. 

I think F2P ruined the game. All it did was bring players back into the game, but the game is not progressing forward enough to keep it populated for 10 years. 2 million bought the game, and by Nov there about 500K subs still left, probably less. The game is not improved in any major way, since release, and while the game is enjoyable for a while (a frew months) it is not long term, unless spend 1 hour per week or something. SWTOR is designed like a single player game, where you play through the story and then have scripted repeataable content to do. P2P MMOs should be designed with tools in game for players to create their own content. STO is not a sandbox like SWG, but it has the foundry, which gets your creativity flowiing and the content is limited only by peoples imaginations. Until EA/BW do something like this then I see the game being dead by the end of the year, like it was last year

SWG was worth every penny of each monthly sub, there were tonnes of things to keep yourself amused without the devs having to do anything. I get much more fun from Dead Space series, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, The Darkness etc as I do from SWTOR which does not have a monthly fee.

The reason I do not like SWTOR is because it is not a MMO I can sink my teeth into for years / forever, but for a few months play time like a single player game I do like it.

SWTOR needs to go fully free, but can not do because of its costs, then it can be viewed more so like a game like Sleeping Dogs. I play and pay to that more than I do SWTOR due to all its DLC it gets, as the main game is not restricted like SWTOR is. Also they need to start subbers needing to use the CM less, as the CM should only be used for people playing the game for free, and expansions should have the option to buy with CC.

  FromHell

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3/26/13 7:13:09 AM#30
Originally posted by Jorendo
 

2. Fully voiced did add a lot. Haters will say it didn't but they either didn't play the game or are those who never bothered with stories and just skip. But i think every MMO should have fully voiced dialouges cause it really helps in keeping it interesting.

 I think it´s funny how people have the misconception of SWTOR being "fully voiced".

Yeah, they have fully voiced cutscenes. So does every other triple-A MMO which came out after 2011, TSW, Gw2 and upcoming ESO. Even AoC has many, many voiced quests up to lvl80, not all, but that came out in 2008.

What´s not voiced in SWTOR are the damn static NPCs standing around. They did not use their magical fourth pillar out in the open world. All we have is silent NPC clones waving their hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUdZn5v5sEU

so if voiceovers are SWTORs unique selling point; where are the voiceovers in the open world?

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  Doogiehowser

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3/26/13 7:19:27 AM#31
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Jorendo
 

2. Fully voiced did add a lot. Haters will say it didn't but they either didn't play the game or are those who never bothered with stories and just skip. But i think every MMO should have fully voiced dialouges cause it really helps in keeping it interesting.

 I think it´s funny how people have the misconception of SWTOR being "fully voiced".

Yeah, they have fully voiced cutscenes. So does every other triple-A MMO which came out after 2011, TSW, Gw2 and upcoming ESO. Even AoC has many, many voiced quests up to lvl80, not all, but that came out in 2008.

What´s not voiced in SWTOR are the damn static NPCs standing around. They did not use their magical fourth pillar out in the open world. All we have is silent NPC clones waving their hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUdZn5v5sEU

so if voiceovers are SWTORs unique selling point; where are the voiceovers in the open world?

When people say full voiced over they are ofcourse talking about the way quests are given out which was something not that common before swtor. Now you can interpret the term 'full voiced over' in whatever manner you like. But that fact is that every single quest giver in SWTOR is voiced over. And like you said TSW, GW2 released after SWTOR. So the 'first' game with fully voiced NPC giving out quests still goes to SWTOR.

However, i like how you never forget to advertise TSW and AOC in almsot every reply of yours. And also use GW2 as an example when it is convenient because mostly you got nothing but very bad hate for GW2 as well as ANet.

PS both in TSW and AOC your character is a mute.

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  vadess40

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3/26/13 7:21:51 AM#32
Originally posted by akkedis86

I wonder if they have a ace up their sleave?

We'll have to see, regardless, I preordered it anyways.

 

I appreciate the authors non-biased writing.

I expect we will see the Cathar, maybe solo-ranked wz, cool gear,  28 mods, mk-7/mk-8 augments, possibly paid server transfers coming soon, maybe another implementation of open world pvp(PVP announcements have really slowed down), why'd he say third faction like that "Taboro have revealed themselves as a third faction vying for control of the galaxy" ?

 

Huh? :0

 

 

Clearly you haven't played the on the PTS yet. We are getting level 30-33 gear, and mk-9 augments. The Hutts are a faction in the galaxy, like the Republic and Empire, but it's a NPC one. Think of them like the Black Sun pirates in Empire at War. 

  Elikal

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3/26/13 7:22:39 AM#33
What the heck is a Krogan doing in that screenshot??

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Souldrainer

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3/26/13 7:23:30 AM#34
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Jorendo
 

2. Fully voiced did add a lot. Haters will say it didn't but they either didn't play the game or are those who never bothered with stories and just skip. But i think every MMO should have fully voiced dialouges cause it really helps in keeping it interesting.

