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  SBFord

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OP  3/24/13 8:49:37 PM#1

Star Wars: The Old Republic is getting its first digital expansion with the imminent release of Rise of the Hutt Cartel. We were on hand to check out RotHC at Bioware: Austin and have a great preview to share. See what we discovered and let us know what you think in the comments.

When BioWare and EA first launched Star Wars:The Old Republic, it was an ambitious if not slightly misguided foray into the world of MMORPGs. There had been a lot of hype leading up to its release and the initial consumer response was a bit, shall we say, tepid. It had delivered on all its promises in the eyes of most reviewers, but didn’t really pop with the general public right off the bat. So BioWare did something that anyone in their position would do if they’re smart, they asked the people what they wanted and changed their pay structure to be more enticing to casual players. But the changes didn’t stop there: the team has committed to updates every 8 weeks and has not stopped listening to players about what they like and don’t like. And next month’s April 14th upgrade looks to be the most ambitious one yet with a ton of new content and the brand new Rise of the Hutt Cartel DLC.

Read more of Blake Morse's Star Wars: The Old Republic - The Hutt Cartel is Rising.

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  Tierless

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3/25/13 11:15:41 AM#2
Still none of the stuff we asked for in Beta 1...some people never learn to listen.

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  winter

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3/25/13 11:21:32 AM#3

WoW where does the guy that wrote this article come up with this stuff??!!

Seriously you think Bioware asked its players what they wanted in SW:TOR and they said we want F2P? I've seen alot of request from players for more story content which Bioware did not release during its first full year. I've seen requests for free roaming space or a secret space project which of course Bioware is totally ignoring in favor of what F2P with Biowares now trade mark paid DLC. of course most of that now paid for DLC was originally planned for free release last year. thats EA/ware for you if they can't nickle and dime you for release day DLC then they'll just hold the content till later when they can charge for it.

 
  Karteli

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3/25/13 11:21:37 AM#4

It's just more of the same, with a different background scenery.

 

For how this Special Announcement was played up at DarthHater, TorWars, Duffy, and other sites, this news is nothing short of a complete letdown.

 

TORWars said the news was so good that "You'll explode!" .. leading to speculation about engine revamps, open world PVP done right, freeroam space flight .. expansive planets ... immersive features ...

 

But instead the secret message decoded to: "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!"

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  dimasok

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3/25/13 11:24:44 AM#5
Originally posted by Karteli

It's just more of the same, with a different background scenery.

 

For how this Special Announcement was played up at DarthHater, TorWars, Duffy, and other sites, this news is nothing short of a complete letdown.

 

TORWars said the news was so good that "You'll explode!" .. leading to speculation about engine revamps, open world PVP done right, freeroam space flight .. expansive planets ... immersive features ...

 

But instead the secret message decoded to: "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!"

The problem is that developers think SMALL whereas the community thinks LARGE. Its the sort of gap which will never be bridged and hence the constant stream of disappointment.

 
  Madatan

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3/25/13 11:38:19 AM#6
"Here are bits and pieces from our new quests" - What an announcement, totally blew my mind...
  FromHell

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3/25/13 12:04:55 PM#7
Originally posted by Xobdnas
Still none of the stuff we asked for in Beta 1...some people never learn to listen.

Surprised? Perhaps that´s why the suggestion box on their site has been called "cemetary of shattered hopes".

 

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  akkedis86

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3/25/13 12:38:51 PM#8

I wonder if they have a ace up their sleave?

We'll have to see, regardless, I preordered it anyways.

 

I appreciate the authors non-biased writing.

I expect we will see the Cathar, maybe solo-ranked wz, cool gear,  28 mods, mk-7/mk-8 augments, possibly paid server transfers coming soon, maybe another implementation of open world pvp(PVP announcements have really slowed down), why'd he say third faction like that "Taboro have revealed themselves as a third faction vying for control of the galaxy" ?

 

Huh? :0

 

  hikaru77

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3/25/13 12:57:14 PM#9
Looks like the hate towards swtor is still strong here.  Everyone did know that the big announcement will be about maked and the release date, also the DNA is still running till tomorrow 9am when we will know more details about makeb.  Darthhater.com also have a new video.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pCcVeNRDkyE   
  Illyssia

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3/25/13 1:05:50 PM#10
I just wonder if Bioware/EA shouldn't use this as a learning curve and go for the Mass Effect MMO. That would be really cool. Especially if they went next gen Xbox/playstation and PC for it. Problem with SWTOR is they designed it as a single player mmorpg that had a small end game. After 6-9 months all the cool kids quit just leaving a game that went F2P and hardcore cash shop.
  hikaru77

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3/25/13 1:11:09 PM#11
Originally posted by Illyssia
I just wonder if Bioware/EA shouldn't use this as a learning curve and go for the Mass Effect MMO. That would be really cool. Especially if they went next gen Xbox/playstation and PC for it. Problem with SWTOR is they designed it as a single player mmorpg that had a small end game. After 6-9 months all the cool kids quit just leaving a game that went F2P and hardcore cash shop.