 I think it´s funny how people have the misconception of SWTOR being "fully voiced".

Yeah, they have fully voiced cutscenes. So does every other triple-A MMO which came out after 2011, TSW, Gw2 and upcoming ESO. Even AoC has many, many voiced quests up to lvl80, not all, but that came out in 2008.

What´s not voiced in SWTOR are the damn static NPCs standing around. They did not use their magical fourth pillar out in the open world. All we have is silent NPC clones waving their hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUdZn5v5sEU

so if voiceovers are SWTORs unique selling point; where are the voiceovers in the open world?

You mean, MMOs that came out after SWTOR copied SWTOR's techniques?  Hmm... and BTW, SWTOR still has a lot more voice acting than those games, and your main character is voiced, and you have multiple branching voice dialogues.  Downplay it all you want.  It set a precedent.

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  Souldrainer

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3/26/13 7:27:42 AM#35
Originally posted by Elikal
What the heck is a Krogan doing in that screenshot??
 

That's what I said.

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  Elikal

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3/26/13 7:33:53 AM#36
Originally posted by Souldrainer
Originally posted by Elikal
What the heck is a Krogan doing in that screenshot??
 

That's what I said.

Weird eh? Maybe we find Commander Shepard under a rock. XD

 

Speaking of which: As SImCity disaster compensation I had gotten a free Mass Effect 3 copy, which I just finished. And while I really loved it, mostly, it also felt like I had played the same story and seen the same characters and heard the same lines before. SOMEHOW all these Bioware games, KOTOR, DA, ME, SWTOR... they all feel so... alike. Like, seen one, seen all. Ok, that's a bit over the top, but... I had this deja vu feeling in ME3.

So that's why I am not surprised to see a Krogan in SWTOR.

 

Sidenote to sidenote: I hope Shepard returns in ME4. Tho I am tired hearing the name, lol. Why was EVERYONE constantly addressing me with my name in that damn game? Nobody does that in RL!

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  vadess40

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3/26/13 7:39:09 AM#37
Originally posted by Jorendo
Originally posted by daltanious

Along with wow, swtor is my no1 game. Worst problem swtor had since start was not at all swtor itself ... but haters that have spread around even faster then those of wow. They have been bashing game over and over again in all possible forums. Majority never actually I guess played it.

But is truth i know many that do not like at all story telling, they would if possible just jump to end game, etc. Never ever all players will be happy with same game. This is mission impossible.

I love every bit of swtor, immersion, combat, story telling ... and particularly I lOVE VOICED ACTING. Ful voiced acting in all quests (great, but unfort only in starting area, were also of Aoc).

I still play and enjoy SWToR everyday since launch. Now i don't care much for endgame as im a RPer and get my fun out of roleplaying with others. So for me the setting is more important then the actual content when lvl 50. I had a blast playing trough the class quests and i enjoy that all quests are spoken dialouge. Haters been bashing the game rather unfairly in the early days. But it's nothing new, with every new MMORPG you got haters trying to destroy a game cause they favor another game. SWToR had the bad luck of being caught between two giant hater groups, the GW2 fanboys and the WoW fanboys who both attacked SWToR. GW2 fanboy's shouting that GW2 was gonna be a lot better and WoW Faboys shouting SWToR didn't do anything new.

 

SWToR might not be the best MMORPG for most people but it did some things right:

1. It wasn't another generic fantasy setting like almost every other freaking MMO out there.

2. Fully voiced did add a lot. Haters will say it didn't but they either didn't play the game or are those who never bothered with stories and just skip. But i think every MMO should have fully voiced dialouges cause it really helps in keeping it interesting.

3. You got to own your own little place, in SWToR its a ship. They should have given you options to customize it from the inside and do more with it (and once they had those plans until it became F2P). But still you got your own little place that is yours. GW2 has it with the districts.

 

For me SWToR is the first MMORPG that caught my attention for longer then a few months after release since WoW. I played WoW till shortly after Cata came out. I just couldn't settle into other MMO's and i tried. I tried to like AoC but the bugs eventually killed it for me, i wanted to like Warhammer but with no one around anymore and me being in the lower tiers meant no fun pvp so it killed it for me, Aion great on promise with flying was just a gimick bullcrap that was very limited, kiilled it for me. SWToR i been playing since the start as still love it.

 

However i do think Bioware/EA should do more with it and listen to the fans. They promised a huge space expansion that would be patched into the game shortly after release....we never saw it happen. They promised same sex relationships would be patched after release, they canned it just to make it a thing you can do on one planet only (i don't care what people think about same sex relationships, it was a feature that was suppose to be in the game and they just scratched it out just to make a basic version later again that you have to pay for), they promised seats to sit on, more then the three chairs in your space ship. But for some reason they never implanted it in the game. Why can't we sit on chairs i mean wtf? Oh and please don't give me the BS "Who gives a F about chairs to sit on, we want more endgame!" raiders aren't the only type of players okay, there are also RPers and frankly the european RP server has been highly poplulated since day one so one should also please them next to the end gamers and pvpers. Many things that where promised to be added over time never made it and they should do so. More races, more freedom in exploration.

 

What i don't get is that SWToR haters still come to SWToR topics and spill their guts out about how terrible the expension is gonna be. Why would you care? You don't play the game. You never did or only the first month but WoW or GW2 was more appealing (and that is your good right im not saying its wrong). Just return to your own game don't bother us. Let everyone enjoy their own game, no need to whine and cry about a game you don't play. SWtoR is a enjoyable game, it didn't do much to change the MMORPG scene, but so what, not one of the current MMORPG's has done that. Not even GW2, it only did something that do it a little different. But it are mostly things that where normal in MMORPG's before WoW.

 

I agree with everything in your post. As for why SWTOR haters keep coming back for the sake of coming back to spill their guts about a game they don't play... Why can't I have all of their freetime?  

  Vlacke

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3/26/13 7:48:35 AM#38
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Jorendo
 

2. Fully voiced did add a lot. Haters will say it didn't but they either didn't play the game or are those who never bothered with stories and just skip. But i think every MMO should have fully voiced dialouges cause it really helps in keeping it interesting.

 I think it´s funny how people have the misconception of SWTOR being "fully voiced".

Yeah, they have fully voiced cutscenes. So does every other triple-A MMO which came out after 2011, TSW, Gw2 and upcoming ESO. Even AoC has many, many voiced quests up to lvl80, not all, but that came out in 2008.

What´s not voiced in SWTOR are the damn static NPCs standing around. They did not use their magical fourth pillar out in the open world. All we have is silent NPC clones waving their hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUdZn5v5sEU

so if voiceovers are SWTORs unique selling point; where are the voiceovers in the open world?

What's funny is how you choose to bash SWTOR everywhere you show up, it's like you are obsessed.

The fact of the matter is that none of the games you mentioned has the quality of SWTOR's voiceovers and story overall, not by a longshot.

As for the  expansion, it's great news, more quality content is always a good thing and i'm looking forward to it.

 

  Tsumoro

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3/26/13 7:52:20 AM#39
Originally posted by Karteli

It's just more of the same, with a different background scenery.

 

For how this Special Announcement was played up at DarthHater, TorWars, Duffy, and other sites, this news is nothing short of a complete letdown.

 

TORWars said the news was so good that "You'll explode!" .. leading to speculation about engine revamps, open world PVP done right, freeroam space flight .. expansive planets ... immersive features ...

 

But instead the secret message decoded to: "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!"

I got to be fair to DarthHater on this one, as he had hoped to go more into depth with it but the NDA he was under prevented him going into more detail at the time he said he would. If I remember he said something like "Check back tomorrow for some news you don't want to miss" which I believe he meant to give the low-down on the content he had been beta testing, but was not able to do so until NDA lifted. I actually not checked out the new 'news' on his site, but I would honestly say if you were expecting the second coming with this content, you were always being set up for disapointment. 

Although SWTOR is not something I play any more, I do like to keep up to date with the news and the thing is, for a subscriber new content is coming out in a reasonable manner and it does appear to be good. But is it too little too late? Or is it something that if you left it a year and came back to it that you would have a much more full-filling experience? 

I honestly don't know. 

  Doogiehowser

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3/26/13 7:54:27 AM#40
Originally posted by Vlacke
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Jorendo
 

2. Fully voiced did add a lot. Haters will say it didn't but they either didn't play the game or are those who never bothered with stories and just skip. But i think every MMO should have fully voiced dialouges cause it really helps in keeping it interesting.

 I think it´s funny how people have the misconception of SWTOR being "fully voiced".

Yeah, they have fully voiced cutscenes. So does every other triple-A MMO which came out after 2011, TSW, Gw2 and upcoming ESO. Even AoC has many, many voiced quests up to lvl80, not all, but that came out in 2008.

What´s not voiced in SWTOR are the damn static NPCs standing around. They did not use their magical fourth pillar out in the open world. All we have is silent NPC clones waving their hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUdZn5v5sEU

so if voiceovers are SWTORs unique selling point; where are the voiceovers in the open world?

What's funny is how you choose to bash SWTOR everywhere you show up, it's like you are obsessed.

The fact of the matter is that none of the games you mentioned has the quality of SWTOR's voiceovers and story overall, not by a longshot.

As for the  expansion, it's great news, more quality content is always a good thing and i'm looking forward to it.

 

Dare say something bad about AOC and TSW and he will rip you a  new one. Go ahead give it  a try.

The roles of hater and fanboy keep changing depending upon what game you like and hate and in between  all this people forget the irony and hypocricy of their actions.

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