You certainly are not playing the game. 

  danwest58

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3/25/13 1:24:01 PM#12
I went back to SWTOR because of the end game is more casual than other games that have raiding.  My group of friends can easily create an 8 man operation team and get to see content in an hour or 2.  Since we all have lives outside of the game we can play when we have time and take care of our famlies the rest of the time.  No need to run dailies everyday for several hours.  Yes the game still feels like a single player game for the most part however thats where the MMO genera has been going. 
  Illyssia

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3/25/13 1:26:00 PM#13
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Illyssia
I just wonder if Bioware/EA shouldn't use this as a learning curve and go for the Mass Effect MMO. That would be really cool. Especially if they went next gen Xbox/playstation and PC for it. Problem with SWTOR is they designed it as a single player mmorpg that had a small end game. After 6-9 months all the cool kids quit just leaving a game that went F2P and hardcore cash shop.

You certainly are not playing the game. 

Not really tempted to go again as I think the new planet maybe a little more content and not enough for myself to dip my toes into again.If you were playing the game in the F2P model then it might well work I guess.

  n3v3rriv3r

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3/25/13 1:37:23 PM#14

Hmm I really dont think you have an objective view of how this game was accepted by general public neither how well or not the devs handled the game after its release.

Please try to write about things that you can objectively describe and avoid generalizatons: eg. You may be pleased how they implemented f2p model but many are not.

 
  hikaru77

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3/25/13 2:05:52 PM#15
Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Hmm I really dont think you have an objective view of how this game was accepted by general public neither how well or not the devs handled the game after its release.

Please try to write about things that you can objectively describe and avoid generalizatons: eg. You may be pleased how they implemented f2p model but many are not.

 

Swtor is not F2P, it never was. Is a P2P MMO with a F2P trial or option, it never was free and it wont be anytime soon. 

  Cypruska

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3/25/13 4:09:14 PM#16
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  Ryowulf

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3/25/13 4:17:07 PM#17

I have to disagree with the author on a few points.

1. " initial consumer response was a bit, shall we say, tepid"  It sold a lot of boxes, but word of mouth slowed and then killed sales. 

2. "BioWare did something that anyone in their position would do if they’re smart,"  No EAware has not done anything smart.  They didn't listen to their player base. They saw they no longer had the subs to support the game and needed to try something else to make back a little of the money invested. 

Tor is not ftp, you can't lvl to cap right?  Its a trial that is made to get players to pay.  Unless they only want to do the personal story then at least EA can show high log-in numbers to stockholders.

When Tor is ftp the way Tera is then you can tell me they did right by their players.  Until then all I see is a company trying to make money in the sort term because they don't have any long term plans for the game (unless you count selling/shutting it down).

 

I get that you like the game, but you can't just turn a blind eye to its faults.

  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

3/25/13 4:21:08 PM#18
Originally posted by Karteli

It's just more of the same, with a different background scenery.

 

For how this Special Announcement was played up at DarthHater, TorWars, Duffy, and other sites, this news is nothing short of a complete letdown.

 

TORWars said the news was so good that "You'll explode!" .. leading to speculation about engine revamps, open world PVP done right, freeroam space flight .. expansive planets ... immersive features ...

 

But instead the secret message decoded to: "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!"

LOL you can only blame TORWars for the overhype... obviously it was them who wanted attention....

 

I am very happy to get to my merathon SWTOR playing on April 9th... 10 characters level 50 to level... it's going to take me some time... maybe 11 if I will work hard on my Sniper LOL

 

PS. Time to request some time off work /grin


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  Ryukan

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3/25/13 4:34:19 PM#19
SWTOR's F2P has alwyas struck me as more Free 2 Pay then Free 2 Play.
  Thelric

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3/25/13 5:05:56 PM#20
I was one of those players that stopped playing after finishing the class story quests and doing the instances at least once. It's nothing personal and I enjoyed the game. It has an excellent way to deliver story content, which I enjoyed. I'll definitely be tring out the new expansion but will leave soon after to try out other new mmo's.  That is, unless they can keep bringing out new story content since I am not one to wait around grinding content until something meaningful is made available.
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